Really at the end of the day people are willing to over look the swiss bank account, and the happy island shit as long as the powers that be leave them the fuck alone in their daily lives. Its the fact that they take time away from their hedonism to make our lives miserable that people dislike.
Cuban Exiles and Their Experiences
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Really at the end of the day people are willing to over look the swiss bank account, and the happy island shit as long as the powers that be leave them the fuck alone in their daily lives. Its the fact that they take time away from their hedonism to make our lives miserable that people dislike.
Which is hilariously..usually how you get fascism.
The degenerates in the upper class push their kitchen communism and the response is usually the middle class going "ahaha fuuuuccckkk yooouu"
And that's how Pinochet and Jorge Rafeal Videla took power to name two that are "geographically topical"
Arch Dornan
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Swiss bank accounts are fine as long as the country is prosperous enough to tuck in some cash while no one's looking.
The happy island shit depends on how hedonistic Mr Dictator really is and who he chooses to be degenerate on that gets leaked out.
gral
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That's also how General Olympio Mourão Filho started his trip to Rio de Janeiro on the night of March 31st, 1964. When his troops passed through Petrópolis(some 50 kilometers north of Rio), the Bishop of the city blessed his troops. While leftists like to say João Goulart's ousting had no popular support, among themselves they admit the middle class was strongly in favor of it, and would only begin to have some misgivings by 1967-8.
The 64 coup was a lot like the Chilean one wasn't it? Where the congress of the country felt the left had so thoroughly infiltrated and co opted the Justice system and the political infrastructure that there was no way for Democracy but to do a hard reboot?
It doesn't surprise me the Brazilian middle class supported him, a lot of the precursors to the Montonero movement (and Montoneros themselves a decade and change later) were heavily involved in trying to reinforce leftism in Brazil and those fuckers loved bombing suburbs and murdering police chiefs and ex presidents in front of their grandkids. Nut sure if the Brazilian left went that crazy...but even if they got up to a fraction of the shit they got up too then?
These are events the Rinos and the so called high minded conservatives should pay very close attention too....Because in the Americas...soft, weak conservative movements who capitulate to the mob are often replaced by far more intense...cynical movements and when the whole nation's middle class backs them..its very hard to actually stop them.
Especially when your constituents are now convinced you failed and are disloyal to them.
Latin America is a window into what the US could easily become. And to pretend the CIA did all of it is just retarded...Especially when two of the most important juntas began before the CIA even existed.
Argentina and Paraguay were entirely organic...the CIA's involvement in the ousting of Isabela Peron consisted of attempting to tard wrangle the god damn star worshipping furry and his legion of vigilantes.
Castro himself used the rhetoric but he never really believed it.
Honestly I don't even care about income tax evasion (Mostly because I genuinely believe the US bureaucracy needs to be reduced to 10% of what it is), the more public employees that lose their jobs because of a lack of funding the better..the more middle class people learn how to game the IRS the better.
My problem is the particularly vile brand of Deconstructivism influenced communism the 1% likes to larp out...And the fact that most are pedophiles and sickly and weak.
It's the attempt to deify social and genetic degeneracy..and the unprecedented amount of soft power they wield. The World hasn't seen a Zuckerberg or that Pajeet who runs google since friggen Marcus Crassus..And his existence precipitated the end of the Republic.
gral
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No, it was different from the Chilean coup.
There's a lot of story behind it which I'll omit here - the story of the 64 coup begins in 1945, when Vargas' fascistic dictatorship was brought down. Vargas started emphasizing the Labour aspects of its regime in early 1945, when he saw that he was going to allow free elections. The Labour faction of his government founded the Brazilian Labour Party(PTB), which, after the outlawing of the Communist Party, became the main leftist party in Brazil.
João Goulart, president of the PTB, was elected vice-president of Brazil in 1960(until then people elected separately the President and the Vice-President), and when the incumbent President resigned after 5-6 months of government, became president of Brazil. Meanwhile, the PTB was the fastest-growing party in Brazil, and had managed to become the second-largest party in Congress, after PSD(also founded by former members of Vargas' regime, but from the bureaucracy).
With that, PTB, which had mostly been a junior party in the PSD-PTB coalition that won most elections in the 1946-1960 period, started throwing its weight around, pushing for leftist policies, something which led to a reaction from the traditionalist sectors of the middle and upper class. This meant that the political scenario was chaotic(even the military high command was politically split), and Goulart, being the PTB leader, leaned on it and the PTB-associated labour unions for political support.
On March 13th, 1964, in a major Union rally, Goulart announces, among other measures, land reform on those lands owned by the Federal government. You can guess how people reacted to that. Even worse, on March 25th, a group of Navy enlisted personnel goes on 'strike'(by definition, a mutiny) - and João Goulart goes to the mutineers to hear their demands and show his support - this removes all pro-Goulart support in the military command. Even then, the military high command doesn't move at all, until General Olympio Mourão Filho, a(IIRC) division commander, goes 'fuck this shit, I'm going to take action' and orders, in the night of March 31st, his troops to move to Rio de Janeiro, where most of the government functions and Embassies still resided(Brasília had been founded 4 years before, but it would take almost 20 years for all administrative functions to move there).
As for leftist guerillas, we had them; Dilma Rousseff, former President(and eternal idiot), robbed banks as a member of a leftist guerilla movement. Still, neither their action nor their repression came close to reaching the number of deaths in Argentina and Chile(some 500-700 dead due to political violence).
