Election 2020 Election 2020: It's (almost) over! (maybe...possibly...ahh who are we kidding, it's 2020!)

[Terthna]

They always have because of Snowden... He hurt all agencies. CIA had always had a bad rep though

All Snowden did was air their dirty laundry; don't blame the messenger, blame the agencies who have been acting against the interests of the American people for decades, if not since their inception.

 

[Duke Nukem]

Soros got mentioned in the hearing a few minutes ago.

 

[Duke Nukem]

 

[Zachowon]

I have no more sympathy for this argument than the Soviets + W. Allies had for the Nazis. That pyramid of blamelessness is exactly what gets the VA double secret no treatment lists, the FBI and all the rest of law enforcement 'missing' Nicholas Cruz until he shoots up a school and on and on.

Because no government bureaucrat is powerless, and especially not in the US government... and if they are WTF are the taxpayers wasting on their salary for a Hunter Biden job!?

Back when Snowden leaked I considered him a traitor on the level of Ames / Hanssen, if you want to know my feelings look them up on SB.com. But now I hope Trump pardons Snowden because the US government has shown their utter corruption. Lerner, McCabe, Brennan, Sztrok and Page and so many others should be in fucking jail for their betrayal of any and all trust put in them and yet they're not.


Things are gonna suck for the next few years to be true, but the COVID depression is coming since there's no way McConnell can firewall DC off enough to prevent the dumbshit economy murdering regulations Biden and the Commiecrats in DC are gonna be starting back up and exposing that no, Hollyweird is no longer worth all that money when they aren't making movies. That no, Big Education is no longer worth all that money teaching that math is racist. That no, cities aren't worth all that money when they are burned down, paralyzed and have no commerce going on in them. That no, big sports isn't worth all that money when their stadiums are empty and 30-40-70%+ of their tv audience doesn't care about the result of the game because the players are doing the equivalent of spitting in their faces. The only thing that might've forestalled or otherwise softened the impact would've been a continuation of Trump's Laisses Faire policies...

The problem the Left has is their leadership are one of either old, decrepit nihilists like Soros who don't inspire any loyalty, actual unrepentant screeching whores like Harris, Commiecrats who aren't trusted or inspire loyalty, and Satanists / State Atheists who have to lie about their true beliefs the entire time because most average citizens consider actual Satanism / State Atheism to be capital E morally EVIL.

They tear down all monuments and teach people that America is an evil, racist nation... but there are more than enough on the right to prevent them from putting up their own monuments on those empty plinths... and who are their heroes? I can't name a single goddamn one since it's not like St. George Floyd stood for anything other than 'Don't kneel on people's necks' and going on down.

Snowden is and will always be a traitor in the eyes of those in the IC. Both those that are for and against Trump for instance

All Snowden did was air their dirty laundry; don't blame the messenger, blame the agencies who have been acting against the interests of the American people for decades, if not since their inception.

Yeah yeah yeah. There is more to what he did then just air dirty laundry....

ANyway you ALL know my feelings on him.

As for the thread.

he is. He has lost respect of the people of his state

 

[Duke Nukem]

The Arizona hearing finally ended, i think it was great like the PA one was.

 

[Zachowon]

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How so?

 

[Zachowon]

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And I am pretty sure they know this and have a plan.

Question, what happens if Trump wins and everything you said is wrong or false proves to be true?

 

[CarlManvers2019]

I'm really worried, I don't think we can save America at this rate. The media has most of the people i know convinced Biden won legitimately and I'm scared what that means for my country and my children.

They even have my family indoctrinated here in the Philippines, just tried talking to my dad about how the very same people going on about lockdowns(The Left)are the very same so casually flaunting it and COVID wasn't so deadly

He got pissed and kept insisting it was the deadliest disease ever and got even more pissed when I said "Fuck CNN" and insisted I was listening to "poison"

My mother believes Biden's a devote Catholic, in-part because that's probably what she saw on the news and what she probably didn't see and odds are the media won't repeat is the stuff with him quoting "The Pomas"

My country is following the USA's lead in draconian lockdowns or insisting on keeping them on....I think our already poor population will become even poorer

Hell, my dad definitely believes any and all talk of fraud are false, he was watching CNN this morning

This isn't just an American fight, this is a fight that will determine the fates of the hearts and minds of the worlds population, my country included. If you lose it will be given to big-brained intellectuals, celebrities, politicians and corporations who are gonna use some dumb flowery presentations about some brighter future that's Star Trek's Federation or some shit.

I just hope things get better or people can still fight against this spread.

 

[Floridaman]

technically the legislature can order a special session. So the end of the normal one doesn’t really mean anything.

 

[The Truth]

The blind bootlickers need to shut up and get over themselves. Their chosen idiot, and not amount of crying will change that fact. Biden has won, and that is permeant part of reality. The real kind of reality, not the fake one that orange idiot lives in. He's stuck in the false false reality constructed for him by his ignorant followers and multitude of shadow masters that he serves.

