Airedale260

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Except that, no, if there is a vote then of course it can refuse to issue cert. It would also likely be required to hold another election.

No, it can’t. They are given a time frame if there’s any real doubt to do recounts (note that there ARE provisions for postponements but those have to be agreed upon). If they did find tampered ballots, then authorities would contact each voter individually to confirm who they voted for -which would take time, hence why the postponement option is available. There is no “do-over” and never has been.

Hypothetically, if refusing to certify is legal if done for certain reasons that are not the reasons given in this case (if I heard correctly, concerns about the results in a county they aren't even in).

What they can do is request a postponement until a specific issue is addressed, but it’s for a clearly defined period of time and only really done to resolve a specific issue. It also has to have a concrete reason.

More importantly, yes, the issue that the Cochise and Mohave supervisors was NOT in their jurisdiction. It occurred in Maricopa County, and so only the Maricopa supervisors have the authority to review it. They did and were satisfied with the result, so that’s that.
 

Sergeant Foley

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No, it can’t. They are given a time frame if there’s any real doubt to do recounts (note that there ARE provisions for postponements but those have to be agreed upon). If they did find tampered ballots, then authorities would contact each voter individually to confirm who they voted for -which would take time, hence why the postponement option is available. There is no “do-over” and never has been.



What they can do is request a postponement until a specific issue is addressed, but it’s for a clearly defined period of time and only really done to resolve a specific issue. It also has to have a concrete reason.

More importantly, yes, the issue that the Cochise and Mohave supervisors was NOT in their jurisdiction. It occurred in Maricopa County, and so only the Maricopa supervisors have the authority to review it. They did and were satisfied with the result, so that’s that.
Sounds like the 2023 legislative session will be intriguing in Arizona State Legislature
 

Airedale260

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@Sergeant Foley, I personally hope it’s Walker; the polling has Warnock slightly ahead but it’s still very close. I’m guessing Walker pulls off a very close upset

The main thing Walker has going for him, unlike Lake or Oz, is that he’s not only kept it focused on issues but he’s an actual Georgian.

So, we shall see.
 

Sergeant Foley

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@Sergeant Foley, I personally hope it’s Walker; the polling has Warnock slightly ahead but it’s still very close. I’m guessing Walker pulls off a very close upset

The main thing Walker has going for him, unlike Lake or Oz, is that he’s not only kept it focused on issues but he’s an actual Georgian.

So, we shall see.
We're gonna find out soon enough in three days
 

DarthOne

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Yet Republicans control majority of the statewide offices in Georgia and have a supermajority in the Georgia General Assembly.

What part of ‘uniparty’ don’t you get? The GOP establishment is full of traitors and RINOs who don’t want to rock the boat because it’ll effect their bottom line.
 

Planchar

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What part of ‘uniparty’ don’t you get? The GOP establishment is full of traitors and RINOs who don’t want to rock the boat because it’ll effect their bottom line.
Just going to point out that those traitors and RINOs are the reason Biden couldn’t pass BBB or expand the Supreme Court, or forgive student debt or the whole host of other things that Viden has tried and failed to do.

Your whole Uniparty bullshit is tiresome. Just because some people recognize that the GOP has a finite amount of political capital and that the cost of some fights is not worth it does not make them RINOS or traitors.

For as much as you hate MurkowskI, Romney and Collins, remember, they are part of the reason we have a 6-3 SCOTUS
 

Vyor

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Just going to point out that those traitors and RINOs are the reason Biden couldn’t pass BBB or expand the Supreme Court, or forgive student debt or the whole host of other things that Viden has tried and failed to do.

Your whole Uniparty bullshit is tiresome. Just because some people recognize that the GOP has a finite amount of political capital and that the cost of some fights is not worth it does not make them RINOS or traitors.

For as much as you hate MurkowskI, Romney and Collins, remember, they are part of the reason we have a 6-3 SCOTUS

All three of those tried to stop Kavanaugh from getting in.
 

Sergeant Foley

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Just going to point out that those traitors and RINOs are the reason Biden couldn’t pass BBB or expand the Supreme Court, or forgive student debt or the whole host of other things that Viden has tried and failed to do.

Your whole Uniparty bullshit is tiresome. Just because some people recognize that the GOP has a finite amount of political capital and that the cost of some fights is not worth it does not make them RINOS or traitors.

For as much as you hate MurkowskI, Romney and Collins, remember, they are part of the reason we have a 6-3 SCOTUS
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I’m really curious as to why AZ “patriots” are content with Democrat Katie Hobbs as a governor. I guess they like the idea of gun control, abortion, illegal alien criminals, LGBT, etc? Why is everyone standing around twiddling their thumbs while this happens?


