We have no alliances with Taiwan.
We have the word of our president basically.
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We have the word of our president basically.
Vyor
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Taiwan Relations Act says you're wrong.
Yes they do though:
Trump in DC speech calls for death penalty for convicted drug dealers
Former President Trump on Tuesday voiced support for imposing the death penalty as punishment for convicted drug dealers as part of a speech in which he laid out a series of drastic measures to cur…
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(Not the first or only time he's done this).
And Trump never did shit about the Surveillance state either. He actually tried to get it stronger:
Trump Administration Asks Congress to Reauthorize N.S.A.’s Deactivated Call Records Program (Published 2019)
The White House is seeking reauthorization of a law that lets the N.S.A. gain access to logs of Americans’ phone and text records — while acknowledging that the program has been indefinitely halted.
Look up how we fund the MIL through cost plus contracts, which encourage wasting money cause it earns the company more. Boeing does this on steroids.
As for schooling? Most of the republicans don't do stuff on it, though I do support them when they do. But more important, they won't get rid of student loans.
We don't have an alliance with Taiwan. We don't even recognize it as a country. We don't even promise it safety. We actually have a policy of Strategic Ambiguity about whether or not we will defend them.
We aren't selling stuff to Ukraine, we are sending them billions of dollars of gear and cash. I got no problem with weapon sales to non-horrific countries. I do have a problem with the government giving them gifts of it's citizen's money.
So no, they don't believe in liberty.
Vyor
My influence grows!
Yes they do though:
(Not the first or only time he's done this).Trump in DC speech calls for death penalty for convicted drug dealers
Former President Trump on Tuesday voiced support for imposing the death penalty as punishment for convicted drug dealers as part of a speech in which he laid out a series of drastic measures to cur…
And Trump never did shit about the Surveillance state either. He actually tried to get it stronger:
I never said trump himself. I said american first republicans.
The TRA says "The TRA does not guarantee the U.S. will intervene militarily if the PRC attacks or invades Taiwan nor does it relinquish it, as its primary purpose is to ensure the US's Taiwan policy will not be changed unilaterally by the president and ensure any decision to defend Taiwan will be made with the consent of Congress."
Congress had a Taiwan Policy Act that got introduced but seems to have gotten nowhere. THAT would have been am alliance.
We are giving and selling Ukraine old stuff.Yes they do though:
Trump in DC speech calls for death penalty for convicted drug dealers
Former President Trump on Tuesday voiced support for imposing the death penalty as punishment for convicted drug dealers as part of a speech in which he laid out a series of drastic measures to cur…
(Not the first or only time he's done this).
And Trump never did shit about the Surveillance state either. He actually tried to get it stronger:
Trump Administration Asks Congress to Reauthorize N.S.A.’s Deactivated Call Records Program (Published 2019)
The White House is seeking reauthorization of a law that lets the N.S.A. gain access to logs of Americans’ phone and text records — while acknowledging that the program has been indefinitely halted.www.nytimes.com
Look up how we fund the MIL through cost plus contracts, which encourage wasting money cause it earns the company more. Boeing does this on steroids.
As for schooling? Most of the republicans don't do stuff on it, though I do support them when they do. But more important, they won't get rid of student loans.
We don't have an alliance with Taiwan. We don't even recognize it as a country. We don't even promise it safety. We actually have a policy of Strategic Ambiguity about whether or not we will defend them.
We aren't selling stuff to Ukraine, we are sending them billions of dollars of gear and cash. I got no problem with weapon sales to non-horrific countries. I do have a problem with the government giving them gifts of it's citizen's money.
So no, they don't believe in liberty.
Vyor
My influence grows!
I thought that passed, fair enough.
Look, this is just...stop with the rhetorical boner stroking and fucking actually look at the details of what is going to Ukraine, and I don't mean the dollar figures.
Lot's of military hardware going to Ukraine is stuff that otherwise would likely have ended up scrapped without serving any useful purpose for the tax dollars put into them.
On a pure financial level that I would hope a libertarian can understand, we save money as a nation by giving this stuff to Ukraine to use, instead of keeping it in storage indefinitely and then sending it to scrap when it expires or ages out. The money and gear going to Ukraine is also saving everyone more headaches down the road by defanging the Bear in the global public perception, and killing Russians arms export business, which will leave them further isolated. The less gear and less modern gear, Russia has to use, the less it can use to coerce any of it's other neighbors, and not just the Baltics or NATO.
Look at how the Russians are having to beg Iran and North Korean for ammo because the corruption endemic in Russia has hollowed out the once vaunted Red Army.
Libertarians also need to understand that if they expect the GOP to basically let them take the drivers seat or they will let the Dems have power, the GOP base may just decide they would rather Libertarians burn with them. Compromise needs to work both ways, and Libertarians needs to realize they will not be able to unilaterally dictate candidates or platforms.
It isn't odd at all, remember Martha's vineyard? The fact is that unlike Trump DeSantis doesnt open his mouth until its strictly needed which obviously means he is harder to smear.
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Minnesota Democrats regained control of the Minnesota State Senate
... He is leader of America First, so no, that ain't a valid objection.
Now yes, there are a few Republicans who are pro liberty, and some are America First, but America First is at best a better group
Yeah, I noticed this. I'm kinda bummed we didn't spoil it. But then this just shows how awful Oz was as a candidate, so I don't see why you are bragging.
Uh huh.
$1.1 Billion in Additional Security Assistance for Ukraine
The Defense Department announced approximately $1.1 billion in additional security assistance for Ukraine under the Ukraine Security Assistance Initiative.
www.defense.gov
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Here are the high-end weapons Zelenskyy hopes the new Ukraine aid bill will provide
The Senate has passed a $40 billion aid package for Ukraine that will enable the Biden administration to transfer more advanced, high-end weapons systems in order to counter Russia.
www.defensenews.com
On top of that, even the Presidential Drawdown Authority stuff isn't being sold to them. We are giving it to them, when those weapons were paid for with stolen money.
I don't need everything. I need something of value. And people keep on saying that "Oh, but you agree with the republicans" and I keep having to point out that the policies you want your candidates to have are not the ones they actually have. Oz is pro gun control & pro transitioning kids.
I'm quite willing to compromise with someone who actually believes in my values. But so, so few of the options do. I'm not even asking them to End the Fed, but at least axe a TLA if you are president.
Vyor
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Lake is probably going to win, looking at predictit.
KilroywasNOTHere
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do you know how long people have been saying that? since AT LEAST Obama.
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Predictions on the dragged-out counting on the Nevada and Arizona US Senate races?
Social media purges.
Lawfair and more hatred against the institutions of power.
Another thing people need to understand is that the average American really fucking hates Eastern Europe if he knows anything about it at all.
So any Republican simping for that drug addict globalist puppet or big talking the other drug addict globalist puppet was going to get sneered at.
Working class people look at that flag and go "anyone with a Ukraine flag outside their house is an idiot and a traitor. Fuck giving money to other countries I was middle class under Trump and I'm back to being poor again."
Can't win when you care more about drama between two cleptocratic shitholes peopled by barbarians who shit in igloos than you do your own citizens.
So any Republican simping for that drug addict globalist puppet or big talking the other drug addict globalist puppet was going to get sneered at.
Working class people look at that flag and go "anyone with a Ukraine flag outside their house is an idiot and a traitor. Fuck giving money to other countries I was middle class under Trump and I'm back to being poor again."
Can't win when you care more about drama between two cleptocratic shitholes peopled by barbarians who shit in igloos than you do your own citizens.
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