Child Trafficking in the Developing World and the West

Okay, I’ll give you that, if you’re gonna do an abortion, do it early as possible

How hard is it to notice you’re pregnant until its near birth? Besides, if you won’t raise him/her, give away to the orphanage

Oh wait, I think there was some lady who went to the toilet and suddenly went into labor years ago

We can agree on that, at least. Anything more, and this becomes an abortion thread. I'd be happy to make a thread on that if you're willing to discuss this further.
 
They are driven to do that. If they don't, they'd have to admit they regret it.
It gives me a sense of dread. They're fostering a culture of killing their children in the womb and being proud of it.

What happens when suddenly they want children? If they got lucky and had one what if the child finds out about their mother's beliefs on social media? That will fuck them up.
 
It gives me a sense of dread. They're fostering a culture of killing their children in the womb and being proud of it.

What happens when suddenly they want children? If they got lucky and had one what if the child finds out about their mother's beliefs on social media? That will fuck them up.

To begin with, they already live in a culture wherein ladies prioritize getting a career and being “Strong Independent WAHMEN” over something more “traditional” and will probably be too old to be pretty let alone fertile enough for it

Or probably even have the personality that’d attract men

We can agree on that, at least. Anything more, and this becomes an abortion thread. I'd be happy to make a thread on that if you're willing to discuss this further.

It’s okay, no need for that. Thanks though.

That said, things like sex slaves and human trafficking, especially for the rich douchebags in my opinion isn’t just for sexual desires

But to satisfy the sort of mental egos people in power have

People get off being able to get away with all sorts of shit without anyone else knowing or stopping them

Hell, it’s that people disapprove that probably “turns them on” the most. That’s not something even sex with a prostitute can satiate unless they’re allowed to beat the crap out of them.
 

Besides, I take a more Ayn Rand take on fetuses anyhow
So? That doesn't change the fact that it's an innocent life that's being killed. And you're okay with this evil act.
Again, you see making kids transgender as evil but killing an unborn baby okay.
 
Let's not make this an abortion thread boys and girls. Anyway I'd say you hit the nail on the head. The powers that be have no interest in stopping thier pleasure flow.
 
Let's not make this an abortion thread boys and girls. Anyway I'd say you hit the nail on the head. The powers that be have no interest in stopping thier pleasure flow.

I think even if they weren’t in the business, it wouldn’t be something they’d like talking about unless they can somehow use it as a weapon or talking point

If organized crime, especially by non-whites were involved in doing it, like in Europe, they’d avoid talking about it lest it endanger their political power
 
You just showed your hypocrisy. You always post about how making kids transgender is evil but killing an unborn baby is not. Huh.
Um, no, I'm also pro-life (post about 8 weeks, as that's when I think life begins, I've discussed this elsewhere. If people want to continue this, I suggest this thread, or another if we are talking about the morality of abortion itself). I specifically noted that it's unethical in my post and called it murder. How the hell you got anything else out of it is beyond me.

I'm just noting your argument (that abortions cause sex trafficking) is so obviously wrong the statement argues against itself. If a baby is aborted, the child cannot be trafficked. Abortion prevalence decreases child sex trafficking. Now it's not a moral solution by any means, any more than curing cancer with a gunshot to the forehead, but just because two things are evil doesn't make them linked.
 
Okay, I’ll give you that, if you’re gonna do an abortion, do it early as possible

You posted this video of Desmond every chance you have.



Yet, you're okay with this.




Let's not make this an abortion thread boys and girls. Anyway I'd say you hit the nail on the head. The powers that be have no interest in stopping thier pleasure flow.
I get what you're saying, Lamandragon, but there's a connection between child trafficking and abortion. Especially, when a child gets pregnant:


 
The existence of things like Organized Crime and Black Markets are OCPs to that line of thought regarding how powerful and always-followed certain laws are, let alone ones involving stuff like guns
I think America needs a treason like statutory offense for state and federal officials aiding, abetting, or excusing organized crime.
 
Um, no, I'm also pro-life (post about 8 weeks, as that's when I think life begins, I've discussed this elsewhere. If people want to continue this, I suggest this thread, or another if we are talking about the morality of abortion itself). I specifically noted that it's unethical in my post and called it murder. How the hell you got anything else out of it is beyond me.

I'm just noting your argument (that abortions cause sex trafficking) is so obviously wrong the statement argues against itself. If a baby is aborted, the child cannot be trafficked. Abortion prevalence decreases child sex trafficking. Now it's not a moral solution by any means, any more than curing cancer with a gunshot to the forehead, but just because two things are evil doesn't make them linked.
I did not say abortion causes sex trafficking. I said if society is willing to kill life in the womb, people are also willing to traffic children. They also play into one another. Children who are trafficked are forced by their pimps to have abortions.
 
I did not say abortion causes sex trafficking. I said if society is willing to kill life in the womb, people are also willing to traffic children. They also play into one another. Children who are trafficked are forced by their pimps to have abortions.
They really don't play into one another. People who do abortions don't view the baby as alive, and generally view themselves as doctors. People who traffic in people aren't doing it because they think its good, but because of money or lust. There are totally different motivations.

