Election 2020 Election 2020: It's (almost) over! (maybe...possibly...ahh who are we kidding, it's 2020!)

[Duke Nukem]

 

[Archmagnus]

Ultimately the game is Trump's, his supporters can not prevent Biden's ascension, so he must either have a plan, go out a failure and defeated, or make whatever choice he deems fit.

have faith, even now we are barely able to comprehend just some of the 4D chess moves he made

 

[Deleted member 88]

Arrgghh, I'm no silly Qanonist.

The President does need to make a decisive choice, his supporters want him to fight.

 

[Es Arcanum]

He said he was should he get reelected anyway, may as well do it before then because "Fuck you for trying to imprison Flynn"

Most likely the fraud

It would seem if nothing else that Trumps fight against the Dems these past four years and the Dems ever increasing extremism has finally awoken the Republicans and they've begun finding their balls.

Check out Senator Cruz here ripping McCabe a new one today over his actions regarding General Flynn.



The Republicans need to stay behind Trumps calls for investigations until every suspect state has been gone over with a fine toothcomb. Gore didn't concede until almost mid December.

Worst case scenario the state legislatures of Pennsylvania and Wisconsin can refuse to certify the election results as is their right under the constitution.

And I hope that someone is securing the ballots in all those locations for forensic investigation.



Also Dinesh D'Souza raises something I hadn't thought of amidst all the cafuffle here. I wonder how many illegal aliens voted in this election? Putting aside them actually getting on the electoral rolls illegitimately for a moment, lets just assume they received an unsolicited mass mailout ballot to the address they're presently at and they filled it in and sent it off?

I wonder if the NSA could be used to cross-check ballot information with known and verified addresses for people who voted? Or would that raise too many constitutional issues? I wonder if they could cross-check electoral rolls with citizenship status?

 

[Archmagnus]

It would seem if nothing else that Trumps fight against the Dems these past four years and the Dems ever increasing extremism has finally awoken the Republicans and they've begun finding their balls.

Check out Senator Cruz here ripping McCabe a new one today over his actions regarding General Flynn.

Okay, I do believe the Zodiac Killer is a filthy political beast that would do anything and everything to get itself reelected, but holy shitnipples is he trying to get into the position as GEOTUS-Elect for 2024.

Godspeed you magnificent bastard.

 

[Revan]

have faith, even now we are barely able to comprehend just some of the 4D chess moves he made

Let us not imagine things. I'm ambivalent about the man. He did pretty good on the economy which was better than the last two idiots before him. But a genius I'm not so certain about. But we will see what we will see.


Then you have this shit.

 

[Floridaman]

Thought I would post a Cspan Report on a hearing about Ukraines election.

Ukrainian Elections

Witnesses testified about the election procedures in Ukraine, the prospects for a new run-off election at the end of the month, the state of Ukrainian independence, and Russian influence in the region.

www.c-span.org

Here is a document, a lot of the charges are rather interesting.

Ukraine's Election: Next Steps

2001-2009.state.gov

 

[Duke Nukem]

 

[Spartan303]

This video kinda puts some of the numbers out of Michigan in perspective.

 

[Deleted member 16]

Let us not imagine things. I'm ambivalent about the man. He did pretty good on the economy which was better than the last two idiots before him. But a genius I'm not so certain about. But we will see what we will see.


Then you have this shit.

What do you know, getting interviewed by the USPS Office of the Inspector General is stressful? Being put on emergency placement is standard in this kind of circumstances. He'll get back pay unless he's actually completely fucked up.

If he recanted as some say, Veritas is going to get this guy in a load of trouble. If the recording is his, and he didn't get permission for it, he's doubly screwed.

 

[Bacle]

This video kinda puts some of the numbers out of Michigan in perspective.

Interesting take on what is going on in Michigan.

I think MI is due for a recount as well, just like the other swing states. Some of those numbers...those sorts of swings seem pretty suspicious in their size, and location, particularly with mail-in voting being so fraud prone and the Dominion software already having 'glitches' documented in several places.

If I hadn't already effectively maxed out my donation to his campaign, I'd be donating for the legal bills this is racking up for Trump's campaign.