I just wanna toss this out there, but in case you guys have never heard this before. It is not uncommon for Cubans who live in Miami who left the island, yet left family behind to have to return to bury their mothers and fathers. What you likely haven't heard about, but does occur is that a year after the burial you are then contacted and told that you have six months to fly back to Cuba to "move the body".
See they make you disinter your dead relatives, rend their fat and flesh off the bones and then shove said bones in bags to be stuffed in a gigantic warehouse.
Failure to comply? they dig your people up and dump them in a landfill.
Forget the executions, forget the repression, forget the fact that they'll execute you for slaughtering a cow and throw you in prison for owning one as if they were feudal lords.... Any land where the dead are so thoroughly disrespected and neglected isn't a nation run by men..but by animals..by carrion eaters.
Any way back from exile and thought I'd toss that little tidbit out here.
Half our congress is in favor of this.
also point and laugh at code pink.
See they make you disinter your dead relatives, rend their fat and flesh off the bones and then shove said bones in bags to be stuffed in a gigantic warehouse.
Failure to comply? they dig your people up and dump them in a landfill.
Forget the executions, forget the repression, forget the fact that they'll execute you for slaughtering a cow and throw you in prison for owning one as if they were feudal lords.... Any land where the dead are so thoroughly disrespected and neglected isn't a nation run by men..but by animals..by carrion eaters.
Any way back from exile and thought I'd toss that little tidbit out here.
Half our congress is in favor of this.
also point and laugh at code pink.
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Lanmandragon
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Ehh truth is the republicas doomed with the Marian reforms far predating crassus. The dude just took advantage of what had already been the norm for a century or better. See also Ceaser, Sulla, Pompey, Octavian etc. Basically the republic was just a shambling corpse which is what allowed people like. Crassus and co to do what they did.
I suppose, you could also go back to the Gracchi Brothers and lay the blame at their feet as well.
gral
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There's a(Brazilian) guy who's doing a series of podcasts on the end of the Roman Republic - the first episode of the series started with the Gracchi Brothers.
I'd say the end of the Republic began with them, but they were responding to a situation that was mostly brought by the Punic Wars - more specifically, the impoverishment of the Roman citizen farmers that were the basis of the Roman Army, and the deluge of people who moved into Rome(and became plebs), both driven by the destruction of Italy's countryside, a consequence of Hannibal's 10-year rampage in South and Central Italy.
I think you could make an argument that the end of the Roman Republic was Hannibal's Revenge, brought to its conclusion almost two hundred years after he died.
Arch Dornan
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It's not Dohvahatty?
gral
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Hahaha, no, it's a serious podcast, not a tongue-in-cheek one(also, he covers other subjects - he did one episode about the Black Death). For those who can understand Portuguese, search for "Historia Magister" on YouTube. Right now, all that he has posted(on YouTube and other places) is the Republica Finita series and the Black Death Episode("Filhos da Pandemia" - "Children of the Pandemic"), but he has stated he wants to cover other subjects.
The depressing part is that Dovah is probably a better historian than most public educators..Also his thing about the Germanics being what we'd called welfare kweens now..ain't exactly wrong.
Med supremacists calling Nordicists Snow Apes and Alpine Baboons (which Aramburu and the guy in the DR and the Congolese fascists did refer to Nazis as apparently), is pretty damn hilarious.
On the topic of exiles, apparently Antifa is now relentlessly attacking the Miami Cuban community on twitter and seriously asking "Why they don't vote like Mexicans"
Putos, even Mexicans don't vote like "Mexicans"
Lanmandragon
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As a black con I'll just say this is standard wiyh the left. Minority "status" only applies to those will right think.
Arch Dornan
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If he gets paid more for his fun interpretation of history he can fun with other chad civilisations.
They always do that true. A lot of us South Americans and Afro Caribbean people and Cubans are never black or "lantinx" because we are too uppity and vote wrong. Mostly because their bullshit is an old hat.
...God I hate the word Latinx. It's one of the most racist assaults on our shared language I can think of
Arch Dornan
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Latinx is the most stupid sounding word I ever heard. It's like a hipster dreamt it after smoking pot.
gral
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You won't see me disagreeing with either of these two statements... as for the 'latinx' pseudo-word, it gets worse(let me see if I can copy this here... ah, found a YouTube link of the video):
Portuguese "neutral language" - this is the sort of thing they are pushing here.
For those who don't know Portuguese, the language has two genders(masculine and feminine), a consequence of the subsumption of the neutral gender into the masculine one in... 3rd-4th Century Latin, IIRC. Furthermore, masculine is the default gender of the language - plural formed with masculine and feminine nouns or persons automatically defaults to masculine plural form(a group of 49 women and a single man would be referred as 'eles', the plural form of 'him').
Of course this enrages the feminist lefties, so they try to create a 'neutral language' The first attempt was putting 'x' in place of gender suffixes, now they are trying to create new, neutral gender suffixes. At one point of the video, the... being explaining this load of tripe violates the made-up plural rules just so the neutral plural form doesn't become the same as the masculine plural one, because this just cannot happen, you see.
....What I just witnessed was a rape perpetrated upon your language by a self hating pawn of vile Snow Ape Deconstructivist devils...
gral
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... which right now is part of a fringe minority, but its kind is getting entrenched in the educational system, under the cover given by their less-radical fellow travelers. There are times when I despair, and think the only way of solving this shit is doing a re-enacting of the Rwandan Genocide in a larger scale, focused on academia and the teachers. 'Oh, it'll set the country back at least 50 years' 'I don't care, not anymore'.