Election 2020 Election 2020: It's (almost) over! (maybe...possibly...ahh who are we kidding, it's 2020!)

Alright, point take, Trump is popular by his own merits.

Trump has large in-party support. Biden actually had low in-party support.

However, one caveat is that the Democrats may have been so united in their mutual hatred for Trump that they had high turnout. That is a possibility. Generally you need a charismatic leader like Obama or Bill Clinton to get those sort of numbers. Instead, dislike for Trump may have been high enough to allow them to swing it.

That said...Trump has done a lot of damage to globalists and to the far left. There are several challenges ahead of a Biden/Harris administration.

1) Trump produced a supermajority on SCOTUS. Before, there wasn't much reason to go full throttle on all the things Democrats got through SCOTUS the first time around. Now...well, there really isn't. Especially if Republicans feel as though they were cheated by the Democrats. And there is many good reasons, from voter fraud to simple media disinformation to Democrats slandering Trump 24/7 for 4 years. Dreamers, Roe vs Wade, Abortion...the Republicans can target all of them. And the most devastating part is that it only takes one state of the about two dozen red states to challenge those laws.

2) The cracks within the Democratic party are deep. Removing Trump from play removes the Big Bad from their narrative. There's no uniting narrative for their party anymore. It's really, really easy to say you're gonna fix something...it's much harder to actually govern the situation yourself. Something Trump had to deal with. And Trump was actually an effective (if crude) President.

3) If the Senate or the House or both stay red, then Biden/Harris basically can't move any domestic issues they care about. Nor do they have the mandate that they wanted. More importantly, while Biden and Harris will be having to combat a Republican party, they will also be fighting a divided Democrat Party. This is the same problem that Trump had in his first two years; he had to push all the old people out. Imagine trying to do that with the Democrats and it has all the potential of a massive bloodbath.

4) Biden is inheriting both a weak economy and a pandemic. Not only does he need to do better than Trump in one, he needs to do so in both. He claimed the weak economy was because of Trump. Well, he better produce a better economy. He claimed the terrible pandemic was because of Trump...well, he better be able to prove it. Like, we'd need to see stark improvements between now and April. After we get the vaccine that's been in the works for a year, you can't really take credit.

Overall, it's probably going to be a shitshow with a worse economy.
 
Trump has large in-party support. Biden actually had low in-party support.

However, one caveat is that the Democrats may have been so united in their mutual hatred for Trump that they had high turnout. That is a possibility. Generally you need a charismatic leader like Obama or Bill Clinton to get those sort of numbers. Instead, dislike for Trump may have been high enough to allow them to swing it.

That said...Trump has done a lot of damage to globalists and to the far left. There are several challenges ahead of a Biden/Harris administration.

1) Trump produced a supermajority on SCOTUS. Before, there wasn't much reason to go full throttle on all the things Democrats got through SCOTUS the first time around. Now...well, there really isn't. Especially if Republicans feel as though they were cheated by the Democrats. And there is many good reasons, from voter fraud to simple media disinformation to Democrats slandering Trump 24/7 for 4 years. Dreamers, Roe vs Wade, Abortion...the Republicans can target all of them. And the most devastating part is that it only takes one state of the about two dozen red states to challenge those laws.

2) The cracks within the Democratic party are deep. Removing Trump from play removes the Big Bad from their narrative. There's no uniting narrative for their party anymore. It's really, really easy to say you're gonna fix something...it's much harder to actually govern the situation yourself. Something Trump had to deal with. And Trump was actually an effective (if crude) President.

3) If the Senate or the House or both stay red, then Biden/Harris basically can't move any domestic issues they care about. Nor do they have the mandate that they wanted. More importantly, while Biden and Harris will be having to combat a Republican party, they will also be fighting a divided Democrat Party. This is the same problem that Trump had in his first two years; he had to push all the old people out. Imagine trying to do that with the Democrats and it has all the potential of a massive bloodbath.

4) Biden is inheriting both a weak economy and a pandemic. Not only does he need to do better than Trump in one, he needs to do so in both. He claimed the weak economy was because of Trump. Well, he better produce a better economy. He claimed the terrible pandemic was because of Trump...well, he better be able to prove it. Like, we'd need to see stark improvements between now and April. After we get the vaccine that's been in the works for a year, you can't really take credit.

Overall, it's probably going to be a shitshow with a worse economy.

what happens if he tries to pack the court?
 
Trump just won ME-2. There are now just two realistic paths to victory for Biden -- 270 - 268 or 290 - 248 depending on which way Pennsylvania goes. Technically Georgia is still in play, but I don't really buy that one.
What is ME-2?

Maine is Biden as far as I can see...
 
What is ME-2?

Maine is Biden as far as I can see...

ME and NE split electoral votes based on other criteria. So ME has 4 electoral votes, but the electoral votes get split based on the popular vote of certain areas.


Exactly. Each congressional district's elector in Maine is given to its winner. The two for the Senators are given to the winner of the entire state. So Biden got three EVs in Maine, and Trump got one.
 
Hold. Held is past tense.

:p

Sorry, just trying to brighten the mood a little.

Well, I meant it in the sense of "fended off the attack" you know. Because military metaphors in American politics are as old as the country itself.

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Man, I don't know. I don't really want to buy into the voting fraud theory, but I'm watching Crowders stream and he is talking to a poll watcher for Trumps campaign who observed a Detroit polling station, and she filmed people pulling in wagons, coolers, bringing in bags and boxes all after the counting has supposedly stopped, and with no one checking the contents.

I mean, for sure some of it is likely sandwiches and drinks for the long night, but no one was even bothering to look. The guards were just waving these containers through the front door.
 
Man, I don't know. I don't really want to buy into the voting fraud theory, but I'm watching Crowders stream and he is talking to a poll watcher for Trumps campaign who observed a Detroit polling station, and she filmed people pulling in wagons, coolers, bringing in bags and boxes all after the counting has supposedly stopped, and with no one checking the contents.

I mean, for sure some of it is likely sandwiches and drinks for the long night, but no one was even bothering to look. The guards were just waving these containers through the front door.
No one brings that many coolers for drinks/sandwiches. Maybe 1-2 people at most. I get 1/2, but the number of large bags and a voting box in a wagon is super sus. Then covering up the windows. No security checking things or people.
 
No one brings that many coolers for drinks/sandwiches. Maybe 1-2 people at most. I get 1/2, but the number of large bags and a voting box in a wagon is super sus. Then covering up the windows. No security checking things or people.
Any word if Tump and company are aware of this yet?
 
Man, I don't know. I don't really want to buy into the voting fraud theory, but I'm watching Crowders stream and he is talking to a poll watcher for Trumps campaign who observed a Detroit polling station, and she filmed people pulling in wagons, coolers, bringing in bags and boxes all after the counting has supposedly stopped, and with no one checking the contents.

I mean, for sure some of it is likely sandwiches and drinks for the long night, but no one was even bothering to look. The guards were just waving these containers through the front door.

In all fairness, its Detroit. If could happen anywhere it is there.
 

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