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I always respec Shadowheart into a war domain cleric, Doing that makes her into a decent frontliner which is useful when you yourself play as a sorcerer or something.
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I always respec Shadowheart into a war domain cleric, Doing that makes her into a decent frontliner which is useful when you yourself play as a sorcerer or something.
I refuse to respec Shadowheart just for party optimization as it really undercuts her character story. I will repsec her after certain events in Act 2 if she goes down the good path, but still not to War domain...
Domains are granted by a the god that sponsors the cleric, and neither Shar nor Selune have War domain last I checked. 5e's severing of Domain choice and deity choice is one of the worst design decisions ever made (along with Paladin oaths, Sorcerer spells know progression, and the entire Ranger class). But then, DnD has been designing more and more for the lowest common denominator which means making it so people don't have restrictions on what they can do.
Carrot of Truth
War is Peace
My problem is that Trickster domain is absolute dogshit.
Yes, is it a surprise that an evil god would give shit tier magic, when they don't value their followers?
Buba
A total creep
@S'task
thumbs up for lore/RP fidelity.
You are a better person than I.
I do not respecify the Origins, as non-optimised as they are, limiting myself to multiclassing. The exception being Karlach (which I leave with original attributes) - I understand her anger managment issues, but in my eyes she should be a Fighter not a Barbarian, she street urchin not some savage tribal, and Minthara (where I do change her stats - I'm such a lowly min maxer, voe is is me! My excuse is that the experience with the Gnome Twins "deeply affected" her, making CHA migrate to STR and CON
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I perceive Paladins as having some sort of link with deities, hence their Clerical Spells. So, after peeing over Lollth and pooping over Absolute, I see no source for Divine Spells for Best Drow.
thumbs up for lore/RP fidelity.
You are a better person than I.
I do not respecify the Origins, as non-optimised as they are, limiting myself to multiclassing. The exception being Karlach (which I leave with original attributes) - I understand her anger managment issues, but in my eyes she should be a Fighter not a Barbarian, she street urchin not some savage tribal, and Minthara (where I do change her stats - I'm such a lowly min maxer, voe is is me! My excuse is that the experience with the Gnome Twins "deeply affected" her, making CHA migrate to STR and CON
).I perceive Paladins as having some sort of link with deities, hence their Clerical Spells. So, after peeing over Lollth and pooping over Absolute, I see no source for Divine Spells for Best Drow.
In a computer game it is underwhelming. In a pnp campaign it might be fantastic.
Carrot of Truth
War is Peace
It's pretty underwhelming and inferior to the other domains in PnP too. In PnP people always go for life domain death domain or war domain
Oh, with other characters who do not have such strong storyline connections to their class I have no qualms about respeccing them. Shadowheart just has such a strong and compelling story I find I enjoy it more if I wait to respec her to Healing domain after certain storyline events take place (though I still keep her Cleric, because, well... obviously she's still a Cleric it's just her Patron has changed even if she doesn't realize it for a while). Karlach being a great example of such, there's no strict lore reason for her to be a barbarian, she could well be a Fighter as you note, a Barbarian as she is normally set up as, or even a Ranger, so I respec her to whatever I feel like would be more fun to have her be. Wyll obvious has to stay as his nearly worthless Warlock self, though I am glad that BG3 actually shows WHY Warlock is such a shit caster class from a RP perspective*.@S'task
thumbs up for lore/RP fidelity.
You are a better person than I.
I do not respecify the Origins, as non-optimised as they are, limiting myself to multiclassing. The exception being Karlach (which I leave with original attributes) - I understand her anger managment issues, but in my eyes she should be a Fighter not a Barbarian, she street urchin not some savage tribal, and Minthara (where I do change her stats - I'm such a lowly min maxer, voe is is me! My excuse is that the experience with the Gnome Twins "deeply affected" her, making CHA migrate to STR and CON
I perceive Paladins as having some sort of link with deities, hence their Clerical Spells. So, after peeing over Lollth and pooping over Absolute, I see no source for Divine Spells for Best Drow.
In a computer game it is underwhelming. In a pnp campaign it might be fantastic.
That said, since I run a bunch of mods that add additional feats and spells I often respec characters even if I'm keeping them as their base class and spec just to change up their feats and maybe better optimize their attribute point spend.
One thing that works surprisingly well is to have Gale dip a few levels into Rogue to pick up the trap feats. That way I can leave Asterion back in camp and since I mainly play as a Sorcerer that gives me a nice goody two shoes party of myself, Karlach, Shadowheart, and Gale.
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* I'll grant I have a bit of an undue dislike of Warlock due to my favorite Arcane class since 3rd being Sorcerer. I also like playing sword and spell builds (AKA "Gish") and the fact there's no baseline Sorcerer Gish build is something that greatly bothers me, especially given that when I mention that to people so many folks go: well, if you want to play a Cha Melee Arcanist play Warlock and so Wyll being so obviously screwed over due to being a Warlock is nice because it allows me to point out how crap being a Warlock really is...
Buba
A total creep
Rogue is one route for that.
Another, aligning with my AC obsession
, is Ranger, with Ranger Knight Favoured Enemy and Urban Tracker Natural Explorer. This gave me Gale with AC 20/21 at lvl 5. But using Ranger or Rogue "robs" me of at least one level of ESL, hence ATM me favourite manner of having an anybody but Astarion as the Party Sapper (and Spellcaster) is dipping into Bard. That gives me the Proficiency and I keep the full ESL.
Or I use the lovely Kree Derryck Hireling whose Charlatan Background provides Sleigh of Hand Proficiency regardless of the Class I respecify her into.
The latter is what I have in my current playthrough aka Princess Karlach and the Three Dwarvettes - i.e. Tav and the two apropriate hirelings.
The height difference between the trio of pettite and dainty Khazad and the Tiefling is a hoot
True about Shadowheart - she is a PRIESTESS with dreams of Paladin (in the sence of Cult Enforcer). Making her anything ese is travesty
I remember reading a comment that in BG1 we had a clearly identified MC - the Bhallspawn and their quest, whereas in BG3 the issue is somewhat muddled. I sometimes wonder if mabe having Shadowheart as the MC may have been a god idea.
Blasterbot
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My holdover from all the Neverwinter nights games is the PC has to be party face. so he is always someone who can work Charisma into his build. usually means I end up playing bard or paladin and sometimes go into warlock, sorc, or cleric. the other party members aren't optimized but can be fine. I just don't work well with like half the party for whatever reason. Can't handle Lael. Asterion despite being stupid strong as an option for the party is a miss for me. Shadowheart is just... yeah I can't put up with girls IRL who try half that shit. pretending to be just the right amount of interested without being too pushy on her secrets is a pain to tightrope walk in conversations. party is Karloch, Gale, and Wyll generally.