prinCZess

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McAuliffe plunged to 57c (he was at 68c last week)
As someone who wasn't really following Virginia at all until the recent brew-ha-has that bounced past local or state news and into national...Seems like the story of the last few months to election day, whether McAuliffe loses or not, is just how much he cratered here at the end with events and his own foot-in-mouth moments trying to address or downplay them.

Based solely on that national, just-made-aware-of status...Youngkin kind've looks like generic Republican politician #5824 other than being outspoken on the schooling issue(s) of the state, but with how much of a fiasco there's been in that respect in Virginia it looks like it might well be enough to win him the race.
 

Husky_Khan

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Oh no...



White Nationalists have shown up standing outside of Glenn's campaign bus supporting him while wielding Tiki torches and wearing collared shirts. :unsure:

His Democratic rival DNC Chair Terry McAufliffe has condemned this behavior and said it's disqualifying... :eek:



And for extra funnies...

 

Husky_Khan

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Well looks like the Lincoln Project took credit for the stunt though it's far from confirmed. Especially since the idea seemed to be to sell it as legitimate White Nationalists showing up considering the initial reactions from Democrats and even those involved in said publicity stunt.



 

49ersfootball

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Well looks like the Lincoln Project took credit for the stunt though it's far from confirmed. Especially since the idea seemed to be to sell it as legitimate White Nationalists showing up considering the initial reactions from Democrats and even those involved in said publicity stunt.




Damn shame the VA Dems are on the verge of getting wiped out.

Big question is whether United States Senators Tim Kaine (D-VA) & Mark Warner (D-VA) will suffer the same fate in 2024 & 2026 respectively ?

A.) Yes: Youngkin is likely gunning for one of those US Senate seats

B.) No: VA Dems will rebound

*I should note the VA Dems still control the VA State Senate (it'll be up in 2023).
 

S'task

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Damn shame the VA Dems are on the verge of getting wiped out.

Big question is whether United States Senators Tim Kaine (D-VA) & Mark Warner (D-VA) will suffer the same fate in 2024 & 2026 respectively ?

A.) Yes: Youngkin is likely gunning for one of those US Senate seats

B.) No: VA Dems will rebound

*I should note the VA Dems still control the VA State Senate (it'll be up in 2023).
Youngkin is not likely to run for Senate in 2024, Virginians generally don't like sitting governors running for Senate, seeing them as leaving their post early as being opportunistic. 2026 is likely going to be a difficult year for Republicans, especially in a State as blue as Virginia is. It's unlikely the Dems hold the White House in 2024 (it would take a miracle / fortification beyond anything they pulled in 2020) and as such I expect the headwinds to be against the party holding the White House as it usually is in the '26 midterm.
 

Airedale260

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Well looks like the Lincoln Project took credit for the stunt though it's far from confirmed. Especially since the idea seemed to be to sell it as legitimate White Nationalists showing up considering the initial reactions from Democrats and even those involved in said publicity stunt.





The only part of this that surprised me is that the Lincoln Project is still around.

I think pretty much anyone reading this knows I’m a conservative but also despite Donald Trump*. But I’m also really pissed off by things that only further split the party.

The Lincoln Project is a piece of shit and quite frankly if anyone is supporting them after this, just go join the Democrats because it’s quite clear they aren’t “conservative” by any reasonable standard in the A


Damn shame the VA Dems are on the verge of getting wiped out.

Big question is whether United States Senators Tim Kaine (D-VA) & Mark Warner (D-VA) will suffer the same fate in 2024 & 2026 respectively ?

A.) Yes: Youngkin is likely gunning for one of those US Senate seats

B.) No: VA Dems will rebound

*I should note the VA Dems still control the VA State Senate (it'll be up in 2023).

Youngkin isn’t going to run for the Senate against Warner. He’s better off serving a full term as governor (since his term expires in 2026) and he would be in an excellent position to challenge Kaine if he so desires.

I’d note that that also depends on what happens in 2024, and at this point we have no

It's unlikely the Dems hold the White House in 2024 (it would take a miracle / fortification beyond anything they pulled in 2020) and as such I expect the headwinds to be against the party holding the White House as it usually is in the '26 midterm.

