Breaking News CNN Scandalized! Pope says Abortion is as bad as Nazism
I don't know what they were thinking, but I'm willing to bet that they thought they were being cute and that the courts would shut down one of their bigger opponents in the area. Or they just utterly failed at research.
Im betting on the later, I don't think the organization can possibly be that arrogant.
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The sentiments are being suppressed by engineered consent and targeted demoralisation in post-eclipse society.
CarlManvers2019
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Suppressed pretty easily due to "rebellion" becoming mainstreamed, or specifically "fuck you parents/grandparents and the rest of this country which I consider evil"
A constant and eternal revolution makes people sorta confused as to whom the real guys in charge to be putting to justice are
Even if absolutely no Pro-Life Terrorism were to occur today, they would act and speak as if they're doing massive hate crimes every week
I would be fine with this as a good compromise. It's even better as far as I'm concerned, now the potential mother can make a better informed decision.
That sounds like a delusion that doesn't actually have anything in common with reality.
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Google Engineered Consent and read The Conquest of Cool. Understand how systematically on political and economic matters since WWI and the Creel Commission people in Western Democracies have been instructed in what they want by the elites and psychologically suppressed from resistance. Read about the history of how neoliberal elites use psychological theory to target their appeals. If it’s a delusion, it’s someone else’s; I came it by reading reasoned arguments for its existence. And look up the concept of “demoralised persons” from a certain KGB defector, that’s not something I made up either.
AspblastUSA
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The underlying logic to that (not that I agree now mind, but once upon a time I did) is that the people using abortion as birth control make the argument that they don't have sufficient resources to actually care for a child, while those doing it for eugenic reasons do have the resources. Under that (skewed) reasoning, it is a morally neutral action to 'spare' a child growing up in poverty, while aborting a deformed child you had the means to care for but not the will is pure vanity.
Let me tell you, actually examining the underpinnings of your passively accepted beliefs leads to a lot of uncomfortable revelations when people have slipped stuff like this in.
Ah, so we're in wacko conspiracy theory territory now. Beware the evil atheist mind control rays!
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What does this have to do with atheism, exactly?
Arch Dornan
Oh, lovely. They've sent me a mo-ron.
I'm unsure about abortion.
On one hand the theory of pro choice in cases where it can affect the mother to be in mortal danger.
But then the stories I hear of numerous acts of sexual promiscuity that would make a normal fetish look amateurish before doing an abortion horrifies me.
On one hand the theory of pro choice in cases where it can affect the mother to be in mortal danger.
But then the stories I hear of numerous acts of sexual promiscuity that would make a normal fetish look amateurish before doing an abortion horrifies me.
Not "gotten to" that's been the status quo for the Pro-Life movement since the 1970s.
Read NPR's style guide in regards to reporting on abortion. Note how it inherently frames the terminology to favor the pro-abortion side.
The language used in reporting on the abortion debate in the US by most major media outlets is highly biased in its framing, meant exactly to marginalize the pro-life position. As such, with such a hostile media environment, the Pro-life movement has almost no margin for errors, as any misstep or wrongly worded statement will quickly be amplified by a hostile press and then used to smear not only the pro-life movement but the entire right wing, as has happened multiple times in the past.
Actually, given how California's law word in regards to that, had it been there, the tactic likely would have worked.
Something a LOT of people don't know is that tied up in the abortion debate is a series of laws that, by a simple reading of the US First Amendment SHOULD have been ruled unconstitutional, but rather, due to the rare pro-life terrorism, were instead UPHELD as reasonable restrictions on the 1st Amendment.
Basically, many states have laws that prohibit protesters from protesting within a certain radius of the entrance to an abortion clinic or approaching someone going to or from the abortion clinic within a certain distance. These distances are often so large as to basically make it so that pro-life demonstrators CANNOT effectively protest the abortion clinic as they are pushed out of sight. They also basically stop a pro-life activist from seeking to give literature or talk to a woman seeking an abortion in order to encourage them to seek alternatives. On their face, these laws SHOULD be in violation of TWO parts of the US 1st Amendment (Freedom of Speech and Freedom of Peacefully Assemble), but due to the rare cases of pro-life terrorism and the vitriol of the early debate in the 70s and 80s, these laws were upheld as "reasonable" restrictions... thus carving out special exemptions on the 1st amendment for abortion clinics.
