United States 2nd Amendment Legal Cases and Law Discussion

Emperor Tippy

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They were straight up making and selling illegal full-auto conversion parts.

Nope.

The YouTuber was saying his videos were sponsored by another business. All of the charges against him are iffy even if the autokeycards were actually machine guns.

More importantly though, what was sold was metal cards with a design etched into it. They were not machine guns. This is ATF straight up making up laws and charging people for violating made up laws.

The people who are legally liable are the ones who bought the keycards and then cut them up to become lighting links. They are the ones who illegally produced machine guns.
 

prinCZess

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Winkler defines the "judicial Second Amendment" as how courts interpret the constitutional provision in their decisions, and the "aspirational Second Amendment" as how the amendment is used in political dialogue.
The better description here in the latter case is 'what the amendment actually means'.
Because courts have been delaying and denying Second Amendment rights for centuries in what is nothing less than abject failure to uphold that actual meaning and cowardice by the judicial system.
"permitless carry regimes,"
In today's issue of 'Oxymoron Quarterly' we have this whopper, wherein by not issuing regulations a government is a 'regime'--a form of governance characterized by their regulation of the citizenry.
"It's a rallying cry. It's easy. It's a sound bite," she said. "But the Second Amendment gets thrown around politically in a way that's not based in law."
Law failing to uphold rights is nothing new, lady.

"The gun debate has gone far beyond judicial interpretations of the Second Amendment and these days has much more to do with personal, political and partisan identity," he said.
Well...This may be the most correct thing in the article.
 

LordsFire

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Pass national constitutional carry and revoke the laws that criminalize automatic rifles.

If America First is serious about grinding the institutions to a halt, then this needs to be first on it's list and the second needs to be bills that put common carrier laws onto banks

We don't need to pass 'constitutional carry,' it is already the actual written law of the land. That's why it's called constitutional.

What we need to pass, is a law allowing summary citizen's arrest of any law enforcement officer or politician that attempts to infringe on that constitutional right, with felony-level prosecution.
 

The Immortal Watch Dog

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We don't need to pass 'constitutional carry,' it is already the actual written law of the land. That's why it's called constitutional.

Yeah that's shorthand on my part for passing a law that would recognize the original intent of the 2 and 1 A and roll back gun regs.

A nullification bill I guess.

What we need to pass, is a law allowing summary citizen's arrest of any law enforcement officer or politician that attempts to infringe on that constitutional right, with felony-level prosecution.

100% agreement here.
 

ShadowArxxy

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I'd have to wait to see what Fudd Busters says about this, as he is an actual gun lawyer.

In related news, I had zero fucking idea the AA-12 was embroiled in a criminal case against the guys who made it for doing lots of ass-backwards things that violated the NFA:



Apparently, the ATF destroyed all but one AA-12 in the country, and the one surviving copy is the only semi-auto receiver Sol Invictus Arms has made, due to the criminal case.


Just to clarify on this point , here is the official statement regarding that situation by Sol Invictus Arms themselves: Sol Invictus Arms Statement Regarding AA-12 Shotguns and the ATF Recall
 

bullethead

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https://www.the-sietch.com/index.ph...ding-ideas-the-imperial-union-of-brazil.7249/ so since I like my fiction being at surface level resemble reality, I wanted to ask you guys on what would be a realistic future assault rifle, pistol and shotguns IF YOU HAD unlimited budget to design and produce them ?
Wrong thread buddy, you're looking for this one:
 

bullethead

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Here's an update on the NRA legal clusterfuck:
The National Rifle Association of America shrank significantly through the first eight months of 2021, according to detailed financial records obtained by The Reload.

The contraction came in membership, revenue, and program services across the organization. The group’s income missed the mark against its own budget projections and against what it brought in over the same period in 2020. At the same time, spending on legal services exceeded both. Legal fees ballooned more than $6.5 million from 2020 to a total of $31.1 million or about 20 percent of the group’s expenses.

The amount spent on lawyers was more than ten times the amount the NRA spent on programs aimed at education and training, competitive shooting, law enforcement, community engagement, the NRA Range, NRA Firearms Museum, and school security combined. Legal fees were the second largest expense for the organization behind costs associated with getting and keeping members.

The gun-rights group’s membership fell to its lowest point since 2017. Its revenue dropped to $165.2 million—missing its own projections by $19.4 million. That brings revenue to nearly half what it was in 2018, thanks mostly to a drop in membership dues. Spending is down even further: In 2018, the group spent more than it brought in, but it has paid down $14 million of its debt and run a slight surplus through August 2021.
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