Amazon Prime Amazon Fallout series.

[Scooby Doo]

No no no, I am certain it's just irrational infatuation, that must be it. ;V

Can we at least agree that the Fallout IP being in the hands of Bethesda is not doing it any favors? Come on can you seriously say that Skyrim and Starfield could be judged as 'good stories'?

You can see my previous posts that there are things that I dislike and I don't think the Fallout IP is doing well on Bethesda. (I think the show was better than Fallout 76 and Fallout 4 tbh)

But Skyrim is a good story, Starfield is dog shit.

 

[ThatZenoGuy]

Bro I don't think it's a maybe. Reminder of what its basic non explosive round was doing

A handgun capable of punching fist+ sized holes right through people is probably going to have so much recoil it'll break your own wrist, so I think we can chalk that scene up to cinematic flair, or at the very least a joke about the Bloody Mess perk.
Especially because Ghouls are relatively 'squishy' with faulty joints and ligaments and such, his own hand could've gone flying off.

And lets not even beat around the bush by saying there's no fucking way you can load a handgun to have that much energy, it'd have to be loaded with RDX for propellant or some shit and the gun itself made from unobtanium.

This is a controversial take but Skyrim is the most overrated game of all time. It was outdated and clunky when it released in 2011 and the story was an absolute joke. The last game made by Bethesda that was up to date for its era was Oblivion and that game also had a mediocre story Shivering Ilse was cool though. Aside from that their last truly great game was Morrowind.

No, I agree entirely. Skyrim is a comically overrated game. It's not a good RPG, it's not a good swordplay game, hell it doesn't even have good dialogue system or plotline. It's 'meh' at best all around, and debatably BAD in many areas where it matters.

You can see my previous posts that there are things that I dislike and I don't think the Fallout IP is doing well on Bethesda. (I think the show was better than Fallout 76 and Fallout 4 tbh)

But Skyrim is a good story, Starfield is dog shit.

Skyrim absolutely doesn't have a good story, "We are the organization entrusted to protect you, because you are by birthright THE GENUINE EMPEROR OF THE EMPIRE", "Oh but you have to follow our orders and kill some random friendly dragon and we won't help you fight Alduin or anything lmao"

Which things would you say Bethesda does wrong with Fallout?

 

[ThatZenoGuy]

Watched some more, the humor in places can range from reddit-tier cringe to legitimately well written skits. The former is embarrassing, the latter just makes me wish it was more consistent.

 

[Typhonis]

So Muadib returned to the desert at the end of Season 1.

 

[Carrot of Truth]

Watched some more, the humor in places can range from reddit-tier cringe to legitimately well written skits. The former is embarrassing, the latter just makes me wish it was more consistent.

I think its a pile of shit that across the board. Ignoring the butchering of the lore and the shitty decisions if I just view this on its own merits its a mediocre show and nothing worth writing home about.

 

[ThatZenoGuy]

I think its a pile of shit that across the board. Ignoring the butchering of the lore and the shitty decisions if I just view this on its own merits its a mediocre show and nothing worth writing home about.

I will say most of the acting is atrocious, every fucking scene is random people standing still and talking to one another like they're stiff robots.
I guess that's how it works in Bethesda RPG's but when translated into video it looks so retarded.

 

[Typhonis]

Watching THE END. The part where the nukes fell....Why didn't the kids cartoon get interrupted like the TV did in Fallout 4 with news of Nuclear Initiations in New York and Pennsylvania? Where were the air raid sirens when the nukes went off? Also is it just me or does it feel like it is early afternoon in LA when it all kicks off?

 

[Scooby Doo]

Watching THE END. The part where the nukes fell....Why didn't the kids cartoon get interrupted like the TV did in Fallout 4 with news of Nuclear Initiations in New York and Pennsylvania? Where were the air raid sirens when the nukes went off? Also is it just me or does it feel like it is early afternoon in LA when it all kicks off?

Probably because LA got struck first. In Fallout 4 the main character isn't the first to get nuked several others were before.

Followed by... yes, followed by flashes. Blinding flashes. Sounds of explosions... We're... we're trying to get confirmation... But we seem to have lost contact with our affiliate stations... W-We do have- we do have... We do have coming in... That's um... confirmed reports. I repeat, confirmed reports of nuclear detonations in New York and Pennsylvania. My God.

