Robovski
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Don't they have assisted suicide? Be the change you want to see and lead by example is what I have to say.
'Climate Change' and the coming 'Climate Lockdown'
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TheRomanSlayer
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Canada has this program too, only we call it Medical Assistance in Dying. I’m not sure if it’s true, but we even have a children’s book about it too.
I’d rather take my chances with the wild animals than to be locked up in a high tech death camp. Only the 5G towers would replace gas chambers and ovens.
Bigking321
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I've seen various people say that we are currently suffering from a noticeable lack of Co2 compared to past historical amounts and should have much more Co2 for the health of plants planet wide and such.
Any truth to that?
Any truth to that?
mrttao
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Yes. we are in a Co2 famine and are getting close to the level of most plants and all higher life forms dying due to Co2 shortage.
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Bear Ribs
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When Medical Marijuana was legalized in my state I did some investigating to see if it was worth getting into, on account of having family who'd grown it in Cali. and thus would be worth doing.
It wasn't but one thing that did stick with me is that the best grows are in sealed tents so that you can add lots of extra CO2 because there isn't enough left in the atmosphere to keep the plants in top shape.
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I found the fact that millions of growers are going to the effort of making huge tents and filling them with CO2 because their plants can't get enough from the air quite convincing. And the amount? Weed likes 1100-1300ppm. We're currently running about 400 in the atmosphere. It's also not just weed, all the plants want more CO2 than is currently available.
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They say it was 200ppm before the Industrial Revolution began. So we're doing good, people. But we need to keep it up.
LordsFire
Internet Wizard
Those are rookie numbers. We need to get those numbers up.
bintananth
behind a desk
Historically CO2 levels have been in the 170-300ppm range since before humans were a thing. We are not suffering from a CO2 shortage.
Bigking321
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The world has always been a confusing place man.
mrttao
Well-known member
He is making a clickbaity technically true statement that is avoiding answering the actual point.
4540±40 million years ago earth formed
3480 million years ago oldest bacteria fossils we found formed
239±6 million years ago dinosaur age started
66 million years ago dinosaurs went extinct due to Chicxulub asteroid impact
2 million years ago Proto-humans first formed from other apes
0.3 million years ago Actual Humans formed
If CO2 levels dip below 150 ppm all complex vegetation dies, resulting in all multi cellular life dying.
If CO2 goes above 4000 ppm humans start dying from CO2 poisoning.
CO2 has been steadily dropping over the years.
140 million years ago it was 2500 ppm and has been steadily dropping since.
We are about to enter a new ice age, one that would have probably caused CO2 to drop below 150 ppm and exterminated all multicellular life on earth.
Luckily, humans came along and raised CO2 levels. Probably saving complex life on earth in the process.
Climate cultists are reeeing that CO2 rose from 182 to 417 ppm
You get news articles like "CO2 is highest it has been in 2.7 million years"... the reason they don't use a round number is that this when it dropped at the current level. 3 million years ago it was higher. 10 million even higher still, 20 million even higher still, etc. the further back you go the higher it was.
Also, rather then burning fossil fuel a bigger issue is that we cleared out so many forests. Which limits recapture.
But "plant forests" and "use industrial farming to free up more forestland" does not fit their agenda of instituting neo feudalism.
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He is making a clickbaity technically true statement that is avoiding answering the actual point.
4540±40 million years ago earth formed
3480 million years ago oldest bacteria fossils we found formed
239±6 million years ago dinosaur age started
66 million years ago dinosaurs went extinct due to Chicxulub asteroid impact
2 million years ago Proto-humans first formed from other apes
0.3 million years ago Actual Humans formed
If CO2 levels dip below 150 ppm all complex vegetation dies, resulting in all multi cellular life dying.
If CO2 goes above 4000 ppm humans start dying from CO2 poisoning.
CO2 has been steadily dropping over the years.
140 million years ago it was 2500 ppm and has been steadily dropping since.
We are about to enter a new ice age, one that would have probably caused CO2 to drop below 150 ppm and exterminated all multicellular life on earth.
Luckily, humans came along and raised CO2 levels. Probably saving complex life on earth in the process.
You get news articles like "CO2 is highest it has been in 2.7 million years"... the reason they don't use a round number is that this when it dropped at the current level.
Also, I would guess that the reason it actually went up is that we cleared out so many forests. instead of
so basically the industrial revolution saved the earth.
Bigking321
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Where did all the Co2 go?
Trapped underground in coal and oil?
Trapped underground in coal and oil?
mrttao
Well-known member
Yes.
And saying this is the ultimate heresy to the climate cultists.
Also, their assertions are just silly
> If Co2 goes to 400 ppm we will get a runaway greenhouse event that will destroy all life on earth!
> 10 years later. we are at 417 and it didn't happen
> for hundreds of millions of years we had over 2000 ppm and it didn't happen
mrttao
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I am not aware of anyone having properly studied exactly where all the CO2 went.
since it is Heresy of the highest order to even admit it ever existed in the first place.
I would think fossil fuels are a big sequestering storage.
Lots of it is still around in the form of biomass. As most biomass is made up of hydrocarbons.
Other naturally forming carbon compounds count too.
Some might have been lost to space but I have no idea how much. I know this is a major issue with helium. But Co2 is much heavier than helium.
No, that means that the atmospheric CO2 shortage would be something that long predated humanity. Remember those old charts and whatnot saying "if all of the Earth's history was a year, humans would have arrived in the last few minutes before The End" type stuff?
Without the Industrial Revolution, that would be close to the literal truth.
Bigking321
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Well... yes.
They claim Co2 is a pollutant instead of being a utterly essential part of the planets life cycle.
It's like saying "oh no! The oceans have too much water in them! Quick, use the government to stop people from using water otherwise the oceans will kill us all!"
mrttao
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My favorite is when they wanted to literally use nukes to melt the ice caps to stop man made global cooling.
"we must act now! there is no time to lose! if we do not act immediately humanity is doomed!"
"The science is settled! there is scientific consensus! All scientists agree that we are doomed by man made global cooling"
The 1970s were wild
CO2 that was once part of the biosphere, getting buried as plant and animal matter. So coal and petroleum.
But also many types of rock contain Carbon - Limestone for example. Or chalk.
Without human intervention, once Carbon gets buried the main factor putting it back into the atmosphere would be volcanoes.
Funny how those sort of people sooner or late start pushing for actions that would create the problems they are warning against. Everything that they claim would happen if they don't get their way - will actually happen if - and sometimes only if - they do get their way.