The Elites have lost, while Biden has won. He won because he is a real man who fights for the rights of every person who resides in this country and even the world.

 

[Duke Nukem]

The blind bootlickers need to shut up and get over themselves. Their chosen idiot, and not amount of crying will change that fact. Biden has won, and that is permeant part of reality. The real kind of reality, not the fake one that orange idiot lives in. He's stuck in the false false reality constructed for him by his ignorant followers and multitude of shadow masters that he serves.

The Elites have lost, while Biden has won. He won because he is a real man who fights for the rights of every person who resides in this country and even the world.

Look who came from under his bridge everyone.

 

[Terthna]

Snowden is and will always be a traitor in the eyes of those in the IC. Both those that are for and against Trump for instance

And in my eyes, the entire Intelligence Community are enemies of the American people. I know many of you have good intentions, and some of you do actually help; but at this point, you're all a cancer we must cut out, and if I had my way? You'd all be looking for new jobs tomorrow; either that, or, for the actively malignant, tossed into to deepest, darkest hole we can find to live out the rest of their miserable existence.

 

[Bacle]

And in my eyes, the entire Intelligence Community are enemies of the American people. I know many of you have good intentions, and some of you do actually help; but at this point, you're all a cancer we must cut out, and if I had my way? You'd all be looking for new jobs tomorrow; either that, or, for the actively malignant, tossed into to deepest, darkest hole we can find to live out the rest of their miserable existence.

Uh dude, you do realize IC has always existed for nation states?

Like, there needs to be a thorough top-down revamping of several agencies, and possibly merging some, but they are not all bad and they preform very vital functions.

I understand you're feelings about Snowden, and I understand why he is not liked by the IC community. I personally think he and his motives may not be as pure as we think for what he did, and he did cost people their lives from what I've heard.

 

[Duke Nukem]

 

[The Original Sixth]

The Elites have lost, while Biden has won. He won because he is a real man who fights for the rights of every person who resides in this country and even the world.

Anyone dumb enough to believe this, regardless of political allegiance, should take a short walk of a high cliff.

 

[Terthna]

Uh dude, you do realize IC has always existed for nation states?

Like, there needs to be a thorough top-down revamping of several agencies, and possibly merging some, but they are not all bad and they preform very vital functions.

I understand you're feelings about Snowden, and I understand why he is not liked by the IC community. I personally think he and his motives may not be as pure as we think for what he did, and he did cost people their lives from what I've heard.

First of all, nobody has ever substantiated that anyone actually lost their life due to the information Snowden leaked; in fact, I believe a court determined that assertion, among many others from the Intelligence Community criticizing his actions, to be fraudulent. Secondly, I will agree that something needs to replace our Intelligence Community after they're all removed; but it must be built from the ground up, after everything has been dismantled all the way down to the bedrock. Otherwise, the same corruption, the same cancer, will just grow right back within a few years tops.

Bare minimum, we need to fire everyone, and replace them all with people completely unconnected to the old organizational structure. Perhaps after a few years, once everything settles down, they might be able to look into everyone who was fired and see if any of them are salvageable; but the vetting process for that ought to be strict and exhaustive, excluding everyone who either contributed to, enabled, or merely accepted without complaint, the corruption of our current agencies.

Is what I'm suggesting drastic? Most assuredly; but that's what happens when you don't catch cancer and treat it at stage one. And at this point? There's a decent argument to be made that it's already reached stage four, and has become terminal for our republic; assuming they succeed in subverting our election process entirely, and in so doing help the Democrats put their candidate into the White House.

 

[Wargamer08]

First of all, nobody has ever substantiated that anyone actually lost their life due to the information Snowden leaked; in fact, I believe a court determined that assertion, among many others from the Intelligence Community criticizing his actions, to be fraudulent. Secondly, I will agree that something needs to replace our Intelligence Community after they're all removed; but it must be built from the ground up, after everything has been dismantled all the way down to the bedrock. Otherwise, the same corruption, the same cancer, will just grow right back within a few years tops.

Bare minimum, we need to fire everyone, and replace them all with people completely unconnected to the old organizational structure. Perhaps after a few years, once everything settles down, they might be able to look into everyone who was fired and see if any of them are salvageable; but the vetting process for that ought to be strict and exhaustive, excluding everyone who either contributed to, enabled, or merely accepted without complaint, the corruption of our current agencies.

Is what I'm suggesting drastic? Most assuredly; but that's what happens when you don't catch cancer and treat it at stage one. And at this point? There's a decent argument to be made that it's already reached stage four, and has become terminal for our republic; assuming they succeed in subverting our election process entirely, and in so doing help the Democrats put their candidate into the White House.

Very much not the place for this.

