AI/Automation Megathread
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Shipmaster Sane
You have been weighed
No harm meant to your personal friends, but it's not that you know a cross section of artists, its that the tiny number you know are statistical anomalies.
LordsFire
Internet Wizard
Entirely possible. I think all but one of them were deeply committed Christians.
Shipmaster Sane
You have been weighed
Well then, you're probably already dealing with the percent of the percent of artists, so to speak.
All the best to them, anyway.
might be a regional thing, a lot of the cal arts students I've met have been unbearable assholes.
DarthOne
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Well they are either from or where taught by Californians, so there’s your problem right there.
mrttao
Well-known member
I am going to take a guess and say you probably only associate with the tiny tiny minority of artists who are conservative. And also not famous.
LordsFire
Internet Wizard
Mostly. I've known a few others.
Shipmaster Sane
You have been weighed
So the main thing is that beating the war drum against AI art has got to be the most pointless exercise I can think of. It's happening, you have no control over that. You're not going to slow it down, you're not going to effect it in any way. Imagine wasting literally a second of time just screaming into the void about this, as if that's going to help you in any way.
hyperspacewizard
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Amazon one step closer to being the first actual cyberpunk megacorp
1:17 fits the automation part more Less forklift operators soon? 9:17 is a ai robot for tomato harvesting
flashing lights so be careful if you have epilepsy
laser weed destroying robot uses computer vision to find super tiny weeds and blast them
Blasterbot
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FACT SHEET: President Biden Issues Executive Order on Safe, Secure, and Trustworthy Artificial Intelligence | The White House
Today, President Biden is issuing a landmark Executive Order to ensure that America leads the way in seizing the promise and managing the risks of artificial intelligence (AI). The Executive Order establishes new standards for AI safety and security, protects Americans’ privacy, advances equity...
this is gonna be great.
Bassoe
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So in other words, a senile puppet whose understanding of the underlying technologies he's legislating is limited to tom cruise movies acting on the dictates of oligarchs bent on regulatory capture.
www.businessinsider.com
AI one-percenters seizing power forever is the real doomsday scenario, warns AI godfather
The real risk of AI isn't that it'll kill you. It's that a small group of billionaires will control the tech forever.
www.businessinsider.com
Here's a great interview with someone working on an AI team that's aiming to get LLM based AI into video games to either provide real time interaction or to pre-generate dialogue trees:
The specifically time stamped part deals with the ethics of AI, and points out a few things:
For people without a neural processing unit (NPU) in your CPU, make sure you get a GPU with at least 16GB VRAM, make sure you have 2x system RAM to VRAM in your CPU, and get CPUs that do AVX512 well to get the best performance in the next few years.
The specifically time stamped part deals with the ethics of AI, and points out a few things:
- There's plenty of AI training data sets that don't infringe on copyright.
- There's already efforts to develop generative AI that don't even use training data to achieve the results that current generative AI achieve.
- The above means that the people currently complaining about copyright infringement of their art are completely cut out of the loop and left in an even worse position.
- Inflicting restrictions on AI development is more likely to make the big companies the only players in AI development.
- AI being used by people who understand the fundamentals of what they are trying to accomplish are going to generate better results than those that don't have that education.
For people without a neural processing unit (NPU) in your CPU, make sure you get a GPU with at least 16GB VRAM, make sure you have 2x system RAM to VRAM in your CPU, and get CPUs that do AVX512 well to get the best performance in the next few years.
Science Fiction and Fantasy Writers Take Aim at AI Freeloading * TorrentFrea
Science Fiction and Fantasy writers take offense with AI models that exploit authors who share their work without DRM and free of charge.
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Sci-Fi Authors Then: The singularity is going to be awesome! We're going to have AI doing human things! Synthetic PEOPLE, man! It's gonna be like Cortana and shit! It's gonna be like Iain Banks' Culture where we mostly just sit around eating grapes like Eloi while Artificial Intelligences do everything for us, including living our actual lives! Man, wouldn't that be nice? I can just kick back in my post-scarcity utopia while AI construct literal paradises all around me for my own hedonistic enjoyment.
Sci-Fi Authors Now: NOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!11111111oneoneone! REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE! You can't replace me with a machine! Stupid techbro Elon Musk manchildren are SCRAPING ALL MY STORIES AND FEEDING THEM TO CHATBOTS! THIS IS PLAGIARISM! I NEED MY HACK WRITING TO PAY RENT! I WILL LITERALLY GO BROKE IF I CAN'T SELL MY BAD EROTICA ON AMAZON! I CAN'T DO A REAL JOB, I HAVE LUMBAGO! HOW COULD YOU DO THIS TO ME?!
Carrot of Truth
War is Peace
Science Fiction and Fantasy Writers Take Aim at AI Freeloading * TorrentFrea
Science Fiction and Fantasy writers take offense with AI models that exploit authors who share their work without DRM and free of charge.
