Star Trek All Star... Star Trek Crew

[Husky_Khan]

Like it says on the tin... choose the All-Star Star Trek Crew... especially for the Bridge but I mean... we can fill out all of the rest as well. Keep in mind... the general mission will be one of classic Star Trek theme... peaceful exploration... AT ANY COST!

Captain:

First Officer:

Chief Engineer:

Science Officer:

Tactical Officer:

Communications Officer:

Security Officer:

Operations Officer:

Doctor:

Helm/Conn:

Morale Officer/Counselor/Bartender:

Replaceable Ensign: (basically guest star or recurring role From Star Trek shows/movies you'd wanna see as an appropriate part of the crew)

Only rule is you need to pick AT LEAST ONE main cast member from each of the following Star Trek series, The Original Series, The Next Generation, Deep Space Nine, Voyager, and Enterprise.

Not including Discovery since it hasn't had as much exposure yet.

And please explain your awesome choices.

 

[Shipmaster Sane]

Hey if I can pick any character from any of those shows does that mean I can pick Obrian and Worf twice?

 

[Husky_Khan]

Hey if I can pick any character from any of those shows does that mean I can pick Obrian and Worf twice?

No. One character. But it counts towards both TNG and DS9 in their case.

 

[S'task]

Captain: James T. Kirk

Kirk is always my choice for Captain. While I like all three others, neither Sisko or Janeway are anywhere near Kirk and Picard, and of those two I feel Kirk has more consistent showings and lacks Picard's arrogance.​

First Officer: Spock

Going with Spock to pair with Kirk is a no brainer. They are one of the best tag teams in Trek and iconic for a reason. Of the other options for XO, I actually feel Kira is the next best, as she brings a unique set of skills and perspectives, but she is still well below Spock.​

Chief Engineer: Montgomery Scott

No two ways about it, he was by FAR the best Cheng in a Star Trek show. LaForge learned from him, and my runner up choice, Miles O'brien, is, let's be honest, is just Scotty as an Irishman. ​

Science Officer: Jadzia Dax

Hey, Spock doesn't need to fill both roles, even though he did on the NCC-1701. Jadzia brings a wealth of experience and her own unique flair to things in a way that neither Data nor Spock does.​

Tactical Officer: Tuvok

Likely a bit of a surprise pick here, but Tuvok brings considerable experience to bear as well as the laundry list of Vulcan advantages. The other options are Chekov and Worf mainly, and while fun characters, neither one quite has the consistent track record Tuvok does.​

Operations / Communications Officer: Data

Yes, I merged these two categories, that's for a simple reason: Comm Officer was only a duty station in TOS. In later series these duties were handled by the Ops officer. What this means is that without merging them your only choice for Comms is Uhura, and for Ops your choices are Harry Kim or Data. These aren't choices AT ALL, as everyone will then pick Uhura and Data because... why would you pick Kim? Anyway, while Uhura is a highly competent officer, I think Data brings much more to the table, making him the best choice.​

Security Officer: Worf

This one has Chekov, Worf, and Odo really vying for it (Tuvok too if he's not chosen for tactical), and of those three, while Odo brings a LOT to the table, I feel his style is wrong for a starship. Chekov, while competent, doesn't bring much that's not already covered. Meanwhile Worf brings a good set of skills and sufficient paranoia to ensure the safety of the crew.​

Doctor: The EMH

Bashir is to wet behind the ears in many respects, and while superhuman, he also simply lacks the breadth of experience of the other doctors. Crusher has a lot of experience but well... she never struck me as outstanding. McCoy seems to be the obvious choice then, especially given I'm already putting Kirk and Spock up, but the EMH from Voyager brings everything McCoy had and more to the table. So I feel he's the best pick.​

Helm/Conn: Tom Paris

There's not as many dedicated helm officers to choose from. You have Sulu, Paris, and Nog. And let's be honest, Nog is a good kid, but pales in comparison to Sulu and Paris. So the choice is really between Sulu and Paris and of those two, Paris has shown a lot more flexibility and impressive tricks up his sleeve. It's a close choice though.​

