Election 2020 Election 2020: It's (almost) over! (maybe...possibly...ahh who are we kidding, it's 2020!)

[Chaos Marine]

I still think President Trump won the election and will have four more years.



Even Tariq Nasheed thinks it was a con job.

 

[Terthna]

My parents have officially lost all hope; they seem to believe that trying to win through the courts is impossible, because you can't challenge the results in multiple states at the same time, because you need to be able to prove that this specific number of votes should have gone to you, and that you would have won the entire election with those votes, in that one state.

 

[Xilizhra]

The terrible thing about bioleninism is that the class of petty snitches and lumpenstasi it elevates to police and afflict the normies are the first to be discarded when the winds of power shift.

You did not even remotely use the "lumpen-" prefix properly. It literally means "rogue" and the term lumpenproletariat refers to those of the proletariat who have no class consciousness. "Lumpenstasi" would refer to Stasi operatives who don't give a shit about their work.

 

[Bacle]

Bruh Fox News called the election for Biden and gave him the largest margins for victory (290:214). Its utterly ridiculous. I'm honestly so done with the GOP as a whole. I've always leaned more conservative throughout my life, but I've always been frustrated with the GOP for its general fecklessness and incompetency. Any time they had the chance to push back on the offensive, they simply sat on their hands doing nothing. This is the case in my home state of CA where the GOP is almost a non-entity. In the gubernatorial race where the they had the chance to put a younger and fresher candidate, they put someone who was quite unappealing to the electorate.

I hope Trump is able to pull off a legal victory in the courts and then cleans house with the spineless establishment GOP stooges, never Trumper neo-cons, and the far left idiots corrupt our nation's foundations and institutions.

If Biden pulls off the steal, Trump needs to pull a Bull Moose and run under his own banner in 2024.

The establishment GOP only care about protecting themselves at the cost of their own voters, and that has never been clearer.

My parents have officially lost all hope; they seem to believe that trying to win through the courts is impossible, because you can't challenge the results in multiple states at the same time, because you need to be able to prove that this specific number of votes should have gone to you, and that you would have won the entire election with those votes, in that one state.

Tell them it is not over, not by a long shot, and that Trump has Guiliani, who took on the New York mobs, the FARC, and won.

Also remind them that conceding now will not save them when the Leftists decide to come after Trump supporters.

 

[Planchar]

Bruh Fox News called the election for Biden and gave him the largest margins for victory (290:214). Its utterly ridiculous. I'm honestly so done with the GOP as a whole. I've always leaned more conservative throughout my life, but I've always been frustrated with the GOP for its general fecklessness and incompetency. Any time they had the chance to push back on the offensive, they simply sat on their hands doing nothing. This is the case in my home state of CA where the GOP is almost a non-entity. In the gubernatorial race where the they had the chance to put a younger and fresher candidate, they put someone who was quite unappealing to the electorate.

I hope Trump is able to pull off a legal victory in the courts and then cleans house with the spineless establishment GOP stooges, never Trumper neo-cons, and the far left idiots corrupt our nation's foundations and institutions.

That’s why you need to keep supporting the party. Trump was able to purge a significant number of the spineless neo-cons and other faux conservatives. He expanded the party to be more inclusive of Latinos and African-Americans than any other Republican candidate. We have good, young candidates that have won. America as a whole rejected the leftism of the democrats.

Understand that there is a reasonably good chance that Trump lost and that there is nothing that we can do to stop that. But also realize that this is just one battle in a larger war. The left wants us to be demoralized. They want our coalition to break apart. It is our job to continue to be motivated to push for our candidates in 2022 and 2024.

If Biden pulls off the steal, Trump needs to pull a Bull Moose and run under his own banner in 2024.

The establishment GOP only care about protecting themselves at the cost of their own voters, and that has never been clearer.

That is probably the worst thing he could do. If we don’t get the response that we would like in the courts, Trump needs to play to roll of kingmaker in the Republican Party for 2024

 

[Xilizhra]

If Biden pulls off the steal, Trump needs to pull a Bull Moose and run under his own banner in 2024.

The establishment GOP only care about protecting themselves at the cost of their own voters, and that has never been clearer.

Ooh, maybe he can run as a Libertarian and it'll be the establishmentarians who rip him apart after losing 2024 like they're doing to Jorgensen now.

 

[Basileus_Komnenos]

Ooh, maybe he can run as a Libertarian

Nah the Liberterian party is the biggest joke in American politics right now. One of the reasons why I didn't like Jo Jorgenson was because of her embrace of identity politics and her general lack of a plan. She's basically a Democrat with extra steps. The Libertarian party as a whole isn't really organized and their ideological platform is quite inconsistent.