That may not necessarily be the case, though. Sure, Biden is proving beyond all doubt that he’s still the idiot we all know and love to bash, but if Trump is the Republican in 2024 it’s far from a sure thing*. Not because of any efforts to sabotage the vote, but you’re drastically underestimating the number of people who despise Biden but also hate Trump even more.

Personally, I’d prefer Ron DeSantis since both wings of the party prefer him, but I don’t know if he will actually run given how his wife has been diagnosed with breast cancer. In any case I hope she makes a full and speedy recovery.

Edit: *-Unless of course it’s actually Kamala Harris, in which case, Trump probably destroys her because he’s at least aware of what planet he’s on and has competent subordinates.
 

prinCZess

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Edit: *-Unless of course it’s actually Kamala Harris, in which case, Trump probably destroys her because he’s at least aware of what planet he’s on and has competent subordinates.
You think Trump has the better head on his shoulders in a Trump v. Harris matchup? I suppose that tracks. I can only imagine the blowback and blowups that would occur. In a true nightmare-scenario you even have things coming to blows! You know the Democratic campaign in that matchup would be full of head games and be looking for some kind of big, hard, erupting story and a witness to it ala Deepthroat.
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I won't apologize. None of you can make me!
 

49ersfootball

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Youngkin is not likely to run for Senate in 2024, Virginians generally don't like sitting governors running for Senate, seeing them as leaving their post early as being opportunistic. 2026 is likely going to be a difficult year for Republicans, especially in a State as blue as Virginia is. It's unlikely the Dems hold the White House in 2024 (it would take a miracle / fortification beyond anything they pulled in 2020) and as such I expect the headwinds to be against the party holding the White House as it usually is in the '26 midterm.
You think Kaine should be fine in 2024 ?
 

Terthna

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Youngkin is not likely to run for Senate in 2024, Virginians generally don't like sitting governors running for Senate, seeing them as leaving their post early as being opportunistic. 2026 is likely going to be a difficult year for Republicans, especially in a State as blue as Virginia is. It's unlikely the Dems hold the White House in 2024 (it would take a miracle / fortification beyond anything they pulled in 2020) and as such I expect the headwinds to be against the party holding the White House as it usually is in the '26 midterm.
To be fair, what they pulled off in 2020 went so far beyond anything they'd ever tried before, none of us expected them to try something like that, let alone that they'd get away with it; which they have. Heck; some people who supposedly oppose the Democrats still refuse to beleive that what happened actually happened. As things stand, they may just go for broke in 2024; depeding on who the candidates are. It's also possible that, with the help of the RINOs, they'll simply manipulate the results of the Republican primary; and hope that kills any attempt at another populist election victory.



That may not necessarily be the case, though. Sure, Biden is proving beyond all doubt that he’s still the idiot we all know and love to bash, but if Trump is the Republican in 2024 it’s far from a sure thing*. Not because of any efforts to sabotage the vote, but you’re drastically underestimating the number of people who despise Biden but also hate Trump even more.

Personally, I’d prefer Ron DeSantis since both wings of the party prefer him, but I don’t know if he will actually run given how his wife has been diagnosed with breast cancer. In any case I hope she makes a full and speedy recovery.

Edit: *-Unless of course it’s actually Kamala Harris, in which case, Trump probably destroys her because he’s at least aware of what planet he’s on and has competent subordinates.
I'm not the biggest fan of Trump myself; personally, I think he was just too weak, and vastly underestimated what he was up against. That said, I think you're drastically overestimating the number of people who outright hate Trump, yet also don't blindly support the establishment. DeSantis does seem like a better candidate though; it's too bad he wouldn't stand any better chance of winning than Trump would, seeing as there's been little progress in fixing our throughly broken electing system thus far.
 

Terthna

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@Terthna
I'm not sure that Trump was weak so much as ill prepared for the level of opposition he would face or the amount of backstabbing that would take place among his 'own' people. He truly failed to realize how defensive the bureaucracy was going to be with him attempting to 'drain the swamp' which was their livelihood.
Regardless, I'd need to see that he's learned from his mistakes before I'd support him for a 2024 presidential run. At the very least, he needs to show me that he's gotten better at surrounding himself with people who won't try to backstab him at every opportunity.
 

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