 

[ShieldWife]

Nick Fuentes is telling his followers to turn on the GOP completely and utterly even if it costs the GOP the Senate cause of Georgia.



Will this succeed? Who knows. But very well that any votes that would normally going to GOP cannot be counted on anymore if possible. So those who said the GOP won the important shit may well be prove wrong.

GOP delenda est, basically.

When I first started seeing Nick Fuentes catching headlines I had the following reaction:



I mean, we have this guy who is only like 20 years old who came out of nowhere and is supposedly at the head of an important movement within the Alt-Right (or whatever) and he and his guys are showing at up a Don Jr. event being disruptive even as Don Jr. was trying to walk the line between sympathetically addressing their concerns and trying not to scare the normies. It just smelled a bit fishy to me.

Don‘t get me wrong, I think that we really need the so called “far right” to put pressure on the GOP and other supposedly conservative institutions in order to keep them from just becoming tools of the left, as they have a tendency to become - but Trump and the movement associated with him was already working on that and the the Groyper thing just seemed to be causing needless conflict within the right.

I’ll have to watch the video, I might change my mind, but if Nick Fuentes is telling people to leave the GOP for not being far right enough (if we can call it that) then it makes me even more suspicious of him. Maybe if he were talking about the GOP who nominated John McCain or Mitt Romney I could see a point there, but Trump’s GOP is genuinely improving, it’s a bad time to call on more far right elements to leave the GOP when they actually have a greater chance of influencing it than any time in decades.

People on the far right, Alt-Right, nationalists, populists, paleo-cons, or whatever we want to call this assortment of dissident rightists would be better served by trying to ride the Trump wave while winning converts as they can, rather than causing trouble for the closest thing they have to allies.

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Okay, I watched the video and Fuentes does make some good points, but my fundamental opinion remains - leaving the GOP is a bad strategy. Of course, the Republican Party sucks, most of us have known that for a while now, and it’s still full of never-Trumpers, RINOs, neocons, and other DC elites who are essentially enemies of the Republican base. The solution, though, isn’t to turn America over to the Democrats, but rather to work to primary out those rotten apples in the GOP and to simply change the country and culture in grass root ways that don’t directly involve national politics.

 

[LifeisTiresome]

his is incredibly dumb. The real issue is that the GOP is terrible at messaging and coming up with solid alternatives. It’s fair to blame them for sucking at dealing with people while having plenty of good ideas.

Also remember that, like them or hate them, people like The Squad did win elections as well. Much as we might find their views stupid, they have a right to be heard. The problem is everyone is focused on ideological purity or whatnot, and that’s a fatal mistake.

If the GOP was useless, we’d be watching Hillary Clinton win a second term while a liberal Supreme Court was busy shitting all over the Constitution. Is it perfect, hell no. But to say it’s useless or a bunch of Vichy collaborators is bullshit.

Take it up with the Groypers as they are the one saying don't vote GOP as a group. Personally, I wouldn't vote for the GOP either. Useless controlled opposition but thats just me.

Your post reeks of centrism which means submit to the left a bit more.

 

[LifeisTiresome]

When I first started seeing Nick Fuentes catching headlines I had the following reaction:



I mean, we have this guy who is only like 20 years old who came out of nowhere and is supposedly at the head of an important movement within the Alt-Right (or whatever) and he and his guys are showing at up a Don Jr. event being disruptive even as Don Jr. was trying to walk the line between sympathetically addressing their concerns and trying not to scare the normies. It just smelled a bit fishy to me.

Don‘t get me wrong, I think that we really need the so called “far right” to put pressure on the GOP and other supposedly conservative institutions in order to keep them from just becoming tools of the left, as they have a tendency to become - but Trump and the movement associated with him was already working on that and the the Groyper thing just seemed to be causing needless conflict within the right.

I’ll have to watch the video, I might change my mind, but if Nick Fuentes is telling people to leave the GOP for not being far right enough (if we can call it that) then it makes me even more suspicious of him. Maybe if he were talking about the GOP who nominated John McCain or Mitt Romney I could see a point there, but Trump’s GOP is genuinely improving, it’s a bad time to call on more far right elements to leave the GOP when they actually have a greater chance of influencing it than any time in decades.

People on the far right, Alt-Right, nationalists, populists, paleo-cons, or whatever we want to call this assortment of dissident rightists would be better served by trying to ride the Trump wave while winning converts as they can, rather than causing trouble for the closest thing they have to allies.

Well Fuentes in the video is ranting that the GOP don't want to support Trump and just want to return to the old status quo of being useless hence why should they support the GOP. They don't stand up for Trump nor support him which means that they don't cater to the people who are of the right but still demand their votes.

Really, I just posted the video cause people were saying that we have victory cause muh senate and all and that their is sentiment by some who would normally support the GOP but now want them to burn and thus could turn on them.

Anyway, my last post about this.