were at the begining stages of the fall of the republic not the fall of rome.
Our civilization still has a couple centuries of life in it, hopefully we leave behind good successor states before we actually fall.
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were at the begining stages of the fall of the republic not the fall of rome.
Our civilization still has a couple centuries of life in it, hopefully we leave behind good successor states before we actually fall.
mrttao
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1. Healthy religion instead of Woke Cultists
2. Non demoralized populace
3. Men who were not all psychologically castrated
4. Only men allowed to vote
5. Cultural unity.
6. Lack of various technologies that make it harder to be spied on and arrested for wrongthink.
and probably a few more things.
mrttao
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Ha, no. those will be snuffed out for being "nazies" (translation: anyone who isn't a woke cultist).
You and me? we are going to the gulag
The woke movement is a movement with roughly 20 more years of life in it max.
Its a movement that burns through money and resources at a horrific rate and destroys the economics of any system its in incredibly fast. Its a movement where its practitioners rarely have children and often sterialize the ones they do have. On top of that they are emptying and hollowing out their power bases major cities incredibly quickly.
This is a movement that is building the coalition that will destroy it.
A lot of us will most likely die in the process yes, but their quite simply put so bad at managing things and so disconnected from reality that their going to spend their time playing a civilizational wide game of wack a mole. Only the more they keep hitting people the more moles they have to wack.
Don't get me wrong they have murdered people and will continue to burn loot and kill people, but their so self destructive that they destroy their power bases in their zeal. Their purity spiral also creates defectors defectors who have been personally attacked and now want revenge. It creates enemies who want revenge.
This is the high water mark of their power, and my guess is that the establishment sells them down the river to the mob to be murdered to perserve their power for a few decades more with in our life times.
mrttao
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They have total and complete control over all child education in all of western society.
We just got news that the teacher union voted to get rid of white teachers.
Do they destroy everything they touch? absolutely.
But with total control over the systems of government...
education, banking, communication...
Well, just take a look at mao, stalin, and pot pol. Were they deposed? And they didn't even modern surveillance and communication tools
They keep on setting honeypots for anyone willing to actually fight them, then take them out. Meanwhile they keep on brainwashing children with lies and flat out distort history.
Little timmy in K12 will be learning that "the reason the economy is trashed is evil conservative subhuman old white men spread the plague which broke the economy". While repeatedly being drilled on woke mantras in class. And told to snitch on his parents if they object because that makes them evil terrorists.
Little timmy is never going to hear a dissenting opinion. As those are rapidly shut down for being Evil Nazies via swat raids. If they are not just shut down by having banks steal their money (see gab and other alternative media)
KilroywasNOTHere
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A. you realize much of what inspired the nazis has it's roots in america right? B. there was this whole Anglo vs Irish and chinaman thing going on
dude we just finished a civil war the entire south was in chaos. You don't think people were demoralized back then?
I'm sorry but but if your "psychologically castrated" who's fault is that? You can't control the tides, but you can control how you react to them. at some point either cast your weight aside or let go use your experiences to make yourself stronger.
It wasn't so many men only as much as it was home or business oweners were only allowed to vote, it was more like one vote per houshold with the man repersenting his house. I'd be for going back to one vote per houshold regardless of which gender repersents said household.
see my response to point 1.
No they just had lynch mobs private hit squads masquerading as P.Is and suspension of habious corpus.
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The soviet union fell, Pol pot fell, when Mao died the survivors pretty much exicuted the gang of four to end the madness, and the current situation with the chi coms is likely to end with China's emolation.
Police states are expensive as fuck and are even more expensive when your an asshole, and like I said the movement against them has been born and is getting stronger and angier. This is not a movement that will last generations this is a movement that collapses society and then gets murdered by enraged survivors.
mrttao
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I think you forgot the conversation. We were talking about healthy successor states to western society, and/or rebellion to depose the woke cult.
Mao, Stalin, and Pot Pol didn't fall to a rebellion. And their enemies were not allowed to form successor states.
Stalin died to a stroke, after decades of absolute rulership.
Mao died to a heart attack, after decades of absolute rulership.
Pot pol was taken out by his own party members while he was trying to dispose of them.
Stalin and Mao in particular prove it is entirely possible for an utter moron to rule in absolute tyranny as they grind down a nation into the dirt until they die of old age.
The woke cultists are very happy to use the methods of tyranny.
They have much better technology to facilitate those with.
As an actual religious cult they do not rely on a single point of failure, as there will always be newly brainwashed recruits for their cult so long as they maintain their death grip over child brainwashing facilities.