Morale Officer/Counselor/Bartender: Dr. Leonard McCoy

The issue here is you need someone who's good at all three. Ezri is a trained Counselor, but not exactly the life of the party, and Quark is a good bartender and kept his pulse on the morale of DS9, but a sympathetic ear and trained counselor he isn't. Guinan has the same issue Quark does, she's a good Morale Officer and Bartender, but she's NOT a trained Counselor. And Neelix is... well... NEELIX, he's of dubious skill as a morale officer, has absolutely no skill as a counselor and I'm not sure he knows Saurian Brandy from Romulan Ale. Old Bones though, he WAS trained as a Counselor, kept his pulse on his crew's morale time and again, and we ALL know he had FINE taste in liquor. He's a dark horse candidate that you wouldn't expect, but he fits the qualifications and does the job best.​

 

[Husky_Khan]

Love the choices and explanations including your Dark Horse choice. Part of the reason why I made Comms and Ops different however is because of course I wanted to maximize the number of positions but also so that the Enterprise TV series has more chance of getting mentions in the All Star crew.

 

[S'task]

Love the choices and explanations including your Dark Horse choice. Part of the reason why I made Comms and Ops different however is because of course I wanted to maximize the number of positions but also so that the Enterprise TV series has more chance of getting mentions in the All Star crew.

Fair. Hoshi is probably the only Enterprise crew member to really have a shot as entering the All Star listing via the Comm. Officer slot. Being a gifted linguist and one of the main inventors of the Universal Translator is a big deal. But still, that basically just gives two choices for Comms and Ops each... one of which is competitive and the other just is not...

 

[Hlaalu Agent]

Fair. Hoshi is probably the only Enterprise crew member to really have a shot as entering the All Star listing via the Comm. Officer slot. Being a gifted linguist and one of the main inventors of the Universal Translator is a big deal. But still, that basically just gives two choices for Comms and Ops each... one of which is competitive and the other just is not...

You forgot Porthos, whose sole qualification make him immensely qualified, which of course is Dog. I am pretty sure that Porthos, has more character development than half the Enterprise crew anyways. He'd be a great morale officer.

 

[Shipmaster Sane]

I've always found Kirk to be about a thousand times more arrogant than Picard.

 

[Lanmandragon]

I've always found Kirk to be about a thousand times more arrogant than Picard.

I agree but dude did take on and beat several gods. He's got a pretty decent excuse for his arrogance.

 

[Sailor.X]

I agree but dude did take on and beat several gods. He's got a pretty decent excuse for his arrogance.

And Picard can't even get one to leave him alone.

 

[Battlegrinder]

Captain: Picard. Picard generally comes off as a better commander and leader than Kirk, because Kirk has a hard time delegating or letting other people handle things, which is probably not the best way to run a ship. There's a difference between "officers should lead rather than follow/never send someone to do something you're not willing to do yourself" and "just do everything yourself". And the other captains just aren't an option.

First Officer: Chakotay. Riker was a great first officer, but he was a little too comfortable in Picard's shadow and while he could be a good captain, didn't want to be one.....which is bad because in ST you might be forced to be the captain where you like it or not. Chakotay had issues, but they were mostly backstage "I'm literally just a lazy mishmash of native American traits made up by a conman" issues, nothing wrong with him specifically as a leader. In fact, in the various alternate timelines where Janway dies or something and he ends up in command, he seems to so a pretty good job at it. He's also a bit more aggressive than Riker, which should help with some of Picard's pacifism.

Kira would also work, but she's perhaps a bit too aggressive, and I don't think she'd want a job that takes her away from Bajor.

Chief Engineer: Geordi. Professional, capable, by the book. Exactly what you want in the guy tasked with making sure the semi-stable antimatter reactor that powers you ship doesn't kill you all. Scotty would get the job, except he deliberately wrote the book wrong just so he could pull off his "miracle worker" shtick, and that's just wrong on so many levels.

Science Officer: 7 of 9. Smart, ludicrously competent, and with a wealth of experience and knowledge no other character can match. Only downside is that fucking catsuit, but maybe we can have Jellico guest star for an episode and make her change into an actual uniform. It worked with Trio.

