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United States Confederate Statues, symbols, and memorials debate thread

Abhishekm

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How wonderfully intellectually dishonest. God is capitalized for a reason, which is that is the name of a deity - the Christian deity.
And Judaism and Islam and you know Hindus capitalize God too right? Like is there a religion that uses a lower case for their own God?
 

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So? It's a very much Christian holiday that only Christians celebrate. That's establishing a religion.
You might have had an argument if you were talking about Easter, but Christmas? Everyone and their mother celebrates it, regardless of what their religious beliefs happen to be; and the vast majority of them care about as much about the holiday's connection to Christianity as they do its connection to various other religions.

Christmas is about Santa Claus, family get-togethers; all that jazz. It is not about worshiping one particular cult's bearded man in the sky. Heck; before its current incarnation, Christmas was more about getting drunk than anything else. It hasn't been about celebrating the birth of Christ for a very, very long time.
 

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That too.
I know people who celebrate Christmas and are stunch haters of religion.
Because it isn't about Christ for them, it is about family get together, a time of year to take a break, relax and enjoy family time.
Get stuff you saved up for your kids or friends or family.
 

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That too.
I know people who celebrate Christmas and are stunch haters of religion.
Because it isn't about Christ for them, it is about family get together, a time of year to take a break, relax and enjoy family time.
Get stuff you saved up for your kids or friends or family.
ILLEGAL! Absolutely Racismo. Sooo Problematic. Get back to the Work Rest Consolidated Cage 2022 version Wagey. Family, Tradition and Breaks are tools for the Patriarchytm!
 

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You might have had an argument if you were talking about Easter, but Christmas? Everyone and their mother celebrates it, regardless of what their religious beliefs happen to be;
Yeah, that's simply not true. None of my Jewish friends celebrate it, for just one example. I don't either. Yes, it's very commercialized, but it is ultimately Christian, there's just a number of 'Christians' that only celebrate that and Easter.
 

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Yeah, that's simply not true. None of my Jewish friends celebrate it, for just one example. I don't either. Yes, it's very commercialized, but it is ultimately Christian, there's just a number of 'Christians' that only celebrate that and Easter.
I like how you led with Jewish.
There are more non Christians who celebrate Christmas then non Christians that dont.
 

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Yeah, that's simply not true. None of my Jewish friends celebrate it, for just one example. I don't either. Yes, it's very commercialized, but it is ultimately Christian, there's just a number of 'Christians' that only celebrate that and Easter.
And I supposed that means that eating pork and crustaceans is a uniquely Christian practice too? You're talking to an agnostic who celebrates Christmas; and you don't get to tell me why I do.
 

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Yeah, that's simply not true. None of my Jewish friends celebrate it, for just one example. I don't either. Yes, it's very commercialized, but it is ultimately Christian, there's just a number of 'Christians' that only celebrate that and Easter.
To a devout Catholic - and according to Catholic teaching - attending Mass on Easter Sunday is required to call yourself Catholic*. Every other mass is optional because God cares more about what you do than how or when you pray.

* Any one Easter Sunday once in your lifetime will do.
 

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To a devout Catholic - and according to Catholic teaching - attending Mass on Easter Sunday is required to call yourself Catholic*. Every other mass is optional because God cares more about what you do than how or when you pray.

* Any one Easter Sunday once in your lifetime will do.
Ummmmm.... no. You couldn't be more wrong at all.

You obviously have not been properly catechized if that is what you think the Church teaches. I strongly recommend sitting down with a good priest and discussing these sorts of things, because you are so far off base.

Catholics, in general, are required to attend at least one Mass on each day of obligation, the core holy days are set by the Vatican and are universal, while each diocese has narrow discretion on setting additional ones. In every diocese in the United States there is also a requirement to attend Sunday mass once a week and make at least one good confession via the Sacrament of Reconciliation a year. Due to COVID there was some relaxation in attendance requirements, permitting at-risk individuals to attend remotely by watching the mass on TV or streaming on the net.
 

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Ummmmm.... no. You couldn't be more wrong at all.

You obviously have not been properly catechized if that is what you think the Church teaches. I strongly recommend sitting down with a good priest and discussing these sorts of things, because you are so far off base.

Catholics, in general, are required to attend at least one Mass on each day of obligation, the core holy days are set by the Vatican and are universal, while each diocese has narrow discretion on setting additional ones. In every diocese in the United States there is also a requirement to attend Sunday mass once a week and make at least one good confession via the Sacrament of Reconciliation a year. Due to COVID there was some relaxation in attendance requirements, permitting at-risk individuals to attend remotely by watching the mass on TV or streaming on the net.
That's what the Church wants and is strongly suggested, but that's not what's actually required as a minimum.

EDIT: Looked up the exact Bible quote.

Matthew 6:5-8 said:
Jesus taught, “When you pray, do not be like the hypocrites, for they love to pray standing in the synagogues and on the street corners to be seen by men … but when you pray, go into your room, close the door and pray to your father who is unseen.”
 
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Again, speak to your priest, you have not been properly catechized.
Maybe, maybe not. I don't remember and don't care if I dotted all the I's and crossed all the t's a "proper Catholic" is supposed to have done.

I did go to Catholic Schools for 12 years while growing up and the lesson I got from that: be a good person with good intentions and God will bless you no matter who you are.
 

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Christian is literally part of the name my parents gave me. If I'm not Christian, then what am I?
Probably a 'lost and wandering' sheep, to use Christian vernacular.

Do you know what the Apostle's Creed is?
 
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