 

[Wargamer08]

I haven’t seen anyone bring this up, so I thought I’d share. BREAKING EXCLUSIVE: Analysis of Election Night Data from All States Shows MILLIONS OF VOTES Either Switched from President Trump to Biden or Were Lost -- Using Dominion and Other Systems
Now the article itself says it’s not been confirmed, but the raw data is also available for those of better computer skills then me. However if it’s even fractionally correct it could explain why Trump is so confident. Just reverting the electronic fraud gets him the win, letting him deal with the in person fraud at his leisure. Again, not sure how true it is, but I didn’t think every voting machine would “glitch” the same way either a couple days ago.

 

[Floridaman]

I haven’t seen anyone bring this up, so I thought I’d share. BREAKING EXCLUSIVE: Analysis of Election Night Data from All States Shows MILLIONS OF VOTES Either Switched from President Trump to Biden or Were Lost -- Using Dominion and Other Systems
Now the article itself says it’s not been confirmed, but the raw data is also available for those of better computer skills then me. However if it’s even fractionally correct it could explain why Trump is so confident. Just reverting the electronic fraud gets him the win, letting him deal with the in person fraud at his leisure. Again, not sure how true it is, but I didn’t think every voting machine would “glitch” the same way either a couple days ago.

I think only 2 counties have been confirmed thus far, so might be, might not be. As for the glitch it could be human action or incompetence. With a program if the scanner is screwed up that could do it, or they fucked up the coding.

 

[The Original Sixth]

I haven’t seen anyone bring this up, so I thought I’d share. BREAKING EXCLUSIVE: Analysis of Election Night Data from All States Shows MILLIONS OF VOTES Either Switched from President Trump to Biden or Were Lost -- Using Dominion and Other Systems
Now the article itself says it’s not been confirmed, but the raw data is also available for those of better computer skills then me. However if it’s even fractionally correct it could explain why Trump is so confident. Just reverting the electronic fraud gets him the win, letting him deal with the in person fraud at his leisure. Again, not sure how true it is, but I didn’t think every voting machine would “glitch” the same way either a couple days ago.

...Virginia is on that list.

It's unaudited, so we can't know it to be true, but that would explain the strange switch we saw in Virginia that night. Trump had a huge lead in several regions. One had even been called red and 100%, but then was switched to blue later in the evening. Wisconsin's numbers seem oddly low by the theory of electoral fraud though, it should be one to suffer higher amounts. West Virginia being on there is just odd.

If this is the case though, that's horrifying.

 

[Floridaman]

...Virginia is on that list.

It's unaudited, so we can't know it to be true, but that would explain the strange switch we saw in Virginia that night. Trump had a huge lead in several regions. One had even been called red and 100%, but then was switched to blue later in the evening. Wisconsin's numbers seem oddly low by the theory of electoral fraud though, it should be one to suffer higher amounts. West Virginia being on there is just odd.

If this is the case though, that's horrifying.

No that was probably the swamp, remember Bush expanded the federal bureaucracy significantly, little surprise they vote in favor of the side who wants money for them.

 

[Bacle]

I think only 2 counties have been confirmed thus far, so might be, might not be. As for the glitch it could be human action or incompetence. With a program if the scanner is screwed up that could do it, or they fucked up the coding.

...Virginia is on that list.

It's unaudited, so we can't know it to be true, but that would explain the strange switch we saw in Virginia that night. Trump had a huge lead in several regions. One had even been called red and 100%, but then was switched to blue later in the evening. Wisconsin's numbers seem oddly low by the theory of electoral fraud though, it should be one to suffer higher amounts. West Virginia being on there is just odd.

If this is the case though, that's horrifying.

I'd direct you both to what Tippy said about the Dominion voting system and the glitches in it:

It wasn't, that error can not be caused by "human error" in the Dominion system unless you are already in a manual data entry mode to modify votes.

How Dominion counts votes is that the tabulation machine scans them, it saves them to the system, it forwards a copy of the tally to a Dominion server which serves AP/DDHQ and the state's official page.

There is no step in the process where an individual is manually typing in vote numbers.

