ASOIAF/GOT ASOIAF Ideas, Recs, and Discussion thread

[TheRomanSlayer]

I do not think so. Vlad Dragonling (that's what Dracula means) was no communist or crazy murdering people at will.
IMO he'd run rings around the Westerosi opposition and end up as Roose the Great, King in Da Norff.

But flaying people alive was just as terrible as impaling people alive.

Come to think of it, the Boltons were formerly known as the Red Kings, so technically if the Boltons took over, they would be the Red King in the North. He'd be a bit more cunning than Tywin, if he was equipped with Vlad Tepes's abilities. The Red Wedding is practically the Westerosi version of Vlad Tepes's arrests of the nobles that were responsible for his father's death.

 

[Buba]

Vlad impaled rebels and Turkish soldiers (murderers, rapists and slavers putting Wildlings, Dothraki or Bay of Slavers polities to shame) - both valid targets. Not random tax paying peasants. He was no Ramsay or Khmer Rouge.

 

[UberIguana]

Reccing Canucks. A squad of Canadian infantry plus their tracked carrier are ISOTed north of the wall while on exercises. Things quickly start going off the rails with not a butterfly net in sight. Probably the best ASoIaF ISOT fic I've read.

 

[Aldarion]

Two of my favorites:

Ghosts and Dreams - Chapter 1 - Miss_Sketchi - A Song of Ice and Fire - George R. R. Martin [Archive of Our Own]

An Archive of Our Own, a project of the Organization for Transformative Works

archiveofourown.org

Valar Botis (All Men Must Endure) - Chapter 1 - sanva - Game of Thrones (TV) [Archive of Our Own]

An Archive of Our Own, a project of the Organization for Transformative Works

archiveofourown.org

Basically "what ifs" Young Griff was actually Aegon VI, he was Jon Snow's older brother and two of them met before the War of the Five Kings.

Both dead fics, I'm afraid...

EDIT:

Regarding Roose Bolton, he's a bit pragmatic, but if given the abilities of Vlad Tepes, he'd literally turn the Dreadfort into a literal butcher shop.

Which is just as horrific as an idea of Tywin remaining Aerys's Hand of the King and surviving long enough to try and wed Cersei to Roose Bolton, and then plot the downfall of the Starks and put a half-lion, half-flayed man as ruler of the North. From any kind of viewpoint, Roose could teach Cersei how to flay people, which she would definitely take like a fish in the water, and Cersei would give birth to a child that is a fusion of both Joffrey and Ramsay.

Going back to this, IIRC peasants actually loved Vlad Tepes since he had protected them from the boyars...

 

[Jormungandr]

Two of my favorites:

Ghosts and Dreams - Chapter 1 - Miss_Sketchi - A Song of Ice and Fire - George R. R. Martin [Archive of Our Own]

An Archive of Our Own, a project of the Organization for Transformative Works

archiveofourown.org

Valar Botis (All Men Must Endure) - Chapter 1 - sanva - Game of Thrones (TV) [Archive of Our Own]

An Archive of Our Own, a project of the Organization for Transformative Works

archiveofourown.org

Basically "what ifs" Young Griff was actually Aegon VI, he was Jon Snow's older brother and two of them met before the War of the Five Kings.

Both dead fics, I'm afraid...

EDIT:

Going back to this, IIRC peasants actually loved Vlad Tepes since he had protected them from the boyars...

...I kinda want to see an ISOT where Vlad and Transylvania are transported to the North, and he ends up going all Impaler.

 

[TheRomanSlayer]

House Draculesti becomes a Northern house? The Bolton's would be a happy house to match them, assuming either Roose has a daughter or Vlad Tepeš has a daughter.

Or even better: House Draculesti becomes the leader of the Wildlings and goes on a rampage against the Night's Watch.

 

[Jormungandr]

House Draculesti becomes a Northern house? The Bolton's would be a happy house to match them, assuming either Roose has a daughter or Vlad Tepeš has a daughter.

Or even better: House Draculesti becomes the leader of the Wildlings and goes on a rampage against the Night's Watch.

IIRC, a true to historical Vlad would be disgusted by the Boltons, and he'd probably end up flaying them alive.

Vlad was a sadistic bastard because he had to be, not that he wanted to be. Impaling Muslim troops sent a message.

The Boltons are just cruel and sadistic by nature.

I do like the idea of a Stark visiting Vlad's castle, only to see the Boltons flayed and impaled outside the gates, heh.

 

[TheRomanSlayer]

IIRC, a true to historical Vlad would be disgusted by the Boltons, and he'd probably end up flaying them alive.

