Election 2020 Election 2020: It's (almost) over! (maybe...possibly...ahh who are we kidding, it's 2020!)

Please. We're in the process of holding the Senate. Even if Biden wins, the Democrats can't stuff through a radical leftist CHOP agenda.

I second this and throw my own hat in. Guys, it’s been a tough fight and granted it may not be over yet. I understand the emotions involved. You know how I voted, it is what it is. But right now both liberals and conservatives have bled each other white. If Biden gets the WH? Its just barely. The Dems lost seats in Congress and couldn’t effectively take the senate.

There has been no decisive blow by either side. Somewhere along the way it’s easy to forget this is an election, not a damn war. The world moves on, until the next election. That is what part of a republic is about.

If we want to “war nerd” this, NATO and Warsaw Pact just fought each other to a standstill and bled each other white. So what happens now? Do you really want to crack out the nukes??
 
Man you guys are just as bad as SB. And no, I don't mean the staff, I mean the users.

You jump and point at any shadow and claim its true without evidence. You go on and on about random conspiracy theories if they so much as look like they go along with what you think.

I've rarely posted on this forum, especially in the politics area, because you are so similar to SB Members. The amount of "Dooooooom!" Posting is literally the same, just using different excuses and talking points.

But hey, it's fun to shitpost. So don't complain.

I don't think anyone has ever claimed The Sietch is populated by a bunch of Übermensch completely infallible to the weaknesses of human psychology? What we wanted when we abandoned SB is to discuss things in peace, without authoritarian and mostly arbitrary rulings landing out of nowhere to stifle discussion and punish people for not talking the Correct Talk. Now, I guess it was too much to ask for.
 
Calling it a state of emergency is more than a bit melodramatic, but I get the idea, a lot of you guys are freaking out way more than is warranted.

Right now, it looks like Biden has good odds to win a narrow victory, in an election where he was running against an incredibly unpopular candidate (and where, for once, a large portion of that media-generated negativity was entirely warranted), and he basically ran by avoiding taking any firm stances on any issues and letting Trump sabotage himself.

This isn't an outcome most of us wanted, but it's not the end of the world. Biden is the best the DNC could scrape together and is an objectively awful candidate, with a sycophantic media in his corner doing everything they could to hammer Trump and avoid asking Biden any tough questions....and at best he's going to pull of a narrow win against an awful candidate with a track record of mixed success and who mishandled the pandemic at several points (yes, Biden also probably would have mishandled it, albeit for different reasons, and yes the worst bits are not Trump's fault, but the President always takes the heat for failures like this, Life isn't fair).

This wasn't supposed to happen, this was supposed to be a blowout win for Biden and a through renunciation of Trump by the electorate, which is not what we're seeing. This was supposed to be a blue wave that would seize the house and senate and undo 2016 blah blah blah, which it is not. The Republicans have been making gains in the house (but are not likely to flip it), and are looking to hold the senate, and even if they lose the senate it's going to be very, very close. The democrats have no mandate to enact sweeping changes even if they do win (which is not likely), and while that won't stop some of them from trying, not every Senator is Schumer and not every Rep is Pelosi, there are enough moderates that they will have a very hard time doing anything really stupid in the vanishingly unlikely chance they have an opening, which, I reiterate, they will most likely not have.

Trump losing is a setback, but this is hardly the end of the world. The dems will not be in a position to do anything insane, and if they try they've set themselves up to fail and then get pummeled in the mid terms. They've also set themselves up for failure in 2024, Biden and Harris are awful candidates and will be awful leaders, and unlike the democrats the Republicans have a lot of capable leaders rising into prominence that should be able to win next election.


What? there has been dozens of evidence for massive voter fraud.

Twitter posts from randos are, while technically evidence, an extremely weak form of evidence.

In some respects, I half wonder if "the swamp" has done exactly what Trump wanted it to do. Say what you will about him, but he is a clever man that does little without reason and has for four years straight been pursuing a campaign of calculated provocation. If it is electoral fraud that has swung things, then the Democrats have done it on an unprecedented scale. So unprecedented, that they'll struggle to cover it up if it's investigated...which the recently GOP friendly Supreme Court will likely do if Trump asks. And if they find solid evidence...

Has Trump allowed the Dems to cheat and thus provide enough rope to hang themselves with? It would certainly be in character for him.

