Cuban Exiles and Their Experiences

Arch Dornan

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A lot, one of the oldest guys claims he was tortured by Che, which I am inclined to believe. A lot the older ones were forced to watch their parents who were in their fifties back then shot.


One of the younger guys had to fly back to Cuba last year to dig up his dead dad and boil what was. Left of the meat off his bones and then shove them in a bag then dumped on a shelf.

Because they only allow your loved ones to be buried for a period of two years then they repossess the grave.

Between those stories and the shit the Montoneros and ERP did to my family my opinion of Marxist and Ddconstructivist thinking is that if you support it you are an enemy of whatever nation you reside in
Getting tortured personally by Che? He must have celebrated when Che's days of foreign adventures were over in Bolivia and would pay for a ticket to see him in captivity and spit on him to his execution.

The stories of the Cuban exile is quite interesting. The general hoopla I know is Che and Castro banded together like a communist dirty dozen and overthrew the Batista regime. After that I don't know much of anything else except this one celebrated general of his thrown under the bus for drug trafficking when instead it was the sunk cost fallacy of fucking around in Angola playing at foreign military adventures.

So at the beginning were the exiles the top class before it went lower when the oppression started to clamp in?


From this I get the impression it was the usual spiel to convince naive people to support him. Your current leaders a dick and corrupt too so let me takeover and be even worse because I'm a control freak with no idea how to run society?
 

The Immortal Watch Dog

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The one thing I always hear from Miami Exiles is that as cruel as Gueverra was and as cold as Castro was, the one that scared everyone the most was Raul Castro.

Raul apparently executed something like five thousand people because he got bored, he had a private mausoleum where his boyfriends were buried because he'd kill them when they all turned 21 or 18 depending on who is telling the story. Exiles basically portray Raul Castro as a ravenous beast man who was entirely governed by his instincts and had almost no self control over anything

Getting tortured personally by Che? He must have celebrated when Che's days of foreign adventures were over in Bolivia and would pay for a ticket to see him in captivity and spit on him to his execution.

I've actually got a family history with Guevara, mostly because originally he was a diehard fascist and a big fanboy of Peron. My grandfather who was the Minister of culture for at the time had been a speech writer for Peron. Che, apparently kept trying to convince the head of some Federal agency to kill him but the "dictator" that governed Argentina at that point was benevolent and dismissed him as a harmless larper.

Then he fucked off for Mexico..and the rest is history..

I was able to meet the CANF founders, even got to talk to Jorge Masconosa before his death but I was really young so don't remember much of that.


Huber Matos was an interesting figure.



The stories of the Cuban exile is quite interesting. The general hoopla I know is Che and Castro banded together like a communist dirty dozen and overthrew the Batista regime. After that I don't know much of anything else except this one celebrated general of his thrown under the bus for drug trafficking when instead it was the sunk cost fallacy of fucking around in Angola playing at foreign military adventures.

Naw, Che was banging mestiza's and getting high off cocaine in Mexico City when Raul Castro was shattering the pelvis of a boy whore and the two basically did a bunch of drugs together and Raulito convinced Fidel this dude was a charismatic mouthpiece.

There's a story about Camilo Cienfuegos wanting to torture Guevara to death for being such a dumbfuck. The reality of Guevara vs the myth of the man are very different.

He was a shitty upper middle class larper who got humiliated by the real deal, switched ideologies for clout, more or less prostituted himself for attention and was a generally, violent, dimwitted, willfully ignorant slob who was so stupid he genuinely thought the Chinese viewed him as an equal.

That was why he was killed by the way, he was trying to get the Chinese to replace the Soviets as the puppet masters of leftist movements in Africa and Central and south America. He was so desperate for fame and so butthurt that Castro made a better figurehead of the revolution that he convinced himself the Cheecoms would be better for the Americas than The ruskies.

Dude was trash. He gives us Argentines a bad name...Him and that sack of shit Justicialista Pope..

I genuinely have no idea how Fidel successfully overthrew Batista when the most competent and intelligent members of his inner circle (Matos and Cienfuegos) were plotting to kill his ass and torpedo the revolution from day one.

And the rest of his cadre consistent of a blood thirsty lunatic (Raul) and a fucking attention whore (Che). There was always a rumor that Lansky convinced the heads of the commission to withdraw their support from the Batista regime and the US was too busy jerking it over what was happening in Paraguay, Brazil and Argentina at the time.

To hear the tale as told by the survivors of that era who are all now pushing 90 or 100 they basically say Castro deserves respect for being so strong of will that he was able to professionally tard wrangle his allies enough to take advantage of a clusterfuck.

Then slowly remove the maniacs and put a leash on his loony toon brother and that's basically how he ran Cuba..by being the head Dog in the junkyard.