And the "official" and "unofficial" databases mirror each other.

To get six thousand Trump votes assigned to Biden is a software issue, period. The only way that it could be human error is if the human is in admin mode and is manually modifying the data (which should not be done at all).

The nominal human error in this case, a failure to update the system, is farcical. Vote switching should not ever be a feature that is *possible* in a well designed electronic voting system, much less in a system that has been live for years.

But then, it is a matter of official government record in both Texas and Georgia that Dominion voting systems are fundamentally insecure and trivial to manipulate. Shared SSL certs, the ability to backload from the unofficial into the official datasets, live internet connections 24/7, decimalized vote tallying, unchangeable 2fa codes that are only a single digit long, spy ware loaded onto their servers, administrator logins and passwords available on the darkweb; the list goes on.

One of the few goods things about this whole shit fest of an election is that it just might make the public aware of how spectacularly fucked up our voting system is and force actual change so it ceases to be so very fucked up.

1) She probably isn't aware of how the system functions.

2) Dominion is incredibly hard against anyone who calls out how bullshit their system is and has billions of dollars along with political connections at the highest levels (chief lobbyist used to be Pelosi's aid, Dianne Feinstein's husband owns a major interest, the CEO is close personal friends and associates with Soros, they partner with the Clinton Foundation, etc.).

3) If she calls it anything but human error then it means she is claiming that the tabulation system is flawed. That system is used in thirty states including every swing state. Anything that casts credible doubt on Dominion means at a minimum hand recounts in every battleground state.

"Oh, it was human error. I failed to download an update." is an ignorable issue. She might even sincerely think that is the case.

"We have no clue why the tabulation system switched thousands of votes from Trump to Biden" is instantly the biggest story in the world.

A failure to update causing vote switching like that is a scathing indictment of the entire system if you think about it. But with how the system functions, human error could not cause that vote switching unless she was using the admin panel to manually manipulate votes (which is an equally huge issue).

Human runs ballot through tabulator. Human clicks export and exports the official records to a USB to transport to the SecState in pure security theater. Everything else is automated in the normal course.

To get a flawed vote total showing up on the SecState webpage/AP/DDHQ that flawed vote total first has to be entered into the official tally as approved. Then it is copied over to the unofficial tally. Then that is sent off to the Dominion server for combination and repackaging to be served up to AP/DDHQ/the state page. Nowhere in that process is a human involved beyond (if the right options are checked) pressing the "export unofficial" button.

A "failure to update" flipping votes between candidates could only be the explanation if the update had flipped which candidate was in which cell of the database (i.e. Trump is '1' in the old version and '2' in the new version) and it had been unevenly applied across tabulation machines. Ignoring how utterly idiotic the system design has to be to cause that to be possible (this is Dominion so idiotic system design is assumed as standard), it doesn't answer the question of why in the world an update is doing that. The machines should be loaded with the same ballot data well before that point.

But then, Dominion showed in Georgia that they are willing to push updates literally the night before the election (and have still failed to specify just what was in that update or how widely it was deployed).

 

[Floridaman]

I'd direct you both to what Tippy said about the Dominion voting system and the glitches in it:

I said, human action as in it could be fraud, or dominion screwed up the design, I wasn’t implying user error, I am aware the system is automated.

 

[Wargamer08]

I said, human action as in it could be fraud, or dominion screwed up the design, I wasn’t implying user error, I am aware the system is automated.

I’ll let someone far more computer savvy speak for me.Let's Be Clear About That Michigan "Computer Glitch"
Basically a real glitch would give you something totally useless or crash not give votes to Biden over and over again.

 

[Floridaman]

I’ll let someone far more computer savvy speak for me.Let's Be Clear About That Michigan "Computer Glitch"
Basically a real glitch would give you something totally useless or crash not give votes to Biden over and over again.

Yes, but in common speak a glitch can also be a programming error.

 

[Wargamer08]

Yes, but in common speak a glitch can also be a programming error.

My dude an error gets you something like one trillion votes for Biden or negative a million for Trump. Something consistent, small and only one way is not an error or a mistake it’s deliberate.