If Biden pulls off the steal, Trump needs to pull a Bull Moose and run under his own banner in 2024.

But that ended up with America getting worse off. Woodrow Wilsons won. He was the man who started what became known as "The Imperial Presidency." He also screened Birth of a Nation at White House and pushed for segregation within the government. He also fucked up Europe after WW1 with his dumb and out of touch foreign policy ideas. Just look at what became of the Balkans with the poorly mismanaged fall of Austria-Hungary.

This could end up with someone worse with some say left wing radical taking the Presidency.

 

[Terthna]

If Biden pulls off the steal, Trump needs to pull a Bull Moose and run under his own banner in 2024.

The establishment GOP only care about protecting themselves at the cost of their own voters, and that has never been clearer.
Tell them it is not over, not by a long shot, and that Trump has Guiliani, who took on the New York mobs, the FARC, and won.

Also remind them that conceding now will not save them when the Leftists decide to come after Trump supporters.

Unfortunately, they're a bit too depressed to care; thanks to, among other things, their declining health. I think they've gotten to the point where they think that death couldn't come soon enough for them. My mother is trying to distract herself by starting Christmas season early, and seems to want to set a record for decorations set up in one house. I really hope Trump can pull out a win through the courts, because on top of everything else that's happened to them this year, this is destroying them.

 

[Xilizhra]

Nah the Liberterian party is the biggest joke in American politics right now. One of the reasons why I didn't like Jo Jorgenson was because of her embrace of identity politics and her general lack of a plan. She's basically a Democrat with extra steps. The Libertarian party as a whole isn't really organized and their ideological platform is quite inconsistent.

I don't know, I rather like the Libertarians to a degree. I disagree with them about a lot, but I admire their principles.

 

[Chaos Marine]

 

[Midnighter13]

If Biden pulls off the steal, Trump needs to pull a Bull Moose and run under his own banner in 2024.

That would be great. Dividing the right leaning vote between Trump and a Republican candidate would guarantee another Democratic President in 2024. Realistically, I doubt Trump will have another election in him. He's old, tired, and frankly facing too many legal issues to run again in his eighties (assuming he stays out of prison and stays in the US). I'm sure he'll make noise about it and hold rallies (they are great fundraising opportunities for him after all) but actually run? I don't think he could take the ego hit of losing another election, as either a Republican or an independent.

 

[ShieldWife]

Interesting. So do you think the corporations are trying to bring about a communist revolution?

The corporations are certainly leftists, without a doubt. Not quite full fledged communists, though they often advance certain aspects of communism and use their power to increase communism popularity, but they don’t want to give up their power or wealth. To the contrary, the increasingly large governments and bureaucracies under their influence will only serve to empower them and disempower the workers of America and indeed the world.

Rather than Marx’s class struggle, they would plunge the world into strife with identity politics so that they could safely divert more power into their hands while the supposed revolution attacks straight Christian white men.

 

[Xilizhra]

Unfortunately, they're a bit too depressed to care; thanks to, among other things, their declining health. I think they've gotten to the point where they think that death couldn't come soon enough for them. My mother is trying to distract herself by starting Christmas season early, and seems to want to set a record for decorations set up in one house. I really hope Trump can pull out a win through the courts, because on top of everything else that's happened to them this year, this is destroying them.

I'm truly sorry. It's things like this that truly bring home the cost of con artists and their depredations. I hope they improve and find peace soon.

The corporations are certainly leftists, without a doubt. Not quite full fledged communists, though they often advance certain aspects of communism and use their power to increase communism popularity, but they don’t want to give up their power or wealth. To the contrary, the increasingly large governments and bureaucracies under their influence will only serve to empower them and disempower the workers of America and indeed the world.

Rather than Marx’s class struggle, they would plunge the world into strife with identity politics so that they could safely divert more power into their hands while the supposed revolution attacks straight Christian white men.

So how do you define "leftist" in this case?

 

[Bacle]

That is probably the worst thing he could do. If we don’t get the response that we would like in the courts, Trump needs to play to roll of kingmaker in the Republican Party for 2024

No, fuck the establishment GOP. They had the House and Senate for two years and did NOTHING with it, because they didn't want to rock the apple cart.

They have also been dragging their feet on Big Techs fuckery, did barely anything to hinder the Crossfire Hurricane bullshit, and even fucking Barr decided to try to run out the clock on the Mueller probe.

Plus, you know, the whole Biden laptop and CCP/Ukrainian pay-offs scandal.

