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DarthOne

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I can take some internet abuse, but there's a difference between flipping off the occasional moron and wading neck deep in shit. If 50% of the posts I see is racial and personal crap, why should I "grow a thicker skin" instead of just going away, since I'm clearly not wanted and since being there is clearly not enjoyable to me?
Because unless people are willing to push the site toward more moderate views, everyone will just stick to the options they have now rather than go elsewhere and nothing will change.
 

GoldRanger

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Because unless people are willing to push the site toward more moderate views, everyone will just stick to the options they have now rather than go elsewhere and nothing will change.

I know it might come as a shock to you, but 99.9999999% of humans are on the internet for their personal enjoyment, not out of some sort of ideological obligation to "create change" or whatever. Sadly, I'm included among them. If I'm not enjoying myself, I'm not going to force myself coming to a place where I'm constantly verbally abused for some sort of lofty ideological goal. I simply leave. As will any normal, neurotypical human being.

With that attitude, I assume you are heavily active on SB and SV, and obviously you have a whole bunch of alts on stand by for when you get your inevitable daily permaban? I mean, if you don't do that, nothing will change.
 

LifeisTiresome

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But how could any credit go to Biden if you've in fact won?

Also, in theory, I'd be willing to form an alliance with certain rightists against corporate hegemony. In practice, I'm deeply skeptical about the idea of them not turning on us.

How amusing. Rightists would think the same way too.

And I know about your so called compromise, its give you guys everything you want or some only for you to get the rest later.

And your gotcha is pathetic. We all know how the media is. Anything positive is cause of Biden. Thats how the media is.
 

LifeisTiresome

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Its just like all this talk of healing the country and bringing unity. Liberals openly say, give the so called radical left what they want so that they calm down. I thought after WW2 we were aware that appeasement is a bad idea. But then again, it only applies to people not of the left. Left get everything they want and that brings peace and unity.

Compromise and peace and unity my ass.
 

Xilizhra

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There is no trust. There is only naive people willing to give you guys some of what you want to appease you and then give you the rest later. And then you will come back with even more demands. You guys never stop.
The current political situation is something no one is happy with. The corporate powers have bought the loyalty of the center-left by supporting social progressivism (to a degree) while we all get screwed out of better health care/environmental protections/protection from outsourcing, among other things.
 

LifeisTiresome

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The current political situation is something no one is happy with. The corporate powers have bought the loyalty of the center-left by supporting social progressivism (to a degree) while we all get screwed out of better health care/environmental protections/protection from outsourcing, among other things.
And? You are still the enemy just as much as the corporates are. Nothing the corporates push is beyond leftism. All you leftists claim you are for the common people or the workers. Its all lies.
 

LifeisTiresome

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@Xilizhra

For the environment, your side happily speak of having people die and you dare to claim that your side is the compassionate ones! Only to then scream like insane people about muh covid! Muh people dying! People may die cause of the depression caused by all the lockdowns and whatever but do you guys care? No.
 

Xilizhra

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And? You are still the enemy just as much as the corporates are. Nothing the corporates push is beyond leftism. All you leftists claim you are for the common people or the workers. Its all lies.
What exactly are they "pushing" that you're concerned about here?
 

LifeisTiresome

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What exactly are they "pushing" that you're concerned about here?
Everything that we are seeing? Even the Great Reset has all the talk about the environment and leftists say its good cause muh environment and muh free healthcare even though leftism pushes for people to be fat cause muh fatphobia which means that the very healthcare itself will be strained.

Don't try and pretend ignorance.
 

LifeisTiresome

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Leftism claims that no hierarchy but they create hierarchies among themselves and push it into society. Its all bullshit. Leftists like Xilizhra come to power? We will just get a new elite class just as always.
 

DarthOne

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I know it might come as a shock to you, but 99.9999999% of humans are on the internet for their personal enjoyment, not out of some sort of ideological obligation to "create change" or whatever. Sadly, I'm included among them. If I'm not enjoying myself, I'm not going to force myself coming to a place where I'm constantly verbally abused for some sort of lofty ideological goal. I simply leave. As will any normal, neurotypical human being.