In fact the woke cult keeps on claiming to democratic. Ones where the figureheads keep on rotating. A never-ending stream of new recruits into the cult.
While it is possible they will just fail and collapse. the odds are not in our favor.
They will never allow you to form successor states or just check out of their society.
And they will clamp down hard on attempted rebellions.
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mrttao
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Gab, an attempt for conservatives to have a voice.
First, they deplatformed it, so they self hosted
Then, they banned it from all banking platforms and stole its money. So they started relying on checks. The only thing they could use to get money.
Now the next step. They are directly persecuting them.
news.gab.com
First, they deplatformed it, so they self hosted
Then, they banned it from all banking platforms and stole its money. So they started relying on checks. The only thing they could use to get money.
Now the next step. They are directly persecuting them.
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The One Char
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They also didn't have to deal with 60+ million gun owners while only about a million plus men at arms. I'll let the pic explain.
Your also assuming that their not gonna fuck this up.
Look man you're black pilling and need to chill.
mrttao
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1. disarmament happened in australia, it happened canada, and it has been happening nonstop in the usa for many many decades. Step by step. They just took a big bite out of the ammo market too.
2. you are assuming those 60 million are your allies. Woke cultists are everywhere because they have total control over the school system. Are you going to shoot your son? your brother? We saw that with the jan 6th debacle where so many people were turned over to the cops by members of their own family.
3. And here is where surveillance tech shines. They are not going to have a soldier in every street corner checking your papers. Instead they will use cameras, and social media. Only when dissenters are flagged will they get swatted. And you won't even hear about it, the news won't cover it. If someone tries to mention it... they will be deplatformed. At best it will become yet another "conspiracy theory"
4. where are those 60 million gun owners right now? how many of them are marching to liberate the jan 6th political prisoners? none, that is how many.
You will sit comfortable at home with your guns, growing older and bitter and weak. While they keep on brainwashing your children in K12 woke cult centers
I am not.
I am not arguing they will succeed no matter what. I am arguing against the claim that they are bound to fail no matter what and we do not even need to do anything.
I am saying this is going to be a very very hard battle. One that will not be won by just sitting on your ass at home and waiting for them to fail on their own.
This will be a very hard battle I put the time frame of all of this ending around 80 years from now.
But I think its going to see saw for awhile, with a growing populist movement getting more and more victories dispite the current establishment getting more and more tyranical and horrible.
But I think its going to see saw for awhile, with a growing populist movement getting more and more victories dispite the current establishment getting more and more tyranical and horrible.
The One Char
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None of the thing you have mentioned have really worked out for the left, every time they try they get pushback. There is a less than one percent overlap between owning a gun and being woke. Th reason no one is trying to liberate the 1/6 prisoners is because a)That would make them look like the bad guys. b)It's made the democrats look stupid.
mrttao
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Worked fantastically for them.
Their instability does not come from any of the above. It comes from their ineptitude in other fields. If they didn't destroy the economy nobody would be complaining.
KilroywasNOTHere
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eh hem? Funny because I remember you saying a certain something...ah here it is.
pot meet kettle?
mrttao
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I am talking from experience here.
KilroywasNOTHere
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you know what I was going to make this huge post about how I'm sick of blackpillers but I think this short clip from return of the king expresses my thoughts towards people like you better than my words can.
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The One Char
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Everything they do makes them look stupid. The 1/6 thing has only made them look craven a stupid. The MAL raid has ruined the FBI's credibility. The Uvalde narrative went up in smoke when a good guy with a gun stopped a mass shooting. And a million other things that have backfired. The problem is you're still somewhat brainwashed, you see them stronger than they are.
mrttao
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Rather than me being blackpilled, you are having an overly optimistic view where you think they will just effortlessly self defeat.
I haven't even HEARD of uvalde until now. And you say it makes them look stupid, yet they are still going full steam ahead on it. It is going to be the new reality going forwards.
The mal raid is just the latest thing. What happened to the FBI being pro antifa and anti patriots 2 years ago? what happened to the FBI cracking down on parents who oppose the grooming of their children?
The FBI being partisan is nothing new.
The biggest threat to their rule is the economy. They are simply fucking it up too hard. If there is one thing that might bring them down, it is that.
The One Char
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How the hell did you not hear of Uvalde? Christ.
You seem to refuse to understand that they are pissing normal people off AND you seem to think they have infinite amounts of political capital.
You seem to refuse to understand that they are pissing normal people off AND you seem to think they have infinite amounts of political capital.