Tactical Officer: Reed. Honestly, all the candidates seemed pretty good at the tactical officer bit, so this is just down to personal preference.

Communications Officer: Mirror Hoshi. She seems more capable than her regular counterpart (and also more of a scheming backstabber, but I assume she won't do that in the main universe it won't work. Whatsherface from discovery doesn't). Also someone has to be the sexy fanservice chick but I don't want it to be 7.

Security Officer: This one's hard, because ST ships pretty much always have terrible security, which means all the security chiefs are really bad at security. Of the bunch, Tuvok comes out the best. He's the best investigator (Odo is close, but Tuvok tends to actually solve crimes while Odo just turns into a chair and spies on Quark until Quark admits he did it), probably the best in person fighter behind Odo, and Voyager security is....well it's shit, but it's not quite as bad the E-D was.

Operations Officer: Data.

Doctor: EMH. As far as performance, he's about on par with Bashir, so he gets the spot because as a hologram, he's immune to the usual "all the medical staff got sick first" issue that plagues the organic medical staff (granted, he does BSOD every few seasons, but that's not as bad as coming down with the plague of the week in the middle of trying to cure it). None of the other doctors come close to that kind performance.

Helm/Conn: Paris, because in addition to being the best pilot of anything ever, he's also extremely competent at basically everything else.

Morale Officer/Counselor/Bartender: Vic Fontana, for the same reasons that S'stak gave the job to McCoy, except this I'd literally what Fontana was made for.

Replaceable Ensign: Yoeman Rand. You thought I forgot about having to have a TOS character her, didn't you? Well I didn't.

 

[S'task]

Scotty would get the job, except he deliberately wrote the book wrong just so he could pull off his "miracle worker" shtick, and that's just wrong on so many levels.

Err... you misread what "Relics" was having Scotty say in those scenes then. Safety regulations for engineering, even in REAL LIFE, are engineered to be considerable more stringent than what the actual safe point is which is ALSO considerable different from the failure point. He didn't write the book to look like a miracle worker, he wrote the book to ensure maximum safety for all parties. Good engineers know the tolerances and how much they could be pushed and can know when it's worth going past the normal "Safe" threshold. Further, he never claimed to write the safety book to look like a Miracle Worker, he just was conservative in his estimates there (which, again, is normal in engineering, always be more conservative where safety is concerned, while knowing you can push past them if absolutely necessary).

What he said he did to look like a "Miracle Worker" was pad his time estimates for work to be done. If he thought a repair would take five minutes, he'd double it to ten. If it would take a day, he'd add another day or two. This might seem dishonest at first, but it's actually a very normal thing in business and services when giving time estimates to customers. There's a twofold reason for this, the first is, of course, reputational, getting work done faster than your time estimate for it looks good. However there's a second, much more important reason for it: you don't know if anything else could go wrong or interfere. By saying something will take longer than you think it will, if an unforeseen problem comes up that you did not anticipate, you can deal with that and STILL finish your original goal within your time estimate. This is part of time management 101: always give yourself more time to accomplish something than you think it will.

In other words, Scotty shows himself as both a better engineer (by knowing the tolerances beyond simple by the book, while also being conservative in what he put IN the book to idiot proof the regs) and better manager (by practicing good time management skills) than LaForge just in that episode alone.

Otherwise, fair points, esp. on the Security choice (had I not put Tuvok for Tactical, I probably would have put him as Security for much the same reasons you did).

Never going to agree on Picard though...

 

[Battlegrinder]

I'd disagree with that slightly. Safety regulations are written to be conservative and avoid foung anywhere near the failure point, yes. But I don't think this was safety regulations, this was the technical specs (the show says both, but context says the former):

SCOTT: Shunt the deuterium from the main cryo-pump to the auxiliary tank.
LAFORGE: The tank can't withstand that kind of pressure.
SCOTT: Where'd you get that idea?
LAFORGE: What do you mean, where did I get that idea? It's in the impulse engine specifications.
SCOTT: Regulation forty two slash fifteen, pressure variances on IRC tank storage?