That's kinda fucked up, though if I remember the timeline right, it was THESE cases that eventually led to the establishment of the ridiculous "Free Speech Zones" at political conventions and events, where protesters are corralled into an area away from everyone and so kept out of sight and out of mind.
Thus, the abortion clinic expecting special exemptions from other laws and the like isn't really that far fetched, since they've been granted special exemptions from the 1st Amendment!
Erwin_Pommel
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Those who make so little money they can't spare a single quid for the condom machine in the Tesco bathroom when they're out shopping apparently
That isn't a counter-argument, actually argue why you think this is lunacy and don't just toss the "conspiracy theory" label around. And really, don't try to tie religion into this, I am an atheist and I can attest to having many of the same concerns as she does. Anyways, the things she brings up are attested to in scholarship, and in fact refer to actual papers.
It isn't a crazy to say that the governments and elites are in the business of manufacturing consent. Just look at how they prop up people like Thunberg, or any of those other child "activists".
Yes, what does this have to do with atheism? If atheists can feel the same way, then it is a problem that transcends such labels or perhaps involves different categories...
Arch Dornan
Oh, lovely. They've sent me a mo-ron.
Should really use a rubber.Those who make so little money they can't spare a single quid for the condom machine in the Tesco bathroom when they're out shopping apparently
Better than birth control pills which have recently been mentioned to alter the brain.
Then the abortion. It can damage fertility and the womb from a news I read from China who took the abortion multiple times.
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Exactly so. I may use my philosophical and religious lingo to refer to modern social events, but it's quite possible, using the extensive research into them, to follow up and understand "Manufactured Consent" (Public Opinion, Lippmann,1922), "Engineered Consent" (Bernays, 1947) and the concept of anomie (Emile Durkheim). As for deracination, it is very well attested, and I will instead encourage you to read this very good summary of the concept I am alluding to, in The Wisdom of our Grandmothers:
Link being provided here. With Sr. Thinnes' argument being reproduced below:
n the past articles, I have discussed the natural Unfolding of the Ages, and how we as Axial Beings moved through the Age of Gold to the current Age of Iron, and the impact of the Patriarchal Revolution. I explained that the movement from the Age of Gold through the Age of Iron is a natural one, as natural as the changing of the seasons. It is also likely that the Patriarchal Revolution was somewhat inevitable as humanity progressed through the Age of Iron, although, it is just as likely that humanity embraced patriarchy, with its overbalanced Martial/Vikhelic influence, beyond that which was inevitable. That is a matter of speculation rather than doctrine, I think.
Now that we have been exposed to these ideas, however, I think it is time to discuss the gunas, which I believe do, to a large extent, represent choices of various societies. One way to understand the gunas is to refer back to the discussion of the symbolism of the Cross, and how that relates to Free Will. If you recall, humans have the choice day by day, minute by minute to make choices in an Upward, Outward (material), or Downward direction. Just as individuals have that choice, so do societies.
A society moving in an Upward direction is a Sattwic, or Traditional, society. In a Traditional society, every aspect of life has a spiritual dimension. For example, pottery making is as spiritual as the performance of sacred rituals. In a Traditional society, there is no separation between the spiritual and the secular. Everyone knows her place and her role in life in such a society, and these societies are generally Unanimous societies. Everyone understands and agrees on what is right and what is wrong, and it is understood that if a decision is right, everyone will know that and agree. If there is not agreement, then there is something amiss. This would be analogous to a modern scientist getting an anomalous result in an experiment. In the Age of Iron and after the Patriarchal Revolution, even Traditional societies did not fully function in the way that they may have in the past. This is shown by the often cruel and warlike nature of even Traditional societies, such as Medieval Europe. The presence of these cruelties is part of the Age of Iron and an overbalanced Martial/Vikhelic influence. It is by no means intrinsic to Traditional societies, and it is likely that earlier Traditional societies were far gentler and largely harmonious.