As for children getting abortions, these would happen regardless of whether abortion was legal. In fact, it would be easier for them to get abortions if abortions were illegal, because the abortionist couldn't report them, as some would do otherwise. Remember, abortionists view themselves as pro-women, and are mandatory reporters, being doctors. Abortions also massively reduce child trafficking, as there are less children, especially unwanted/poor children.

None of this justifies abortion, as that's murder, but two things can be wrong without them being linked.

One of the biggest solution to sex trafficking (at least for the trafficking of adults and older teens, though it has knock on effects on child prostitution) is legalizing prostitution. This has a ton of positive benefits. First, it removes much of the financial incentive (much like legalizing drugs). The issue with banning prostitution and cracking down on it is that the end result increases the profitability for those who are left, and thus increases the attractiveness of dealing in people. Second, it empowers prostitutes so they don't need pimps to operate. Much of the 'work' a pimp does is ensure that the cops don't come down on prostitutes, and without this necessity, and with prostitutes able to report the pimp to the cops without fear of arrest, pimping will die out about as fast as illegal weed dealing in Colorado. Third, this has a knock on effect on child prostitution. The same pimps who traffic in adults are usually also trafficking in kids. If demand for illegal prostitution declines, so does the job market for traffickers in general. It won't eliminate it, but it will reduce it.

There is currently a senator in California who wants to legalize pedistry.
State senator, but yes.
 
To begin with, they already live in a culture wherein ladies prioritize getting a career and being “Strong Independent WAHMEN” over something more “traditional” and will probably be too old to be pretty let alone fertile enough for it

Or probably even have the personality that’d attract men



It’s okay, no need for that. Thanks though.

That said, things like sex slaves and human trafficking, especially for the rich douchebags in my opinion isn’t just for sexual desires

But to satisfy the sort of mental egos people in power have

People get off being able to get away with all sorts of shit without anyone else knowing or stopping them

Hell, it’s that people disapprove that probably “turns them on” the most. That’s not something even sex with a prostitute can satiate unless they’re allowed to beat the crap out of them.
They get away with minor business corruption, tax evasion, various 'minor' felonies that their political pals take care of for them. As they get richer, the crimes grow increasingly major until one day they meet an Epstein, who leads them to a room with a fourteen year old girl. Now they are part of the 'establishment.'
 
I came upon an organization called Our Rescue (or Operation Undergound Railroad) and I cannot help but be struck by how, in their news posts on instagram, many of the customers and the traffickers are Westerners. However, When Leftists moan about oppression and intersectionality, they never talk about sex trafficking beyond, maybe, paying lip service as an avenue to attack men, white people, etc. They never actually put any energy in trying to stop it like they do when they try to give children sex hormones. This, along with the issue with Epstein, has me asking how much this is rooted in the institutional corruption that has infected the West. I wouldn't be surprised if there are a lot of Epsteins we don't know about, all with dirt on the establishment.

How deep does it really go?

That's because paedophiles are a "poor, oppressed minority". Don't you know that age is just as fluid as gender? So a grown man can "identify" as a little boy / girl for "the purpose". In some other thread here on this forum we've had a Twitter post quoted indicating just that.
After all "love does not discriminate"... Here in Poland we've had a left wing philosopher claim "we should see about legalising incest", so there you go.
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That's because paedophiles are a "poor, oppressed minority". Don't you know that age is just as fluid as gender? So a grown man can "identify" as a little boy / girl for "the purpose". In some other thread here on this forum we've had a Twitter post quoted indicating just that.
After all "love does not discriminate"... Here in Poland we've had a left wing philosopher claim "we should see about legalising incest", so there you go.
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And that's why I stopped being LOLbiterian a while ago.
 
They get away with minor business corruption, tax evasion, various 'minor' felonies that their political pals take care of for them. As they get richer, the crimes grow increasingly major until one day they meet an Epstein, who leads them to a room with a fourteen year old girl. Now they are part of the 'establishment.'

That’s a thing the Black Market and Organized Crime provides, it’s something that is so that even if the customer base is “small” the fact said minority of people with such extreme desires are extremely rich and actually want to specifically get away with things they know in their hearts & minds to be wrong, is something which really gets their rocks off

It’s like a vampire rejecting blood donations or going to the blood bank, simply because getting it from actual people fulfills more sadistic desires, even if it’s more practical to do the lesser action
 
That’s a thing the Black Market and Organized Crime provides, it’s something that is so that even if the customer base is “small” the fact said minority of people with such extreme desires are extremely rich and actually want to specifically get away with things they know in their hearts & minds to be wrong, is something which really gets their rocks off

It’s like a vampire rejecting blood donations or going to the blood bank, simply because getting it from actual people fulfills more sadistic desires, even if it’s more practical to do the lesser action
I never understood this until I met a real member of the modern American aristocracy. They have no respect, no patriotisim and no interest in the old meritocracy. They are every bit as evil and depraved as you can imagine. In fact most of them aren't even American.
 

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