Sci-Fi Authors Then: The singularity is going to be awesome! We're going to have AI doing human things! Synthetic PEOPLE, man! It's gonna be like Cortana and shit! It's gonna be like Iain Banks' Culture where we mostly just sit around eating grapes like Eloi while Artificial Intelligences do everything for us, including living our actual lives! Man, wouldn't that be nice? I can just kick back in my post-scarcity utopia while AI construct literal paradises all around me for my own hedonistic enjoyment.
Sci-Fi Authors Now: NOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!11111111oneoneone! REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE! You can't replace me with a machine! Stupid techbro Elon Musk manchildren are SCRAPING ALL MY STORIES AND FEEDING THEM TO CHATBOTS! THIS IS PLAGIARISM! I NEED MY HACK WRITING TO PAY RENT! I WILL LITERALLY GO BROKE IF I CAN'T SELL MY BAD EROTICA ON AMAZON! I CAN'T DO A REAL JOB, I HAVE LUMBAGO! HOW COULD YOU DO THIS TO ME?!
If a """Writer """ cannot do better than a shitty algorithm like ChatGPT then they deserve to be broke.
Honestly, the only writers who should be scared by AI at this point are bad fanfic writers/the people who don't try/people who are only good at soulless business writing (resume folks, etc).
I've recently tried using it for things like analyzing images and describing them in text, and boy, it's not ready for prime time for fiction. It can provide you with a decent starting point, but it's not gonna give you more than a fifth grade or so level of writing.
For resumes/soulless business writing, it's 80-90% there. And since most people suck at that, it's going to the most prevalent use case.
That said, as the tech improves, the output will be good enough that the lazy writers will just use it, and the skilled writers will use it to shore up their weaknesses.
I've recently tried using it for things like analyzing images and describing them in text, and boy, it's not ready for prime time for fiction. It can provide you with a decent starting point, but it's not gonna give you more than a fifth grade or so level of writing.
For resumes/soulless business writing, it's 80-90% there. And since most people suck at that, it's going to the most prevalent use case.
That said, as the tech improves, the output will be good enough that the lazy writers will just use it, and the skilled writers will use it to shore up their weaknesses.
DarthOne
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Science Fiction and Fantasy Writers Take Aim at AI Freeloading * TorrentFrea
Science Fiction and Fantasy writers take offense with AI models that exploit authors who share their work without DRM and free of charge.
Sci-Fi Authors Then: The singularity is going to be awesome! We're going to have AI doing human things! Synthetic PEOPLE, man! It's gonna be like Cortana and shit! It's gonna be like Iain Banks' Culture where we mostly just sit around eating grapes like Eloi while Artificial Intelligences do everything for us, including living our actual lives! Man, wouldn't that be nice? I can just kick back in my post-scarcity utopia while AI construct literal paradises all around me for my own hedonistic enjoyment.
Sci-Fi Authors Now: NOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!11111111oneoneone! REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE! You can't replace me with a machine! Stupid techbro Elon Musk manchildren are SCRAPING ALL MY STORIES AND FEEDING THEM TO CHATBOTS! THIS IS PLAGIARISM! I NEED MY HACK WRITING TO PAY RENT! I WILL LITERALLY GO BROKE IF I CAN'T SELL MY BAD EROTICA ON AMAZON! I CAN'T DO A REAL JOB, I HAVE LUMBAGO! HOW COULD YOU DO THIS TO ME?!
You said the L-word, I have to post this.
LordsFire
Internet Wizard
I have absolutely zero fear of AI-generated stories usurping my position as a writer.
The difference between good and bad writing is not what tropes are used, how cliche the story is, or what narrative structure you build around.
It's whether or not the story has soul, whether or not the writer has poured their heart into it, and that's something that no AI can ever do.
Most writers don't either, but that's why Sturgeon's Law exists.
The difference between good and bad writing is not what tropes are used, how cliche the story is, or what narrative structure you build around.
It's whether or not the story has soul, whether or not the writer has poured their heart into it, and that's something that no AI can ever do.
Most writers don't either, but that's why Sturgeon's Law exists.
mrttao
Well-known member
Sturgeon law is what is mainly talked about.
An AI can fake a soul better than 99% of holliwood hacks.
It won't replace YOU, or tolkien, or terri pratchett, etc.
but it sure can replace the typical hack.
And the fact is, they are not hiring you to write for their multi billion franchises.
They let morons like kathleen kennedy run those franchises into the ground, with writers like jjabrams.
KK literally lost disney billions of dollars and they do not fire her.
every single one of her movies is a huge commercial flop.
Carrot of Truth
War is Peace
The one thing I do see algorithm's (None of these are actually AI they are all just algorithm's) being able to do is make it possible for small groups of people to make games that would have normally required large teams to do in a timely manner. I sort of hope it's a death blow to all the shitty companies pushing out trash in the gaming industry.