Election 2020 Election 2020: It's (almost) over! (maybe...possibly...ahh who are we kidding, it's 2020!)

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Zachowon said:
I think it is just that you have been doom for so long
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Dude, literally. I’m trying to get across the fucking simple point that civil wars are weighty and fucking serious affairs. People are indeed right to consider them the last and most simple way of resolving problems, but they need to consider what they actually entail. How is something so exceedingly simple so easily misunderstood, it can’t be stupidity because no one here is that stupid, it must be willful blindness.
 
Lord Invictus said:
Jesus, “civil wars are serious and shouldn’t be talked about lightly, anyone who considers them should know what they really entail”

How’s that for edginess. Truly, the greatest minds on the internet all gathered in one place.
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You've been predicting doom for about ten days now. Are you really so surprised to find that no one wants to hear it? You rarely provide anything hopeful and instead decide that being hopeless is somehow the words of a wise and realistic man, when in fact you have provided neither to the conversation. You cannot provide hope through hopelessness and it should have been made apparent to you that this was the case after ten days of you trying down everyone's spirits.

Feel welcome to express your views and your opinions, but don't expect us to listen to your self pity and nihilism as if it were reasonable discussion.
 
Lord Invictus said:
Dude, literally. I’m trying to get across the fucking simple point that civil wars are weighty and fucking serious affairs. People are indeed right to consider them the last and most simple way of resolving problems, but they need to consider what they actually entail. How is something so exceedingly simple so easily misunderstood, it can’t be stupidity because no one here is that stupid, it must be willful blindness.
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This, Civil War is indeed the last and worse method of resolving any issues the first ACW was bloody enough but at least had state uniformity of North vs. South to make it easier, a war today would be along the Spanish Civil War/Russian Civil War models and I needn't remind people that those shattered/stunted these countries in ways that took over a lifetime to heal.
 
Fallout-Man101 said:
This, Civil War is indeed the last and worse method of resolving any issues the first ACW was bloody enough but at least had state uniformity of North vs. South to make it easier, a war today would be along the Spanish Civil War/Russian Civil War models and I needn't remind people that those shattered/stunted these countries in ways that took over a lifetime to heal.
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More likely the Yugoslavian model, with each region and group fighting on its own.
 
The Original Sixth said:
You've been predicting doom for about ten days now. Are you really so surprised to find that no one wants to hear it? You rarely provide anything hopeful and instead decide that being hopeless is somehow the words of a wise and realistic man, when in fact you have provided neither to the conversation. You cannot provide hope through hopelessness and it should have been made apparent to you that this was the case after ten days of you trying down everyone's spirits.

Feel welcome to express your views and your opinions, but don't expect us to listen to your self pity and nihilism as if it were reasonable discussion.
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What the flying fuck are you talking about? I haven’t posted “doom” or even in this thread that much. My last six or so posts, have been tacit acknowledgements Biden won the election and what that means to me.

“civil wars are awful mkay, so think a little before you express enthusiasm for them”-if that is doomering then Doomerism is a fucking meaningless term. Beyond you apparently lacking first grade reading comprehension.


Floridaman said:
More likely the Yugoslavian model, with each region and group fighting on its own.
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It would involve a mix of the Yugoslavia model, the Syria model, and the Spain/Russia models. Given the size of the country the actual contour and nature of a civil war would vary and would be dependent on the pre existing conditions and factions.
 
Lord Invictus said:
Dude, literally. I’m trying to get across the fucking simple point that civil wars are weighty and fucking serious affairs.
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And do you think no one else has given thought to the weighty costs of a civil war? Or intense political strife? Of all the politically conscious people around you, do you honestly think so highly of yourself that you presume yourself alone to have thought of this?

People are indeed right to consider them the last and most simple way of resolving problems, but they need to consider what they actually entail.
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Again, do you think no one but yourself has thought of these things?

How is something so exceedingly simple so easily misunderstood, it can’t be stupidity because no one here is that stupid, it must be willful blindness.
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You have mistaken hope for stupidity, it is not us who are willingly blind. You wish to dwell upon the "costs" of a civil war out of self pity and hopelessness, then get angry when the rest of us won't join you. You have developed a nasty habit of doing this; dragging a discussion from its proper course and focusing it on the death tolls of a civil war that has neither been called nor is on the near horizon.
 
The Original Sixth said:
You have mistaken hope of stupidity, it is not use who are willingly blind. You wish to dwell upon the "costs" of a civil war out of self pity and hopelessness, then get angry when the rest of us won't join you. You have developed a nasty habit of doing this; dragging a discussion from its proper course and focusing it on the death tolls of a civil war that has neither been called nor is on the near horizon.
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lol what? I didn’t bring up civil war in this thread. Someone else did.

I don’t particularly consider civil war in the model discussed to be realistic in the near term. But Jesus do a lot of people like talking about them with enthusiasm. “We’re gonna kill all da Libs man!”
 
The Original Sixth said:
And you have pursued the depressing subject into the grave you are no doubt marking for yourself at this moment.
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?????

I made one post, that Hastur seemed to agree with. And then apparently you and Zachowon didn’t bother to actually read and assumed Doom for whatever reason.


Floridaman said:
Not to derail this, but you guys seem to be a bit off topic.
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I’ll bow out for the evening.

Thread Tax: I don’t particularly think fraud matters, Biden will be elected and that will be that. People here have an unrealistic evaluation of Trump and the Republicans.
 
If we are stating our views. I am a libertarian, as I said I believe fraud happened, and think it has for a long time. I don’t have too much faith, but for some reason the gop seems to have found the spine that they have never had as long as I have been aware. Since in the past they would have given up immediately.
 
Lord Invictus said:
My point being...that civil wars are serious affairs. Somehow this escaped Mith for all his supposed intelligence, could not understand the basic theme of “civil wars are serious shit, we shouldn’t treat them lightly”.

No one should talk about civil war lightly, and Jesus Christ, that post was you know talking about it with the gravitas the subject deserves.
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That's why I think we are roughly 40 years away from a civil war if the democrats cheated and get caught red handed. I think it takes years even decades of bullshit before people just lose it and accept that heads are going to roll. Of course by then the cities will have bankupted themselves, the economy will be in the shitter from badly exicuted ideas and bad rulership and then the mask will come off and people will die in droves.
 
Cherico said:
That's why I think we are roughly 40 years away from a civil war if the democrats cheated and get caught red handed. I think it takes years even decades of bullshit before people just lose it and accept that heads are going to roll. Of course by then the cities will have bankupted themselves, the economy will be in the shitter from badly exicuted ideas and bad rulership and then the mask will come off and people will die in droves.
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I generally concur. We won’t see an actual civil war for at least 20 to thirty years. Depending on the conditions. But definitely not this year and not in the 2020s either.
 
Bacle said:
They don't care, they know that if Biden steals this election, they will never face any consequences.
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I honestly do not think that's the case.

The democratic establishment Is starting to slowly figure out that the progressive side of the party is bug fuck nuts, and the progressive side is starting to figure out that the establishment are essentially corrupt assholes who are only in it for the power. That's a civil war that's already starting to go off now.

Letting crazy people go after other peoples lawyers means that they might come for your lawyers some day. Letting these guys get arrested means one less person that goes after them in the future.
 
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