There could be an array of reasons why no air raid sirens, it could be the nukes launched from Submarines and there wasn't enough time or Chinese sabotage or someone incompetent at the helm or just the writers thought the silence would be scarier 🤷

 

[Typhonis]

Well as I said it looks mid afternoon in LA....not say 6:47 AM in October....Heck according to Google sunrise is not till 7:41 AM.

 

[Warmaster]

>If I call rational disliking of something 'irrational hatred' I look more correct

I counter with a retort, you're just irrationally infatuated with anything that's Bethesda related because it mentions Bethesda.

God forbid I dislike something for it smearing the legacy of older games lol

There's a solid difference between plausibility and just dunking on on the old games.

 

[DarthOne]

Timothy Cain, one of the main minds behind the original Fallout, comments on the TV series.

Also, a tale of a automated vacuum cleaner being uppity.

 

[Scooby Doo]

Well as I said it looks mid afternoon in LA....not say 6:47 AM in October....Heck according to Google sunrise is not till 7:41 AM.

I think the sun IRL rises earlier in California but it do be kinda weird to be attending a Birthday party that early, I chalk it up to artistic license.

God forbid I dislike something for it smearing the legacy of older games lol

There's a solid difference between plausibility and just dunking on on the old games.

The show doesn't dunk on the old games.

For Christ sake dude, you're acting like it's worse than the Halo TV show.


They changed the date and everyone's literally shitting themselves 😂, the Halo fans and Witcher fans are the ones that have some actual dunking and disrespect

 

[Warmaster]

I think the sun IRL rises earlier in California but it do be kinda weird to be attending a Birthday party that early, I chalk it up to artistic license.

The show doesn't dunk on the old games.

For Christ sake dude, you're acting like it's worse than the Halo TV show.


They changed the date and everyone's literally shitting themselves 😂, the Halo fans and Witcher fans are the ones that have some actual dunking and disrespect

I literally have no idea what your talking about anymore. My distaste has nothing to do with the date. Nor does it have anything to do with the plausibility.

I hate the NCR getting nuked. I hate House being included into the big evil meeting with a bunch of other evil people. I hate Vault-Tec being the ones who instigated the Great War.

Imagine spending 3 games building up a region/place/government... then know what would be funny? Nuking it. Peak art I guess. That's your 9/10 show right there. Big payoff. Not dunking on the old games for sure.

Again. I don't like the cycle of constant apocalypse. I don't care if its plausible or not. I'm sure if it was plausible for the moon to fall down onto Fallout Earth and kill everyone you would be down for it because it makes sense in your head. Anything can make sense if you try hard enough. Criticizing narrative choices is weird now apparently.

Its okay if you like it. Just like its okay to like any other piece of media. Just don't pretend like it doesn't do as I say it does. From your POV it might not be dunking on the older games somehow. But for me and others it obviously does. It's an opinion.

 

[Scooby Doo]

I hate the NCR getting nuked.

Probably the only valid criticism you've had so far lol

I hate House being included into the big evil meeting with a bunch of other evil people. I hate Vault-Tec being the ones who instigated the Great War.

1. Robert House isn't a good guy, you have to make up your mind first it's not accurate but when they do something accurate about the character you're then upset about it?
2. They didn't instigate it, they guaranteed it would happen. There's a difference.

Imagine spending 3 games building up a region/place/government... then know what would be funny? Nuking it. Peak art I guess. That's your 9/10 show right there. Big payoff. Not dunking on the old games for sure.

They nuked a city, if you're mad that Shady Sands doesn't exist anymore that's fine but I literally factually debunked your claim of "they nuked the entire NCR".

Again. I don't like the cycle of constant apocalypse. I don't care if its plausible or not. I'm sure if it was plausible for the moon to fall down onto Fallout Earth and kill everyone you would be down for it because it makes sense in your head. Anything can make sense if you try hard enough. Criticizing narrative choices is weird now apparently.

You don't like it is fine saying that it slandered the original games in a gross mischaracterization of the show, it's just fans like you that over exaggerate the wasteland background of Bethesda.

Bethesda has only made three games and of those three only one didn't involve rebuilding society, Fallout 4 literally has the Capital rebuilt by the Brotherhood of Steel, Fallout 76 literally has you rebuilding Appalachia. Fallout 3 is literally the only game where society wasn't in the process of rebuilding itself.