Vlad was a sadistic bastard because he had to be, not that he wanted to be. Impaling Muslim troops sent a message.

The Boltons are just cruel and sadistic by nature.

I do like the idea of a Stark visiting Vlad's castle, only to see the Boltons flayed and impaled outside the gates, heh.

I don't know if the Starks would also approve of impaling people though, given that they also disapprove flaying people alive.

Vlad meeting Tywin on the other hand, now that's a different story. I'd imagine Vlad and Cersei married together. She'd be called Bloody Cersei if she starts impaling anyone she didn't like (ie: Tyrion).

 

[The Immortal Watch Dog]

Reccing Canucks. A squad of Canadian infantry plus their tracked carrier are ISOTed north of the wall while on exercises. Things quickly start going off the rails with not a butterfly net in sight. Probably the best ASoIaF ISOT fic I've read.

That's good shit man.

 

[The Immortal Watch Dog]

IIRC, a true to historical Vlad would be disgusted by the Boltons, and he'd probably end up flaying them alive.

Vlad was a sadistic bastard because he had to be, not that he wanted to be. Impaling Muslim troops sent a message.

The Boltons are just cruel and sadistic by nature.

I do like the idea of a Stark visiting Vlad's castle, only to see the Boltons flayed and impaled outside the gates, heh.

Vlad also gave a shit about his subjects and was famous for reducing things like street crime in his towns and cities and graft and banditry out in the country side.

He'd be absolutely livid about how badly his peers have neglected their gentry as well IIRC since he was kinda big on cultivating wealth.

Honestly he'd probably be much more a Manderly or Stark ally than the Boltons who as has been noted would be seen as crooks and lunatics.

 

[TheRomanSlayer]

Also worth noting that Vlad would easily outplay the Freys in terms of treachery. On the other hand, the Targaryens would be desperate to have Vlad as an ally too.

 

[Abhorsen]

Eh, outplaying the Freys isn't hard. It's not that they were really good at betrayal, they were just willing to sink to new lows. Basically, they exploited a one time OoC problem that permanently established them as pariahs and are actively being hunted down by a variety of sources (or Arya murdering them all and making Walder eat them in the show, which was awesome).

Tywin, in contrast, is great at treachery. Him knowing when to turn coat vs the Targs was key.

 

[TheRomanSlayer]

Eh, outplaying the Freys isn't hard. It's not that they were really good at betrayal, they were just willing to sink to new lows. Basically, they exploited a one time OoC problem that permanently established them as pariahs and are actively being hunted down by a variety of sources (or Arya murdering them all and making Walder eat them in the show, which was awesome).

Tywin, in contrast, is great at treachery. Him knowing when to turn coat vs the Targs was key.

That was only because of how much he was humiliated by Aerys. Tywin only bided his time until his forces started sacking King's Landing and Jaime stabbed Aerys in the back.

I had a weird idea that I posted on another forum back then, which would be a huge set of ISOTs from Westeros to our world: To be precise, the castles are ISOTed to Earth as of June 25, 1521 (the Ottoman Siege of Belgrade carried out by Suleiman the Magnificent). How will Europe or Asia react to such appearances? Here are the houses that end up in the OTL world:

1) Winterfell and House Stark ends up in the same position as Auchenharvie Castle, somewhere in North Ayrshire, Scotland.

2) Casterly Rock and House Lannister ends up in the same position as Chinon Castle, in Chinon, France.

3) Highgarden and House Tyrell ends up in the same position as Ogrodzienec Castle, in the region of the Polish Jura, Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth. Around the town of Podzamcze.

4) Riverrun and House Tully ends up in the same position as Kalemegdan Fortress, in Belgrade (Nándorfehérvár, Kingdom of Hungary)

5) The Eyrie and House Arryn ends up in the same position as Neuschwanstein Castle, in Hohenschwangau, Duchy of Bavaria

6) Sunspear and House Martell ends up in the same position as the Ark of Bukhara, in the Khanate of Bukhara. More precisely, around Samarkand.

7) Dragonstone and House Baratheon (Stannis Baratheon) ends up in the same position as Kantara Castle, in Famagusta, Cyprus. (then under Venetian control)

8) King's Landing and House Baratheon (Joffrey Baratheon) ends up in the same position as Fort di Sant'Andrea, in Venice.

9) Storm's End and House Baratheon (Renly Baratheon) ends up in the same position as Fair Head, Northern Ireland

10) Vaes Dothrak ends up in the same location as Syghanak, Kazakh Khanate.

11) Pyke and House Greyjoy ends up in the same location as Karlsvärd Castle, in Gotland, Kingdom of Sweden. (Swedish War of Liberation has already started by this point)