After the 1940 Fall of France, Benito Mussolini goes to war with Switzerland over the Italian-majority Ticino Canton

ATP

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I cannot believe that a thread topic on Ticino, Switzerland by a banned poster has gone on for four pages!
Only becouse @ahmed ali belive,that Turkey would not join germans no matter what,when i knew,that they could do that after taking Baku - but also could remain neutral.

Not only Moscow but also London, otherwise they will not join

Yes, they have infiltration much older than Iran

There are Coptic Muslims, and they are most of the population of Egypt. An Arab, according to the definition of an Arab, is a person who speaks Arabic, and this includes even Egyptian Christians.
So you belive,that turks would join invasion of soviets,when soviets cease to exist.
Egyptian cyvilization is old,but dead.People living there,muslims or not,have notching to do with pharaohs.
Arabs are descendents of arabs,not speaking arabic.If that definition was true,then irish and scoth people would be english,too.
And argentinians would be spaniards !
 

ahmed ali

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Only becouse @ahmed ali belive,that Turkey would not join germans no matter what,when i knew,that they could do that after taking Baku - but also could remain neutral.


So you belive,that turks would join invasion of soviets,when soviets cease to exist.
Egyptian cyvilization is old,but dead.People living there,muslims or not,have notching to do with pharaohs.
Arabs are descendents of arabs,not speaking arabic.If that definition was true,then irish and scoth people would be english,too.
And argentinians would be spaniards !
I have refuted your arguments several times and you are still insistent

Arabic is a Semitic language that developed in the current form because of the ancient Arabic languages that preceded it

The Irish are Celtic and the English are Germans, so your approach is wrong
 

ATP

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I have refuted your arguments several times and you are still insistent

Arabic is a Semitic language that developed in the current form because of the ancient Arabic languages that preceded it

The Irish are Celtic and the English are Germans, so your approach is wrong
Your only argument is,then turks would never support germans,unless they conqer everything.Which is silly - politic do not work that way.
States support others,if they think that they are winning,and could share some spolis of war.
When you belive,that turks would bever support germans no matter what.
Sorry,only we,poles,were that stupid.
Turks were smarter then that.

Nope,before people there speak arameic language and others.That is why Koran was written 200 years after conqest - there was not such thing like written arabic language yet in Machomet times.

Iris are celtics,but speak english.
And Berbers and other muslims are not arabs,too.
 

ahmed ali

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Your only argument is,then turks would never support germans,unless they conqer everything.Which is silly - politic do not work that way.
States support others,if they think that they are winning,and could share some spolis of war.
When you belive,that turks would bever support germans no matter what.
Sorry,only we,poles,were that stupid.
Turks were smarter then that.

Nope,before people there speak arameic language and others.That is why Koran was written 200 years after conqest - there was not such thing like written arabic language yet in Machomet times.

Iris are celtics,but speak english.
And Berbers and other muslims are not arabs,too.
Except that the Turkish government and people are simply anti-war

This cannot be removed, and the events of 1918-1923 help to strengthen anti-war much more.

And the army respects the word of Ataturk himself, who would have followed exactly what Inonu did and not joined the war.

Or simply don't piss off the Soviets and the British

That is why Türkiye will not be Poland and make the mistake of upsetting the Soviets

And the Turks very easily ignored the grudges in the tsarist and Ottoman era, while the Poles failed to do this, and this is the reason for their suffering.

Aramaic is an ancient Arabic language and it is its predecessor

If we were to apply your reasoning, then English simply was not the language of Britain, because Old English is not British.

This is true, but considering it as an argument is pure nonsense because languages evolve over time and are not static

Thanks to centuries of persecution, the Irish are making a comeback

This is true, most Muslims are not Arabs, so what?
 

ATP

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Except that the Turkish government and people are simply anti-war

This cannot be removed, and the events of 1918-1923 help to strengthen anti-war much more.

And the army respects the word of Ataturk himself, who would have followed exactly what Inonu did and not joined the war.

Or simply don't piss off the Soviets and the British

That is why Türkiye will not be Poland and make the mistake of upsetting the Soviets

And the Turks very easily ignored the grudges in the tsarist and Ottoman era, while the Poles failed to do this, and this is the reason for their suffering.

Aramaic is an ancient Arabic language and it is its predecessor

If we were to apply your reasoning, then English simply was not the language of Britain, because Old English is not British.