Arizona certifies 2022 election results amid threat of more GOP challenges


Arizona officials certified the state’s vote canvass on Monday, officially declaring winners in the high-profile gubernatorial and Senate races, among other contests, as GOP figures vow to fight the election results in court.

The once low-profile certification process turned into a fierce battle between election officials, Republican candidates and some county boards as the GOP seized on printer malfunctions in the state’s most populous county, in part leading Arizona to become an epicenter for voter disenfranchisement allegations.

Election officials have acknowledged mishaps but insist no voter was disenfranchised. Some GOP figures and their supporters claimed officials were lying, unsuccessfully calling on county boards to not certify their canvasses in recent days before turning their ire to Monday’s state-level certification.

But Arizona Secretary of State Katie Hobbs (D), who is now governor-elect, Gov. Doug Ducey (R), state Attorney General Mark Brnovich (R) and Arizona Supreme Court Chief Justice Robert Brutinel still met to canvass last month’s election on Monday, a timeline mandated by state law.

“Arizona had a successful election,” Hobbs said. “But too often throughout the process, powerful voices proliferated misinformation that threatened to disenfranchise voters. Democracy prevailed, but it’s not out of the woods. 2024 will bring a host of challenges from the election denial community that we must prepare for.”

The certification paves the way for automatic recounts to begin in three close races — attorney general, state superintendent and a state House seat near Phoenix — and officials signed certificates of election for the other contests.

Hobbs’s team will now go before a state judge, who is poised to officially order the three recounts.

But Monday’s meeting is also likely to spark multiple GOP-led lawsuits, as gubernatorial candidate Kari Lake (R), who lost to Hobbs, and attorney general candidate Abe Hamadeh (R), who trails his Democratic rival by the slimmest of margins ahead of the automatic recount, promise to take legal action.

Under state law, they have five days to formally contest the results in court.

Lake and Hamadeh’s campaigns, as well as other Republicans, criticized Hobbs’s role in signing the certification paperwork on Monday, arguing she had a conflict of interest because she was a candidate in the gubernatorial race.

Hobbs’s office pushed back by arguing the meeting was merely a ministerial act — counties handle and tabulate ballots themselves — and noting that Ducey and Brnovich, both Republicans, attended the meeting.

Monday’s certification came after all of Arizona’s 15 counties certified their vote canvasses. Republicans took aim at Hobbs’s office for promising to prosecute county officials who did not abide by last week’s statutory deadline for counties to certify.

GOP board members in two ruby-red counties — Mohave and Cochise — sought to delay certifying their vote canvasses.

Mohave County supervisors ultimately did so hours before a statutory deadline last week, and Republicans have seized on Board Chair Ron Gould’s (R) comment that he was told he would be arrested if he did not abide by the state law, saying he was only voting to certify “under duress.”

In Cochise County, the GOP-controlled board defied the statutory deadline based on an unfounded conspiracy over vote machine certification, leading to lawsuits from Hobbs’s office and an outside group.

A state judge ruled the supervisors’ decision unlawful and ordered them to certify the results last Thursday.

The next day, Hobbs’s office asked Brnovich, Arizona’s attorney general, and Cochise County Attorney Brian McIntyre to “investigate and take appropriate enforcement action” against the two GOP supervisors who declined to comply with the deadline.

McIntyre had declined to represent the supervisors in court, telling them their refusal to not certify was unlawful.


In Broad Daylight: Hobbs ‘Certifies’ Stolen Election with a help of Never-Trump McCain Republican Establishment
 

Abhorsen

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What part of ‘uniparty’ don’t you get? The GOP establishment is full of traitors and RINOs who don’t want to rock the boat because it’ll effect their bottom line.
You don't seem to get what the Uniparty is. They hate each other, and they really do buy into their differences mattering. The reason they are a uniparty is that their actual values (I want power and control) are very similar, so it doesn't matter much which one is in charge.
 

DarthOne

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You don't seem to get what the Uniparty is. They hate each other, and they really do buy into their differences mattering. The reason they are a uniparty is that their actual values (I want power and control) are very similar, so it doesn't matter much which one is in charge.

That just means that they’ll work together against anyone who will threaten said power and control. Because anyone who actually wants to change things for this county would be a threat to both. So my point stands.
 

Abhorsen

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That just means that they’ll work together against anyone who will threaten said power and control. Because anyone who actually wants to change things for this county would be a threat to both. So my point stands.
Fortunately, there's a 0% chance that Walker isn't going to be a uniparty member if he wins, so there is no great freakout. You are also missing that they view the other side as a threat to their power and control as well. A huge one.
 

DarthOne

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Fortunately, there's a 0% chance that Walker isn't going to be a uniparty member if he wins, so there is no great freakout. You are also missing that they view the other side as a threat to their power and control as well. A huge one.

You say that like it’s a good thing.

Which by their actions translates to ‘they’ll go back to fighting each other once they don’t need each other’.
 

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