God though, the stories I've heard about Raul make him out to be some kind of ogre. I've heard he's done everything short of literal baby eating.

Also supposedly he was on personal terms with Jimmy Saville..and assuming that isn't just Exile homophobia (All Cubans seem to detest the LGBT community pretty profoundly..Exiles are just the loudest ones in the US), that kinda tells you all you need to know about the Castro's.

Batista backed the wrong horse, he also thought he could reason with the Castros...my guess is that's what destroyed him, coupled with the insane viciousness of Castro's people.

Also if Che were born in the 90's, he'd be a feminized soyboy chanting ACAB and BLACK LIVES MATTER and FED GOV PLEASE DON'T SHOOT ME and all that other bullshit.

He'd probably post on Whitehall too...with all the other dysgenics.

So at the beginning were the exiles the top class before it went lower when the oppression started to clamp in?


Naw the Exiles who built Miami were all the Cuban middle class. castro got this big brained idea to eject all the small business owners, engineers, managers, accountants, doctors and lawyers from Cuba.

the very wealthy fucked off to New York, Spain or Houston..sadly most of those traidores vote Democrat.

But the guys who became the political monster that made Miami into an economic mecca, fought Pablo Escobar all over the South East, broke the back of the dixiecrats in Florida and some say..killed every single Kennedy' whose died mysteriously since Dallas were the soccer moms.

Basically suburb types. It's just they arrived at a city ready to grow, with the right kind of expertise and were determined never to get fucked over like that again. So they consolidated and began building.

Most of the wealthy elite of South Florida today are the grandchildren of men and women who came with only their minds and ambition. One guy I know started as a security guard at a Jewish owned Jewelry store in Brickell

He's 90 now and is a gem supplier who founded a small bank out here.

It's a myth that they were all the wealthy elite, the "slave owners" as mouth breathers on Sv and on Twitter call them. Most of them were basically just regular people.

What they became over the following six decades was because of their resolve. Caribbean peoples tend to be very upwardly mobile, Not very many Haitians stay poor for example.

But its a lie the Democrats and commie sympathizers like to tell because it makes them feel better about the fact that they tried to enslave the exiles with welfare the way they did blacks and got their asses handed to them and were mocked as a result. They have a pathological and neurotic hatred of the exile community and it makes them feel better about themselves to call them Gusanos and slave drivers...the truth is.

They're what the American left fears, redpilled immigrants and irate soccer moms.

From this I get the impression it was the usual spiel to convince naive people to support him. Your current leaders a dick and corrupt too so let me takeover and be even worse because I'm a control freak with no idea how to run society?

It was also a little bit of personal resentment.

People don't realize how deeply personal a right wing Latinos took Kennedy's treachery at the Bay of Pigs and his perceived surrender during the missile crisis.

This resulted in not just among Cubans but amongst a lot of South American and Caribbean peoples rejected them and raising their kids to screw the Democratic party at every opportunity.

You even see this now, where its not uncommon for parents to tell their kids "Don't expect much from your public school teachers, if they were smart they wouldn't be teaching you" and its because most educators vote Democrat.

So its not just...just historical revisionism.. done to suck off Castro's rotting corpse, its out of butthurt basically.

I wish I knew all the facts. Narratives lie.

The facts are this.

Batista was a piece of shit...

But Fidel Castro was even worse... And everything that South Florida has, is owed to Fidel being so stupid that he threw every talented person off his island and gave them to us 300767289228263424.png


I'll tell you a little secret...No South American revolution that was leftwing was ever benevolent.

Pinochet, primadonna asshole that he was, has a more legitimate claim to being heroic than any leftwing rebel, terrorist, Montonero, Castrista and Chavista will ever have.

edit- Hah I'm Hurricane posting.
 
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CarlManvers2019

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Word of advice, don’t watch/read Baki


Even in Japan there are idiots who think highly of him

Just so you know, the author likes Hillary.....TBF he’s definitely really out of touch regarding actual history and may not even know who Pol Pot is/was
 

Arch Dornan

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I genuinely have no idea how Fidel successfully overthrew Batista when the most competent and intelligent members of his inner circle (Matos and Cienfuegos) were plotting to kill his ass and torpedo the revolution from day one.
I think it's just bad luck and bad decisions from top to bottom that got Batista to lose.
He was a shitty upper middle class larper who got humiliated by the real deal, switched ideologies for clout, more or less prostituted himself for attention and was a generally, violent, dimwitted, willfully ignorant slob who was so stupid he genuinely thought the Chinese viewed him as an equal.
Humiliated by who?

People don't realize how deeply personal a right wing Latinos took Kennedy's treachery at the Bay of Pigs and his perceived surrender during the missile crisis.