They put on a show of supporting Trump for their voters, but mostly don't do shit to help him when it matters.

There is very likely a civil war brewing within the GOP, as well as the Dems, because of how they have dragged their feet on helping Trump.

But that ended up with America getting worse off. Woodrow Wilsons won. He was the man who started what became known as "The Imperial Presidency." He also screened Birth of a Nation at White House and pushed for segregation within the government. He also fucked up Europe after WW1 with his dumb and out of touch foreign policy ideas. Just look at what became of the Balkans with the poorly mismanaged fall of Austria-Hungary.

This could end up with someone worse with some say left wing radical taking the Presidency.

Given the other option will likely be POTUS Harris (Biden is just a Trojan Horse to get her in; he'll resign or be 25th within 2 years), and the GOP isn't likely to allow another outsider in like Trump was, not seeing how it would be worse.

Unfortunately, they're a bit too depressed to care; thanks to, among other things, their declining health. I think they've gotten to the point where they think that death couldn't come soon enough for them. My mother is trying to distract herself by starting Christmas season early, and seems to want to set a record for decorations set up in one house. I really hope Trump can pull out a win through the courts, because on top of everything else that's happened to them this year, this is destroying them.

Yeah, unfortunately, I very much get how they feel in that regard.

Just tell them to not give up all hope unless Biden is actually sworn in.

That would be great. Dividing the right leaning vote between Trump and a Republican candidate would guarantee another Democratic President in 2024. Realistically, I doubt Trump will have another election in him. He's old, tired, and frankly facing too many legal issues to run again in his eighties (assuming he stays out of prison and stays in the US). I'm sure he'll make noise about it and hold rallies (they are great fundraising opportunities for him after all) but actually run? I don't think he could take the ego hit of losing another election, as either a Republican or an independent.

The other option is POTUS Harris, or whatever GOP establishment insider they allow to run.

Trump striking out on his own may allow us to finally kill the two-party system that has been poisoning US politics for so long.

 

[LifeisTiresome]

The corporations are certainly leftists, without a doubt. Not quite full fledged communists, though they often advance certain aspects of communism and use their power to increase communism popularity, but they don’t want to give up their power or wealth. To the contrary, the increasingly large governments and bureaucracies under their influence will only serve to empower them and disempower the workers of America and indeed the world.

Rather than Marx’s class struggle, they would plunge the world into strife with identity politics so that they could safely divert more power into their hands while the supposed revolution attacks straight Christian white men.

And here is also a thing, there are leftists who care more about class struggle like @Xilizhra but they are not really against identity politics inherently. They just care more about class struggle and fear all the wokeness causes pr issues.

I'm truly sorry. It's things like this that truly bring home the cost of con artists and their depredations. I hope they improve and find peace soon.

As if you really mean this , I have seen leftists speak of how they want old people to die in agony cause they did not give the left their precious utopia.

 

[Terthna]

That would be great. Dividing the right leaning vote between Trump and a Republican candidate would guarantee another Democratic President in 2024.

I'll vote third party regardless.

 

[Xilizhra]

And here is also a thing, there are leftists who care more about class struggle like @Xilizhra but they are not really against identity politics inherently. They just care more about class struggle and fear all the wokeness causes pr issues.

Identity politics are a means to an end, and that end is equity.

As if you really mean this , I have seen leftists speak of how they want old people to die in agony cause they did not give the left their precious utopia.

Oh, sorry. I forgot how I'm a hive mind of every leftist you've encountered on the Internet, but mostly the dicks/trolls.

 

[LifeisTiresome]

Identity politics are a means to an end, and that end is equity.

Thanks for admitting the truth. I can respect that even though its full of bullshit.

Oh, sorry. I forgot how I'm a hive mind of every leftist you've encountered on the Internet, but mostly the dicks/trolls.

keep crying. You treat everyone else the same way. Not my problem if you don't like it being applied to you.

 

[Bacle]

Identity politics are a means to an end, and that end is equity.

Ah yes, 'equity', where no one has any advantage, any difference in lifestyle, any difference in outcome, no matter if they actually work for it, or get it off the back of someone else's work.

Here's a fucking newsflash for you; the only equality anyone is entitled to is equality under the law.

 

[Xilizhra]

keep crying. You treat everyone else the same way. Not my problem if you don't like it being applied to you.

What?

Ah yes, 'equity', where no one has any advantage, any difference in lifestyle, any difference in outcome, no matter if they actually work for it, or get it off the back of someone else's work.

Here's a fucking newsflash for you; the only equality anyone is entitled to is equality under the law.

Equality under the law in theory and in practice.