A society moving in an Outward direction is a Rajastic, or Normal, society. When a society moves in a Rajastic direction, its focus is on the material, outward side of life. The Classical Hellenistic period and the Renaissance period in Europe were Rajastic societies. It is in these societies that glorious works of art are created. A person from a Traditional society would likely be disturbed by the focus on the material that exists in a Normal society. Indeed, Plato criticized the Hellenistic art of his time as “making copies of copies.” This was because our human and natural form is an imperfect reflection of the Divine Perfect Form, so art imitating the natural form was a poor substitute for art which attempted to imitate the Perfect Form, or the Archetypes. Even so, in a Normal society, the connection to the Divine is not lost. While true knowledge of the higher and spiritual is often lost in the main in a Rajastic society, there is still an unconscious connection with the Divine in the material forms.
An example of this can be seen in the ritual of eating at the table. In addition to eating at a table, often plates are traditionally circles.* Circles are symbolic of the Solar Spirit, or the Divine Creative Force which is both outside of us and deep within us. While most of us do not ritually offer our food first to the Divine, as was done in Traditional societies, eating at the table, putting our food on a circular plate before eating it, and saying a form of thanks or grace, vestigially and unconsciously still invokes a ritual offering.
The connection with the higher Upward direction is quite powerful, and it remains solid as long as it is not severed. We are spiritual, rather than material, beings, so as long as nothing severs our connection with the Upward path, even if we do not understand it, the Upward will still provide a connection and will still come through in an Outward or Rajastic society.
Once the connection with the Upward and the Divine is lost, Rajastic societies are in danger being pulled down into a Tamasic, or Inverted, society. Until around the 1960’s, Western Europe and the United States were Normal societies. They were certainly materialistic, and much understanding of the spiritual meanings behind various traditions were long lost. However, the vestiges of tradition remained. In the mid-1960’s, Western society began to cut itself off from all tradition. Once the connection to the Upward Path was lost, it was only a matter of time before the Downward, Darker, and destructive forces began to take over.
In my WordPress inbox, I saw a picture that was part of a WordPress Weekly Writing Challenge: 1,000 Words. This picture is a perfect illustration of our current Inverted society. I previously discussed the poisons of our Modern Inverted Society, as explained in The Feminine Universe, in a previous article, The Outer Planets; A Theory. In that article, I gave a brief explanation of these three poisons, atomization, deracination, and deformation. This picture is a perfect illustration of all three of these poisons.
The girl is alone, which is the definition of atomization, or being cut off from other people and the community. The girl’s clothing is deracinated. It is sloppy, with little attention to any tradition or concept of beauty. Compare her clothing to the simple beauty of the Sattwic Egyptian society in the first picture and the elaborate dresses of the Rajastic Victorian Era in the second picture. See also the strange, frightening green creature on the merry-go-round the girl is sitting on. This is an example of deformation. The creature is not a natural form, like the other animals. The creature is also not representative of a Traditional archetype created in a ritual, spiritual manner. Instead, it is an inversion of True Form.
Our current society is not the first Tamasic, or Inverted, Society, and it is likely not the last. For example, the Roman Empire seems to have undergone a Tamasic period, when its focus was on bread and circuses, with bloody gladiatorial fights to entertain the masses. I do believe that individual societies have choices with respect to the gunas. Certainly, in our current world, not every society has entered into the Tamasic period to the same extent or at the same rate. The dominance of the West has spread the Tamasic poisons to the East. It remains to be seen how deep this will spread.
Japan, for example, is an interesting case, in that it has been heavily influenced by the West, but it is also spreading its own influence to the West, particularly in the form of children’s media. Almost all of the nice and sweet video games are made in Japan. Japan is also producing some very healthy and metaphysically sound children’s shows in the form of Anime. Actually, you can see this influence in the clothing worn by the girl in the above picture. On her blue jeans, there is an image of Hello Kitty, which is a sweet and wholesome Japanese image that has spread to the West like wildfire and is quite popular with little girls. Of course, the image is on sloppy and deracinated clothing, but from a feminine essentialist perspective, one can not help but hope that it is a step in the right direction.
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*In the East, there are circumstances where a rectangular plate is also used. Examples of that are sushi plates and bento boxes. Given that the East has in general retained tradition where it has been lost in the West, I think we can trust that there is a ritual significance to the rectangular form of sushi plates and bento boxes.