This is true, but considering it as an argument is pure nonsense because languages evolve over time and are not static

Thanks to centuries of persecution, the Irish are making a comeback

This is true, most Muslims are not Arabs, so what?
1.So,turks would never join germans,even if they keep winning and take Baku and other cities.
Strange religion to follow.
In reality,turks would consider joining more and more witch each german victory.

2.Both Poland and Turkey was objects of soviet future invasions,no matter what people there was doing.
Difference is - Truman in 1946 let soviets keep Poland,but forbid them from invading Turkey,which they planned to do.
That is only reason why Turkey were free,and Poland enslaved.

3.No,Aramaic is language which was replaced by arabic,not another arabic dialect.

4.Many not arab muslim speak arabic - but it not made them arabs.
 

ahmed ali

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1.So,turks would never join germans,even if they keep winning and take Baku and other cities.
Strange religion to follow.
In reality,turks would consider joining more and more witch each german victory.

2.Both Poland and Turkey was objects of soviet future invasions,no matter what people there was doing.
Difference is - Truman in 1946 let soviets keep Poland,but forbid them from invading Turkey,which they planned to do.
That is only reason why Turkey were free,and Poland enslaved.

3.No,Aramaic is language which was replaced by arabic,not another arabic dialect.

4.Many not arab muslim speak arabic - but it not made them arabs.
Because simply the United Kingdom and the United States will not collapse, and these are the reason for Germany's defeat

Türkiye understood this well

But the Turks are not Poles who accepted Russia's support against Greece and ignored the twelve wars they fought

(Another reason that makes them less inclined to fight the Soviets, and it is also a strong reason)

Rather, it is just another Arabic dialect, the current Persian, for example, is the same as the old Persian, with some changes


They consider it a religious language, not an ethnic language
 

ATP

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Because simply the United Kingdom and the United States will not collapse, and these are the reason for Germany's defeat

Türkiye understood this well

But the Turks are not Poles who accepted Russia's support against Greece and ignored the twelve wars they fought

(Another reason that makes them less inclined to fight the Soviets, and it is also a strong reason)

Rather, it is just another Arabic dialect, the current Persian, for example, is the same as the old Persian, with some changes


They consider it a religious language, not an ethnic language
1.No,you belive that turks must never fought soviets.When in reality they would faught them,if they belive in victory - for example,after germans taking Baku and Stalingrad.
2.When exactly Poland accepted russian support against Greece? Only reason why Turkey remained independent,and Poland enslaved,is becouse Truman say that soviets must not invade Turkey,but let them fake elections in Poland.
3.No,aramaic is not dialect.It is language.
4.But they still are not arabs.
 

ahmed ali

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1.No,you belive that turks must never fought soviets.When in reality they would faught them,if they belive in victory - for example,after germans taking Baku and Stalingrad.
2.When exactly Poland accepted russian support against Greece? Only reason why Turkey remained independent,and Poland enslaved,is becouse Truman say that soviets must not invade Turkey,but let them fake elections in Poland.
3.No,aramaic is not dialect.It is language.
4.But they still are not arabs.
Help them against Greece, and this is a strong excuse not to fight the Soviets, and the United Kingdom and the United States will not collapse, so it is useless for the Soviets to collapse, you idiot.

You are so stupid that you think I'm talking about Poland and I'm talking about Türkiye mainly

By mistake, Aramaic turned into Arabic, and there are many Arabic letters of Aramaic origin

Genetically they and the Arabs are the same thing
 

ATP

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Help them against Greece, and this is a strong excuse not to fight the Soviets, and the United Kingdom and the United States will not collapse, so it is useless for the Soviets to collapse, you idiot.

You are so stupid that you think I'm talking about Poland and I'm talking about Türkiye mainly

By mistake, Aramaic turned into Arabic, and there are many Arabic letters of Aramaic origin

Genetically they and the Arabs are the same thing
Dear wog,you are wrong again,becouse:
1.Turkey were genocidal,but not idiots.They would support stronger - if they belive in german victory,they would help them.
2.You said,that turks are not poles.Indeed,they are not - we never genocided any minority like them,and we belived in british and USA honour,and paid for our stupidity.
3.No,arameic not turned into arabic.
4.Muslims who tolk arabic language could be arabs,but could belong to other nations.
 

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