Adolf Hitler managed to get into Art School?

As if simply being born to power or related to it makes one a great ruler
The nobility is not generally speaking chosen randomly, the first king is usually good at his job, and his judgement is trusted. Therefore it's not unreasonable to think that someone genetically similar to him, raised by him, and the people he picked with his trusted judgement, to do this one thing, would make a good king. It's not necessarily true, but it's a reasonable conclusion to come to.
 
The nobility is not generally speaking chosen randomly, the first king is usually good at his job, and his judgement is trusted. Therefore it's not unreasonable to think that someone genetically similar to him, raised by him, and the people he picked with his trusted judgement, to do this one thing, would make a good king. It's not necessarily true, but it's a reasonable conclusion to come to.

I think there would still be a degradation and possibly an intense dislike for people who have merit but aren't of long royal bloodlines
 
I think there would still be a degradation and possibly an intense dislike for people who have merit but aren't of long royal bloodlines
Merit in the sense we're talking about generally involves training, education, and health, all of which were at an absolute premium for anyone not of a royal bloodline in the past.
 
Merit in the sense we're talking about generally involves training, education, and health, all of which were at an absolute premium for anyone not of a royal bloodline in the past.

How'd you get things like King Louis during the French Revolution?

I'd think over time, even with immense responsibilities and enemies around, they'll grow decadent
 
My fear would be that instead of having a National Socialist regime, that Germany ends up with a Marxist Socialist one - with a dictator who maintains a strong alliance with Stalin instead of attacking the USSR. If Germany and the USSR took on Western democracies, the results of the war might be even worse than they were historically.
It could get Japan a deal where they attack the soviets in return for oil form America.
 
How'd you get things like King Louis during the French Revolution?
I'm not sure what you're asking, how do systems fail sometimes? Just because a thing should work most of the time doesn't mean it will always work all of the time.

I'd think over time, even with immense responsibilities and enemies around, they'll grow decadent
Every human system can be degenerated.
 
How'd you get things like King Louis during the French Revolution?

I'd think over time, even with immense responsibilities and enemies around, they'll grow decadent

Well, admittedly the System that gave a King Louis power had been steadily dismantled, often by the king, since at least Richelieu in the 1630s, where much of the practical power of the Nobility, and the meritocratic elements that kept it healthy, were curtailed till they were basically ornamental by the 1800s. Considering the Nobility as a power structure were basically crushed after the Fronde of 1650, being steadily supplanted by a non-noble bureaucratic/buisness class which eventually overthrew that last bit of Noble rule, the King himself, part of the amazing thing with France is how long it still took the ancient regime to fall. Probably because you had Louis XIV figures, the Sun King, who was individually competent enough and strong willed enough to bring all the power of the noble class into himself ("I am the State") without collapsing everything. Having one ruler who reigned for almost 72 years, previously had a King rule for 30 years, and the next and last King, Louis XV, ruling for a total of 59 years, may have played a role as well, and may be a reason why France proceeded in the way it did, now that I'm looking at it:

France, between 1610-1774, only had 3 Kings (Louis XIII-XV). 3 rulers over a 164 year period is probably nearly unprecedented period of stability at the top: In the first 164 years of the Roman Empire for example, from 27 BC to 137 AD, there were 14 Emperors. During the same period of time in England from 1610 to 1774 there were 12 Rulers of England, of whom two were (aristocratic) Cromwell after the English civil war, one was the co-ruler of the Netherlands after the Glorious revolution, and another was a distantly related German selected to avoid Catholics. So, not only did England have 4x as many rulers as France, England had some 2 revolutions, one merging of states (England and Scotland merging) and in summary about 5 different (if somewhat closely related) families rule England. So More families rotated through the English Kingship in the time it took France to rotate through 3 Kings!

Russia likewise had 16 Czars, The holy roman Empire had 10 Emperors, the Ottoman Empire had 15 Sultans, China had 18 Emperors (inflated a bit due to a civil war where there were two emperors floating around at the same time). Japan had 11 emperors and 9 shoguns.

It really seems that France in the 1600-1700s had an unprecedented run of stability (or stagnation, to put a more negative spin on it) of the top leadership, something I'm not sure has ever been repeated somewhere else. Hm, History class never really emphasizes just how bizarre the political system in France actually was: Luis XIV the sun king is generally held out as a model of his age of absolute Monarchy in history, rather than the bizarre quirk of fate he actually is.
 
The Nazi's existed well before Hitler, Hitler was even the least Neo-Pagan and batfuck of its "leaders". One of its founders was the gilded age and world war one era variant of a NEET and a Crackhead.

It likely would still take over, but it wouldn't have been as explosive and sudden. Conversely, it would probably look a lot more like the KMT under Chiang Kai Shek and thus last a lot longer in power.
 
Would the National Socialists still rise to power under another leader?

Would Germany go Socialist/Communist but maybe compete with Stalin? Or submit to him?

I know it's besides the point but is there any reason to assume Hitler becoming a professional artist or architect would preclude him from having a mikitary and/or subsequent political career? :p

I mean I doubt that there is much work for an Institute trained artist in Weimar Germany... Or Austria for that matter.

Maybe an architect...
 
Would the National Socialists still rise to power under another leader?

Impossible to say, but there was no shortage of candidates. Hitler's leadership wasn't assured, and there were factional struggles. Anyone could have been the boss, be it Ernst Röhm (then with extra emphasis on Socialism being made, and with a side of LGBT the SA was infamous for...), but likewise Goebbels, Göring, Hess or Himmler could have ended up on top.

Would Germany go Socialist/Communist but maybe compete with Stalin? Or submit to him?

That would depend on how the new Führer would stand towards the business interests that backed Hitler (and saw Röhm purged) in OTL.
 
Impossible to say, but there was no shortage of candidates. Hitler's leadership wasn't assured, and there were factional struggles. Anyone could have been the boss, be it Ernst Röhm (then with extra emphasis on Socialism being made, and with a side of LGBT the SA was infamous for...), but likewise Goebbels, Göring, Hess or Himmler could have ended up on top.

Aside from Himmler, I think most people don’t even know those guys even existed
 
When you actually see Adolf's artworks, you see that he was phenomenal in the type of art known as 'architectural'. Basically, he was the equivalent of a concept artist, as back then paintings were used as proof of concept for buildings. Modeling hasn't taken off for buildings yet and the LEGO bricks (one of the replacements for old-school models) won't be invented until the 1950s.

It should also be noted that Adolf Hitler brought to the table something that the rest of the Nazis didn't have: an almost godly oratorial capability thanks to his emotions' ability to flood the room and 'sync' with the crowd.
 
When you actually see Adolf's artworks, you see that he was phenomenal in the type of art known as 'architectural'. Basically, he was the equivalent of a concept artist, as back then paintings were used as proof of concept for buildings. Modeling hasn't taken off for buildings yet and the LEGO bricks (one of the replacements for old-school models) won't be invented until the 1950s.

Phenomenal, yes

But I think Art School’s qualifications for skill are sorta vague and something about “humanity” and the like
 
Phenomenal, yes

But I think Art School’s qualifications for skill are sorta vague and something about “humanity” and the like
The thing is, he would have been the sort of guy doing poster and later comic work... if given half a chance. Problem was, he never did. It also didn't help that his dad was... not the best person either and kept pushing him to politics (probably a reason why he ran to Germany and joined the army).
 

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