That's not an "obsession for wastelands"

Its okay if you like it. Just like its okay to like any other piece of media. Just don't pretend like it doesn't do as I say it does. From your POV it might not be dunking on the older games somehow. But for me and others it obviously does. It's an opinion.

I'm fine with people not liking it, what I'm not fine with is obvious blatant misinformation to make the show sound worse than it actually is.

It's being malicious out of spite not genuine criticism.

 

[Vyor]

The idea that everyone has to live in mud-huts is exclusive to Chris Avellone and Bethesda, who are both incompetent.

Avellone was fucking Obsidian.

As shown by both Fallout 4 and Fallout 76: Bethesda absolutely believes people can recover from the apocalypse.

 

[Scooby Doo]

Avellone was fucking Obsidian.

As shown by both Fallout 4 and Fallout 76: Bethesda absolutely believes people can recover from the apocalypse.

Seriously it's like people didn't pay attention to Fallout 4 or Fallout 76.
Fallout 3 is literally the only game Bethesda made where society wasn't rebuilding and that's because they didn't have a Protagonist until the Lone Wanderer arrived.


The West Coast has THREE Protagonist arrive much earlier than the East Coast. Bethesda just didn't immediately jump to "Oh yeah by the way the Entire East Coast got rebuilt" not even FO2 did that.

 

[Vyor]

New Vegas was basically the end of Fallout, I only wish we had gotten Van Buren properly.

New Vegas is the third worst fallout game out there.

Partially thanks to Avellone's SI, but also because holy shit there is literally no nuance to any of the characters except the NCR, and even with the NCR the nuance is only there to justify the independent ending being an option (it's fucking not, for the record, the mojave will fall apart without a strong guiding force and that leads to death). Every other faction that doesn't outright ally underneath you is evil. House? Evil. Legion? Stupendously evil. BoS? Evil until you effectively take over.

Only one of the DLC is any good, and that one is a parody!

Seriously it's like people didn't pay attention to Fallout 4 or Fallout 76.
Fallout 3 is literally the only game Bethesda made where society wasn't rebuilding and that's because they didn't have a Protagonist until the Lone Wanderer arrived.


The West Coast has THREE Protagonist arrive much earlier than the East Coast. Bethesda just didn't immediately jump to "Oh yeah by the way the Entire East Coast got rebuilt" not even FO2 did that.

Not to mention that constant warfare ain't good for a region.

 

[Typhonis]

That's what you get when you only have 18 months to develop a game. It also doesn't help that the game is as linear as it is. You literally have to follow the path south unless you can avoid the Deathclaws to the north.

 

[TheRejectionist]

At minute 8 I feel the first episode already has a bit more worldbuilding than Fallout 4 intro in 15. I still enjoy the game BUT the show can convince me more of the world than their game.

That's what you get when you only have 18 months to develop a game. It also doesn't help that the game is as linear as it is. You literally have to follow the path south unless you can avoid the Deathclaws to the north.

You can go stealth if you find the stealth boy in the school.

Partially thanks to Avellone's SI

What that would be?

 

[Scooby Doo]

New Vegas is the third worst fallout game out there.

Partially thanks to Avellone's SI, but also because holy shit there is literally no nuance to any of the characters except the NCR, and even with the NCR the nuance is only there to justify the independent ending being an option (it's fucking not, for the record, the mojave will fall apart without a strong guiding force and that leads to death). Every other faction that doesn't outright ally underneath you is evil. House? Evil. Legion? Stupendously evil. BoS? Evil until you effectively take over.

Only one of the DLC is any good, and that one is a parody!


Not to mention that constant warfare ain't good for a region.

Yeah some of the criticism isn't even fair.

In Fallout 1. Was the NCR a massive organized entity? No and no one complained
In Fallout 3. Was the Capital Wasteland a massive organized entity? No, Bethesda haters metaphorically start foaming from the mouth that's it's not as developed as the NCR in the SECOND game.
In Fallout 2 (After 80 fucking years) NCR became multiple city states. People orgasm about Post Apocalypse society.
In Fallout 4 in just a decade the Brotherhood rebuilds the Capital Wasteland. HUH DUR BETHESDA WANT TEH HUTTS.

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