Are there many people changing from their gender at birth among your acquaintances?

[raharris1973]

I wanted to compared experiences and thoughts. I am an American in my late 40s, married and childless. Something I've noticed just over the last five years has been that among friends of mine or my wife or second order friends through my who have children approaching or gone through puberty age a high proportion are changing from their gender at birth or claiming an asexual status. Something like 25%.

I'm not in any kind of moral panic about it and wish these kids and young people well and for them to feel as comfortable in their own skin as they can, but it is always a surprising development and a piece of news I receive with some instinctive unease.

Have any of you noticed an increase in people in or around your circles changing gender identities? Any idea why this is so?

Was the identity always latently there among biological men and women performing maleness and femaleness in the past?

Are there aspects of 21st century normative expectations of maleness and femaleness, perhaps derived from how it is performed in Hollywood, pop culture, fashion, or porn, that makes young people "not want to compete" at being the gender/sex they were born biologically and choose instead to be the other sex or neutral/asexual?

 

[Yinko]

I've never met a trans person in the US. My sister's friend's roommate is trans. That's the only one I personally know of. The caveats would probably be that: I live in a red area and don't have a large social network. I've seen maybe three of them on dating apps in my area, over the past three-four years.

 

[Rocinante]

Look up "sudden onset gender dysphoria" if you'd like to read up more on the phenomenon. Deborah Soh has a good book on it, called The End of Gender

 

[Cherico]

One of my friends had a hard time getting a job.

So he went in to the DMV changed his birth certificate to female tells people he is a masiculine presenting transgendered lesbian and currently makes pretty good money as a programer. So fincially speaking its a good move right now, it wont be a good move when society finally fucking snaps from all of this wokery but were decades away from that.

 

[The Whispering Monk]

One of my friends had a hard time getting a job.

So he went in to the DMV changed his birth certificate to female tells people he is a masiculine presenting transgendered lesbian and currently makes pretty good money as a programer. So fincially speaking its a good move right now, it wont be a good move when society finally fucking snaps from all of this wokery but were decades away from that.

I'm betting it's within the next decade.

 

[Cherico]

I'm betting it's within the next decade.

I hope your right.

 

[LordsFire]

I hope your right.

He probably is. This is the sort of thing that causes problems so acute and crushing, it suffers a seriously shortened lifespan.

 

[Buba]

I do not know any trans people, my generation - tail end of Boomers - or any other generation.
However, as I do not have a large social network and am vocal about "freaks", "perverts" and "messed ups" I do not expect any such people to exist inside my social mileu, nor to "come out" within my earshot.

 

[Yinko]

One of my friends had a hard time getting a job.

So he went in to the DMV changed his birth certificate to female tells people he is a masiculine presenting transgendered lesbian and currently makes pretty good money as a programer. So fincially speaking its a good move right now, it wont be a good move when society finally fucking snaps from all of this wokery but were decades away from that.

You live in CA though right? And probably in one of the more Left wing areas of it. That play wouldn't work nearly so well in other areas because companies outside of the Woke blast-zone aren't actively discriminating in their favor.

 

[Cherico]

You live in CA though right? And probably in one of the more Left wing areas of it. That play wouldn't work nearly so well in other areas because companies outside of the Woke blast-zone aren't actively discriminating in their favor.

this is true I live in mordar.

 

[Buba]

this is true I live in Mordor.

You poor thing! [Buba gives manly cishet huggz]

 

[Cherico]

You poor thing! [Buba gives manly cishet huggz]

thanks man living in the belly of the beast is not fun.

 

[WolfBear]

or claiming an asexual status.

Asexual status or agender status? Because agender is a person without gender; asexual, on the other hand, is a person without sexual attraction towards others, I think.

Anyway, I'll talk about myself: If I knew what male puberty was going to do to me, and in-vitro gametogenesis would have already been a thing, and I would have actually had this option, I might have very well signed up to take puberty blockers and then to get castrated and to undergo female puberty afterwards just so long as my plumbing would have still worked and I would have been able to take growth hormones to get a taller height. I don't want to be a girl per se, I just think that female puberty is better than male puberty on the net. Would have still liked to remove my breasts afterwards in such a scenario, though. I guess that I qualify as non-binary, which makes sense due to the autism-trans* correlation.