This seems unlikely. Trump is clever, yes, but he does loads of things without good reason out of pride, spite, etc, and frankly if was this canny of a polical operator he would have used that skillset at some point in the past 4 years to actually pass elements of his agenda.

I mean personally I would encourage everyone here to start divesting themselves psychologically and emotionally from the rotten corpse that is the American empire.

Stop mourning a dead beast, and let it rot in the ground.

We lost one election, narrowly, and in literally any other circumstance would have crushed Biden. This isn't even close to being over, stop being such a doomer.
 
I second this and throw my own hat in. Guys, it’s been a tough fight and granted it may not be over yet. I understand the emotions involved. You know how I voted, it is what it is. But right now both liberals and conservatives have bled each other white. If Biden gets the WH? Its just barely. The Dems lost seats in Congress and couldn’t effectively take the senate.

There has been no decisive blow by either side. Somewhere along the way it’s easy to forget this is an election, not a damn war. The world moves on, until the next election. That is what part of a republic is about.

If we want to “war nerd” this, NATO and Warsaw Pact just fought each other to a standstill and bled each other white. So what happens now? Do you really want to crack out the nukes??
I said it before and I'll say it again. The game of senates continues. Under the surface is all the political under the table deals we're unaware of unless someone leaked it.
 
We lost one election, narrowly, and in literally any other circumstance would have crushed Biden.
BG, do you not know, I speak of the long term? Which this election is but one more step?

Anyways, I hope the 2020s give us good memes and booze.
 
Here's a good example of not elevating the discussion, a shit mod for another site comes to insult us.
You realize I haven't been a mod on SB for like. Fuck if I even know how long? Lol. But go on.

No seriously, I don't remember when I stopped being a mod on SB. 2014? 2012? Fuck if I know or care that much.
 
You realize I haven't been a mod on SB for like. Fuck if I even know how long? Lol. But go on.

No seriously, I don't remember when I stopped being a mod on SB. 2014? 2012? Fuck if I know or care that much.
I haven't been active on SB for over a year. Closer to a year and a half. I don't pay that much attention.

I just don't like you coming in here to insult us. It's not "elevating the discussion."
 
Guys, the Republicans control the Senate and expanded their numbers in the House.

Thanks to Trump the Supreme Court is conservative and due to the aforementioned Senate the Dems can't pack it. Nor will they be getting rid of the fillibuster and they will have to negotiate any tax increase through a Republican senate.

The possible Dem president who will be getting in will be an unpopular one who will probably backtrack on over half the shit he said to the far left when faced with governing in this situation.

Oh and the Trump tax cuts? They expire in 2025, right after the 2024 election. Mighty good fodder for a campaign eh?

Let's see what happens on the Presidential race front, recounts could yield fruit, who knows. But regardless, the structure of the US government and the separation of powers will probably prevent any too crazy shit from happening. Kind of like the Founding Fathers intended. i.e. its not the end of the world.
 
I haven't been active on SB for over a year. Closer to a year and a half. I don't pay that much attention.

I just don't like you coming in here to insult us. It's not "elevating the discussion."
Neither is slogging thru pages or pages or children crying about conspiracy theories and bullshit about "Doooooooom"

I check this thread for actual information, not petty bullshit and conspiracy theories about the death of America. And now guilt of association. So yeah, you can kindly fuck off.
 
I think everyone needs to calm down. This thing isn't over until its called.
We haven't even been complaining about the results the last several pages.

We have been complaining about BS staff decisions.

If you guys have to ban me, I accept that. But I am protesting this ruling.

I wasn't even one of the ones freaking out about fraud. I am defending those users. This is a hill I am willing to die on. I signed up here for free speech, not for staff to run cover for democrats and not allow us to talk. if that means me being banned, so be it, I didn't sign up for this.
 
If you guys have to ban me, I accept that. But I am protesting this ruling.

I wasn't even one of the ones freaking out about fraud. I am defending those users. This is a hill I am willing to die on. I signed up here for free speech, not for staff to run cover for democrats and not allow us to talk. if that means me being banned, so be it, I didn't sign up for this.
Usually I don't play apologist for the staff, but Rocinante, you could speak to them about it via staff comms if you have a concern. Rather that making a conflict right here and now.
 

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