Now, in real life a system rated for X can usually handle X and then some, but geordi shouldvknow that and factor that in, so if he's still saying that the tank can't handle that much pressure, I'm assuming that means the specs flat out say the equivalent of "do not exceed X, the tank cannot withstand X PSI".

 

[Sailor.X]

Err... you misread what "Relics" was having Scotty say in those scenes then. Safety regulations for engineering, even in REAL LIFE, are engineered to be considerable more stringent than what the actual safe point is which is ALSO considerable different from the failure point. He didn't write the book to look like a miracle worker, he wrote the book to ensure maximum safety for all parties. Good engineers know the tolerances and how much they could be pushed and can know when it's worth going past the normal "Safe" threshold. Further, he never claimed to write the safety book to look like a Miracle Worker, he just was conservative in his estimates there (which, again, is normal in engineering, always be more conservative where safety is concerned, while knowing you can push past them if absolutely necessary).

What he said he did to look like a "Miracle Worker" was pad his time estimates for work to be done. If he thought a repair would take five minutes, he'd double it to ten. If it would take a day, he'd add another day or two. This might seem dishonest at first, but it's actually a very normal thing in business and services when giving time estimates to customers. There's a twofold reason for this, the first is, of course, reputational, getting work done faster than your time estimate for it looks good. However there's a second, much more important reason for it: you don't know if anything else could go wrong or interfere. By saying something will take longer than you think it will, if an unforeseen problem comes up that you did not anticipate, you can deal with that and STILL finish your original goal within your time estimate. This is part of time management 101: always give yourself more time to accomplish something than you think it will.

In other words, Scotty shows himself as both a better engineer (by knowing the tolerances beyond simple by the book, while also being conservative in what he put IN the book to idiot proof the regs) and better manager (by practicing good time management skills) than LaForge just in that episode alone.

Otherwise, fair points, esp. on the Security choice (had I not put Tuvok for Tactical, I probably would have put him as Security for much the same reasons you did).

Never going to agree on Picard though...

What Scotty did as an Engineer on a ship telling the Captain how long it would take to fix something is exactly what actual US Navy Engineering crew do everyday. You don't let officers work you to death. You know how long it takes to actually do something. So you give yourself a buffer so that you don't get run ragged. If US Navy Engineers acted like Laforge. They would be tired bundles of nerves.

 

[Vargas Fan]

Is there a reason no one has selected Crusher or Pulaski as Medical officer?

 

[Shipmaster Sane]

Is there a reason no one has selected Crusher or Pulaski as Medical officer?

They're sexually intimidated by The Beverly.

 

[Battlegrinder]

Is there a reason no one has selected Crusher or Pulaski as Medical officer?

Because they managed to almost have the ship wipe out by disease under thier watch like a half dozen times.

 

[Sailor.X]

They're sexually intimidated by The Beverly.

If you take Crusher you get Weasley as a package deal............. I would rather have Bones.

 

[Shipmaster Sane]

If you take Crusher you get Weasley as a package deal............. I would rather have Bones.

I blame the father, this never would have happened if Picard had contributed genetically.

I bet Q thought it was real fuckin funny telling everyone he was going to grow up to Be a big strong chad huh. Real funny.

Nothing against the OG bones but if it's the NuTrek Doc I don't want Karl Urban around my ship making me question my sexuality.

EDIT:

Science Officer: 7 of 9. Smart, ludicrously competent, and with a wealth of experience and knowledge no other character can match. Only downside is that fucking catsuit, but maybe we can have Jellico guest star for an episode and make her change into an actual uniform. It worked with Trio.

Brain damaged, will literally disobey orders and bicker with her superiors even when they've given their final word. Her literal only upside is that she's hot, and thats the part you want to remove.

 

[Hlaalu Agent]

Brain damaged, will literally disobey orders and bicker with her superiors even when they've given their final word. Her literal only upside is that she's hot, and thats the part you want to remove.

Then she can be a diversity hire. Get you those tax credits.