 

[Rocinante]

Asexual status or agender status? Because agender is a person without gender; asexual, on the other hand, is a person without sexual attraction towards others, I think.

Anyway, I'll talk about myself: If I knew what male puberty was going to do to me, and in-vitro gametogenesis would have already been a thing, and I would have actually had this option, I might have very well signed up to take puberty blockers and then to get castrated and to undergo female puberty afterwards just so long as my plumbing would have still worked and I would have been able to take growth hormones to get a taller height. I don't want to be a girl per se, I just think that female puberty is better than male puberty on the net. Would have still liked to remove my breasts afterwards in such a scenario, though. I guess that I qualify as non-binary, which makes sense due to the autism-trans* correlation.

...what?

You'd rather cut your balls off, grow tits, have those tits later removed, and live life as..whatever that is, than go through puberty?

See, this is why we say trans people have a mental issue.

You seem like maybe you have some issues that need addressed. And I mean this in a kind and compassionate way. I truly hope you find the help you need.

Sadly, I fear that the way things are going these days, that the help that is out there would reaffirm this delusion rather than actually try to help find and fix the root cause of your problems.

But wow dude. I am sorry that you're suffering like this.

 

[Val the Moofia Boss]

My only IRL friends are from my Church and the Christian Boy Scout Troop I used to be a part of, so nothing crazy there. The people at my workplace appeared to be sane, but I never got to know them well personally. Don't know anyone IRL who is trans or claims to be asexual or whatever. I don't live in the big blue coastal cities like San Francisco or LA.

 

[gral]

I know someone(university classmate) who decided to become a woman, but changed his mind halfway through, so he became a slightly feminine guy with tits(the last I heard of him). Don't have contact with him anymore(some acquaintances of mine still do).

Don't know anyone younger, but then, most of my friends' children aren't teenagers yet.

 

[DarthOne]

Asexual status or agender status? Because agender is a person without gender; asexual, on the other hand, is a person without sexual attraction towards others, I think.

Anyway, I'll talk about myself: If I knew what male puberty was going to do to me, and in-vitro gametogenesis would have already been a thing, and I would have actually had this option, I might have very well signed up to take puberty blockers and then to get castrated and to undergo female puberty afterwards just so long as my plumbing would have still worked and I would have been able to take growth hormones to get a taller height. I don't want to be a girl per se, I just think that female puberty is better than male puberty on the net. Would have still liked to remove my breasts afterwards in such a scenario, though. I guess that I qualify as non-binary, which makes sense due to the autism-trans* correlation.

I think, based on my interactions with women, that is very much a 'grass is always greener on the other side' issue. In that each thinks the other has it better/easier.

 

[Sailor.X]

No. Not one person I know is doing that bullshit. Everyone is XX and XY no made up I am in the wrong body bullshit.

 

[WolfBear]

...what?

You'd rather cut your balls off, grow tits, have those tits later removed, and live life as..whatever that is, than go through puberty?

See, this is why we say trans people have a mental issue.

You seem like maybe you have some issues that need addressed. And I mean this in a kind and compassionate way. I truly hope you find the help you need.

Sadly, I fear that the way things are going these days, that the help that is out there would reaffirm this delusion rather than actually try to help find and fix the root cause of your problems.

But wow dude. I am sorry that you're suffering like this.

I think, based on my interactions with women, that is very much a 'grass is always greener on the other side' issue. In that each thinks the other has it better/easier.

Well, I liked my body before puberty (other than a few moles in the wrong places which I subsequently got surgically removed). Not so much after puberty. I like the tall height and the wood, but not much else, to be honest. Not the body hair, not the facial hair, not the excessive facial masculinization, and not the male pattern baldness!

 

[Rocinante]

Well, I liked my body before puberty (other than a few moles in the wrong places which I subsequently got surgically removed). Not so much after puberty. I like the tall height and the wood, but not much else, to be honest. Not the body hair, not the facial hair, not the excessive facial masculinization, and not the male pattern baldness!

All things that can be addressed without growing and then removing tits, and castrating yourself.

You are okay how you are. In the body you have.

I truly and honestly hope that one day you realize this and that you find help from someone who can assist you in getting there.