This resulted in not just among Cubans but amongst a lot of South American and Caribbean peoples rejected them and raising their kids to screw the Democratic party at every opportunity.
Kennedy's treachery was from supporting the Bay of Pig's invasion of by half assing it?

Naw the Exiles who built Miami were all the Cuban middle class. castro got this big brained idea to eject all the small business owners, engineers, managers, accountants, doctors and lawyers from Cuba.
How communist of him.

Also if Che were born in the 90's, he'd be a feminized soyboy chanting ACAB and BLACK LIVES MATTER and FED GOV PLEASE DON'T SHOOT ME and all that other bullshit.
Maybe he'll switch religion and go to the middle east to die there or get stuck in perpetual prison since he likes gun toting adventures.
 
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The Immortal Watch Dog

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Humiliated by who?

Everyone? Contrary to the narrative, Che wasn't exactly well liked anywhere but the US by idiots and hippies.

Kennedy's treachery was from supporting the Bay of Pig's invasion of by half assing it?

According to them JFK turned on Anti Castro Cubans because they wouldn't submit to the Democrat party machine and because he was a closet communist.

I think he half hassed it but I can see the first part being somewhat plausible. The Cafe Versailles crowd like to claim his death was justice either way.

How communist of him.

Then he ejected all the hardworking poor as well.

He wanted to create an island of idiots utterly enthralled to his will.
 

Arch Dornan

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Everyone? Contrary to the narrative, Che wasn't exactly well liked anywhere but the US by idiots and hippies.
Ah. Alright. I thought you meant he met a real communist and thought he was a poser.

Then he ejected all the hardworking poor as well.

He wanted to create an island of idiots utterly enthralled to his will.
An island hugbox. Not that it's been tried before.

It must be thrilling. Getting rid of all the smart ones so everyone else relies on Castro for guidance.
 

CarlManvers2019

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Everyone? Contrary to the narrative, Che wasn't exactly well liked anywhere but the US by idiots and hippies.

Include some dudes from Japan like Keisuke Itagaki and probably a good portion of Western Europe.....yeah I wonder how many people actually knew Che outside of the abridged version and Hollywood and the like
 

Arch Dornan

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Include some dudes from Japan like Keisuke Itagaki and probably a good portion of Western Europe.....yeah I wonder how many people actually knew Che outside of the abridged version and Hollywood and the like
I don't know him that much except mentions of him in Peacewalker after he thought he could try his stunt again, the CIA spared no effort in hunting him down so in Bolivia with a max wanted rating he got busted and shot.

What else? He hated homos and liked executing people as Immortal Dog has plenty to say on that.

Tried fucking around in Africa but it didn't work out and felt the locals weren't motivated enough at the revolutionary larping.

I don't know if he'd like those T-shirts or not unless it would satisfy his ego or dislike it out of ideology.
 

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I don't know him that much except mentions of him in Peacewalker after he thought he could try his stunt again, the CIA spared no effort in hunting him down so in Bolivia with a max wanted rating he got busted and shot.

What else? He hated homos and liked executing people as Immortal Dog has plenty to say on that.

Tried fucking around in Africa but it didn't work out and felt the locals weren't motivated enough at the revolutionary larping.

I don't know if he'd like those T-shirts or not unless it would satisfy his ego or dislike it out of ideology.

I remember reading a comic by Europe Comics named “Man of The Year” one was “The Man Who Killed Che Guevarra” which was lionizing him and saying he was a great guy who did nice stuff for Cuba and the MC regrets killing him today and stuff
 

The Immortal Watch Dog

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Lol him and Raul Castro executed thousands of prisoners out of literal boredom. "Great man" my ass, he was a puffed up proto soyboy who got thrown out of the LatAm fascist movement for being a fame whore and became a communist to soothe his wounded pride.

Nothing about Guevera was brave or noble or heroic.

If he was a millennial he would basically be Vaush right down to the morbid obesity, big fat mentally retarded mestiza girlfriend and filthy manbun
 

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Hey, Immortal, I am not sure you are being fair...to that Vanush guy. Nah, I am pretty sure good old Larper boy wouldn't even be that functional.

And speaking of Che Shirts, they amuse me so, since it is capitalism co-opting one of its opponents, making him a joke in a way...or rather in a way making him a bigger joke than he already was.
 

The Immortal Watch Dog

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Hey, Immortal, I am not sure you are being fair...to that Vanush guy. Nah, I am pretty sure good old Larper boy wouldn't even be that functional.

IWD* its a much more efficient abbreviation of my name and its how I've been addressed for the last..almost 20 years online.

Save text space.

And true..Vaush at least tries to hide how much of a degenerate he is...Che actually wrote off his drugs and prostitutes as expenses to the Castro regime and once tried to have government assets clean up an overdose.


