Adolf Hitler managed to get into Art School?

The thing is, he would have been the sort of guy doing poster and later comic work... if given half a chance. Problem was, he never did. It also didn't help that his dad was... not the best person either and kept pushing him to politics (probably a reason why he ran to Germany and joined the army).

Comic work? You mean for backgrounds? Gotta say though, I’m not sure the exact standards and qualifications of “high art”

Never knew that, did they ever show in a movie his childhood? I’d think whoever depicted his dad, would have to look like some sort of dream crushing Tiger Mom
 
Comic work? You mean for backgrounds? Gotta say though, I’m not sure the exact standards and qualifications of “high art”
Early comics had... problems... with depicting humans. If you actually look at some of the early comics, you would think that the humans were barely alive...
Never knew that, did they ever show in a movie his childhood? I’d think whoever depicted his dad, would have to look like some sort of dream crushing Tiger Mom
This is from what I've gathered, his dad was a customs clerk and tried to force his son to go into politics...
 
Early comics had... problems... with depicting humans. If you actually look at some of the early comics, you would think that the humans were barely alive...

This is from what I've gathered, his dad was a customs clerk and tried to force his son to go into politics...

A reminder not to always be mega-nostalgic for past times, we got more skilled and learn more and have better technologies for better quality as time goes on, not everybody’s fault for incompetents who can’t use the tech given to them well

Living your dreams through your children is both asshole and “caring”
 
A reminder not to always be mega-nostalgic for past times, we got more skilled and learn more and have better technologies for better quality as time goes on, not everybody’s fault for incompetents who can’t use the tech given to them well
The thing was back then, they were cheap as fuck and some of the shit that went on back then during the early days of comics (aka the 'pulp fiction' days) would be disgusting to anyone with some empathy.
Living your dreams through your children is both asshole and “caring”
From what I remember, he wasn't wrong to force Adolf to politics (artists, unless you're one of the Big Names whose pictures regularly sold for tens of thousands to millions, got paid diddly squat) but he wasn't right either.
 
The thing was back then, they were cheap as fuck and some of the shit that went on back then during the early days of comics (aka the 'pulp fiction' days) would be disgusting to anyone with some empathy.

From what I remember, he wasn't wrong to force Adolf to politics (artists, unless you're one of the Big Names whose pictures regularly sold for tens of thousands to millions, got paid diddly squat) but he wasn't right either.

Yeah, I’ve read stuff like that of Robert E Howard and Edgar Rice Burroughs and at times you can’t help but get a sense of “Designated Hero” from their MCs who can kill lots of people and not show too much emotion

Hell, in a way, the setting’s cheap too. The world isn’t part of one big story, it’s just a world with many stories in it and pretty much all protagonists sorta feel the same

It’s still pretty sad and asshole
 
Eh, genes exist. Family culture exists. When you measure traditional aristocracies, such as Indian Bramin and European Nobles, they actually do outperform the general population on a variety of stats. Because they really do have better genes as long as they don't fuck it up with excessive internal breeding. Now, partially that's because these groups tend to be a bit more meritocratic than commonly understood (that brave knight might have been promoted to that position, or had started out as merely a knight, then gotten promoted to a Barron through good service).

But, if you have a class of society that promotes into itself the top, say, 0.1% of the population outside of it into it, and they do that for a 1,000 years, basic evolution suggest your going to have a class made out of authentically superior people. It actually makes perfect sense that the top leadership should come from some tiny slice of the population in a functional, established ruling class because a functional ruling class would have already taken the top 1% of families into itself, so new entrants only really come up as the product of random positive mutations.

Why we don't have quite as established a ruling class (though we have quite a narrow range of families in charge if you look into it) is that what makes someone "1%" has greatly varied and changed in the last 200 years: The fuedal order could retain a bit of stability for so long probably in part because what made a good noble (material skill) didn't all that radically change for about a 1,000 years.

The changing nature of warfare and the economy however changed what it took to be an elite, which created a disconnect between who was in power (decendents of aristocratic warrior castes) and who was the actual source of power (the "capitalists" for lack of a better word). Thus the various revolutions. Excessive interbreeding, especially at the very top, and the nobility getting less meritocratic (partially because they became less important: see France where the nobility went from the source of the Kings power in a knighthood that performed very well (outside some obvious hickups against the English) to something the Kind purposefully tried to sideline as an inconvenience) and thus less effective of course didn't help.
Do they necessarily have better genes, or just a better environment with better access to the training and education they need to rule?

Until very recently, nobility were raised and trained to rule, and that training and domestic management skill set was a major benefit to a line succeeding and prospering. The phenomenal wealth compared to the peasantry was another major factor in their success, since it also brought a much healthier environment.
 
Do they necessarily have better genes, or just a better environment with better access to the training and education they need to rule?

Until very recently, nobility were raised and trained to rule, and that training and domestic management skill set was a major benefit to a line succeeding and prospering. The phenomenal wealth compared to the peasantry was another major factor in their success, since it also brought a much healthier environment.

And depending on one bloodline or a group of bloodlines is something that looks to be very stagnant and dismissive of new blood

Democracy isn’t perfect but if we dislike them, we can lose em
 
My fear would be that instead of having a National Socialist regime, that Germany ends up with a Marxist Socialist one - with a dictator who maintains a strong alliance with Stalin instead of attacking the USSR. If Germany and the USSR took on Western democracies, the results of the war might be even worse than they were historically.

Not very likely since the Communists never had the same kind of popular support in Germany as the Nazis had. But we could see an alliance between a right-wing authoritarian but non-totalitarian Germany and the Soviet Union to nibble away at parts of Poland sooner or later. Maybe even an eventual Hohenzollern restoration in Germany.

As for Hitler, his primary focus might be on painting postcards, or perhaps landscape works of art without any people.
 
Not very likely since the Communists never had the same kind of popular support in Germany as the Nazis had. But we could see an alliance between a right-wing authoritarian but non-totalitarian Germany and the Soviet Union to nibble away at parts of Poland sooner or later. Maybe even an eventual Hohenzollern restoration in Germany.

As for Hitler, his primary focus might be on painting postcards, or perhaps landscape works of art without any people.
It was going to be someone with the right combination of charisma and anger because a whole of lot people weren't happy with how WWI ended and Hitler just happened to be guy who got tagged with "you're it".

That doesn't excuse anything he did.

As for Hitler's artwork? It's the kind of stuff you wouldn't either object to or go out of your way to notice and you're right in that he could have made a career painting postcards and landscapes.

The world is probably lucky that it was Hitler instead of someone with actual talent.
 
Not very likely since the Communists never had the same kind of popular support in Germany as the Nazis had. But we could see an alliance between a right-wing authoritarian but non-totalitarian Germany and the Soviet Union to nibble away at parts of Poland sooner or later. Maybe even an eventual Hohenzollern restoration in Germany.

As for Hitler, his primary focus might be on painting postcards, or perhaps landscape works of art without any people.

Eh, I wouldn't underestimate the ability of the Soviet Union to, eventually, build up a communist take over. The Spanish Civil War starts around 1936, and I'm not sure how that goes. If the USSR is able to win that, the USSR certainly wouldn't be shy about pushing more of those kind of things to undermine Western Governments.
 

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