With that attitude, I assume you are heavily active on SB and SV, and obviously you have a whole bunch of alts on stand by for when you get your inevitable daily permaban? I mean, if you don't do that, nothing will change.
Not my point. What I'm trying to say is, get enough not-racist people in one place who are willing to take a little abuse and you'll get a preference cascade.

As for your apparent back-hand attacks on me, I WAS on SB before they kicked me off with poorly-disguised BS. As for SV, I do have an account there, but rarely use it and almost never for political stuff. SV is thoroughly in the hands of the Far-left of various stripes and trying to fight there would be akin to trying to punch through a concrete wall with my bare hands. Since I'm obviously not some sort of superhero, that's not going to accomplish anything good on my end.
 

GoldRanger

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Not my point. What I'm trying to say is, get enough not-racist people in one place who are willing to take a little abuse and you'll get a preference cascade.

That's nice in theory. In practice, I'm going to need some reason to stay. It would be the site's responsibility to incentivize me.

As for your apparent back-hand attacks on me, I WAS on SB before they kicked me off with poorly-disguised BS. As for SV, I do have an account there, but rarely use it and almost never for political stuff.

Sounds hypocritical to me. Why aren't you more active on both sites? Preference cascade, buddy.

SV is thoroughly in the hands of the Far-left of various stripes and trying to fight there would be akin to trying to punch through a concrete wall with my bare hands. Since I'm obviously not some sort of superhero, that's not going to accomplish anything good on my end.

Oh, like Ruqqus in the hands of Nazis then.
 

Bacle

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But how could any credit go to Biden if you've in fact won?

Also, in theory, I'd be willing to form an alliance with certain rightists against corporate hegemony. In practice, I'm deeply skeptical about the idea of them not turning on us.
Because he understands that Biden's allies are legion, and on both sides of the aisle.

Both Dems and Reps seem like they have abused Dominion, or software like it, to fuck with elections since at least 2016, and maybe even back to the early 2000s, if what Sydney Powell is saying is true.

Thus, there are plenty of people in DC and the establishment who do not want all of that to come to light in a courtroom, particularly SCOTUS.

Back during the campaign Trump's base only thought it would be an issue of mail-in vote issues during the election, not machines switching votes or 'weighing the votes' using fractions of a vote to make Biden votes worth like 1.23 and Trump votes worth 0.77. Or that the software is owned by Venezuelan buddies of Maduro, who used it to cheat in his own elections, and that the votes were being sent overseas to be counted. Or legally allowed observers being kept from examining votes, or even being allowed in the room with a court order.

If, and I mean if, Biden somehow won legitly, then clearing up and sorting out any election fraud/voter fraud/election interference claims is in his best interest as well.

This is bigger than Trump now, this is about the trust in the interigty of our electoral system itself, and we will not have a country if we cannot trust our elections.

There is a very real chance the Swamp will enable Biden's steal, simply to protect themselves from the fallout of Trump shining a light on election fraud/irregularities in elections, some going back years it seems.

Trump is aware of this I expect, which is why he uses language like that.
 

MelancholicMechanicus

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This sort of bahaviour is what makes me so sure there is actual fraud going on. The Dems have a golden opportunity to crush Trump here by just agreeing to audit the election amd check it. If it really is all clean and propper they wouls expose Trump as a liar and discredit him for all but the most die hard supporters.

Instead they are playing hard to get and avoiding commitment. Almost like they are sure the results will not stand up to scruntiny if investogated...
 

MelancholicMechanicus

Thought Criminal


Tweet replies are cancer, but I have noticed how far the NPC programming is on the matter: they always say "debunked" and "no proof" but never elaborate. Who debunked it? How do you know there is no proof when election records that are public support the claim?

Further more is anyone else curious about how commited they are to shouting at a man they claim "already failed" on his first conference in PA? Or how they constantly say "lawsuit was thrown out" without ever citing a source?

It has gotten apparent Giuliani really gets under their skin.
 

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