And speaking of Che Shirts, they amuse me so, since it is capitalism co-opting one of its opponents, making him a joke in a way...or rather in a way making him a bigger joke than he already was.

The only reason why I don't take them as a poetic victory is that Ernie the druggie Geuvera would have actually really enjoyed the shirts and would be googling sales figures 24/7 were he still alive.

Otherwise yeah..you're right


edit- Have you guys ever heard the theory that Camilo Cienfuegos was a closet Ancap and his support of the Castro Regime was all about using the tyranny of the Castro brothers and the inevitable response to them by various right wing groups across the Americas to spark a glorious LatAM Social darwinist revolution?

According to some he was like a special needs fusion of Makoto Shishio and Tyr Anasazi from Andromda.

I've no idea if that's just Exiles doing the Cuban equivalent of a shitpost but it's always made me chuckle.
 

Arch Dornan

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edit- Have you guys ever heard the theory that Camilo Cienfuegos was a closet Ancap and his support of the Castro Regime was all about using the tyranny of the Castro brothers and the inevitable response to them by various right wing groups across the Americas to spark a glorious LatAM Social darwinist revolution?

According to some he was like a special needs fusion of Makoto Shishio and Tyr Anasazi from Andromda.

I've no idea if that's just Exiles doing the Cuban equivalent of a shitpost but it's always made me chuckle.
I have no idea who he is but after checking him out he's someone who disappeared.

Wouldn't suprise me if he's a loony. Someone topples the government and they can go on a powertrip thinking their ideas are the hot shit that will hasten the promised utopia.
 

CarlManvers2019

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I have no idea who he is but after checking him out he's someone who disappeared.

Wouldn't suprise me if he's a loony. Someone topples the government and they can go on a powertrip thinking their ideas are the hot shit that will hasten the promised utopia.

And feel like a celebrity as Far Left media and academia talk about how much of an underdog they are
 

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IWD* its a much more efficient abbreviation of my name and its how I've been addressed for the last..almost 20 years online.

Save text space.

And true..Vaush at least tries to hide how much of a degenerate he is...Che actually wrote off his drugs and prostitutes as expenses to the Castro regime and once tried to have government assets clean up an overdose.




The only reason why I don't take them as a poetic victory is that Ernie the druggie Geuvera would have actually really enjoyed the shirts and would be googling sales figures 24/7 were he still alive.

Otherwise yeah..you're right


edit- Have you guys ever heard the theory that Camilo Cienfuegos was a closet Ancap and his support of the Castro Regime was all about using the tyranny of the Castro brothers and the inevitable response to them by various right wing groups across the Americas to spark a glorious LatAM Social darwinist revolution?

According to some he was like a special needs fusion of Makoto Shishio and Tyr Anasazi from Andromda.

I've no idea if that's just Exiles doing the Cuban equivalent of a shitpost but it's always made me chuckle.

The more that I hear of Che, the more my already low opinion of him drops. And that is sad, it ruins the schadenfreude I would have had at his expense.

Though, at least for Lenin we have such comfort. The man did not want to be turned into a dead symbol after his departure, yet he was, and not only that he was turned into a taxidermied saint of sorts. Entirely antithetical to what the man believed. And not only that he has become the same sort of symbol to those he would despise, the worst of the bourgeoisie.

Given how utterly insane history can be, I don't doubt the possibility. After all the modern world order could be considered to have been created because a terrorist wanted a sandwich.

I have no idea who he is but after checking him out he's someone who disappeared.

Wouldn't suprise me if he's a loony. Someone topples the government and they can go on a powertrip thinking their ideas are the hot shit that will hasten the promised utopia.

Taking what you both said into account...holy shit he is an accelerationist lunatic. Throwing gasoline on the fire in hopes he might build on the ashes.

As in "Ha Ha Ha! Society flying off cliff goes vrooom!"
 

Arch Dornan

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And feel like a celebrity as Far Left media and academia talk about how much of an underdog they are
Taking what you both said into account...holy shit he is an accelerationist lunatic. Throwing gasoline on the fire in hopes he might build on the ashes.

As in "Ha Ha Ha! Society flying off cliff goes vrooom!"
And you made me realise human nature hasn't changed one bit. Only what the tools of violence are provided to allow it to happen. You could be a bum to an educated statesman and order many to the guillotine because of wrongthink and treason.

The only consideration is if the leader knows what he's really doing to keep society running.
 

Arch Dornan

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It really is the most important bit when seizing the reins of power or doing nasty shit without the public knowing. Even goes for our so called modern society where the bread and circuses are abundant. Consuum next product, be distracted by social issues, or get enough living standards and pay no attention to what paranoid aluminum covered people are pointing out at mysterious disappearances, missing funding hidden into a swiss bank account or clandestine meetings on a happy fun times island.
 

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