Who wins the 2022 NBA Championship?

  • A.) Milwaukee Bucks (defending NBA Champions)

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • B.) Miami Heat

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • C.) Philadelphia 76ers

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • D.) Boston Celtics

    Votes: 1 25.0%
  • E.) Phoenix Suns

    Votes: 2 50.0%
  • F.) Memphis Grizzlies

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • G.) Golden State Warriors

    Votes: 1 25.0%
  • H.) Dallas Mavericks

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • Total voters
    4
  • Poll closed .

bintananth

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Let's not forget about the Celtics almost lost last night blowing a 13-point lead. That is NOT gonna cut it when you're facing the Warriors.
I remember when the Warriors went 73-9 and basically spent the entire season along with most of the playoffs on cruise control.

That Warriors team did not win the trophy largely because Steph Curry got hurt and the Warriors could not adaquetly compensate.

Boston in 6 is my guess.
 

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The home team wins game seven 80% of the time. When the visiting team wins game seven they got lucky.
... No. That's simply not a good statistic.

First, the 80% is an overstatement, it's more like 76%, which would be 3-1 odds. Second, the home win percentage is much more like 60-65% when we look at all games.


Now why the difference for game seven? A game seven team (outside of the finals) has the better seed, meaning they did better in the regular season, which usually means they are the better team. So what you are observing is really a correlation between the better seeded team being a better team than anything else.

Only the Heat clearly weren't the best team in the East. They weren't even the second best (that would be the Bucks). The discrepancy is from how the Celtics started horribly, then were brought together a little before halfway through the season.

And this isn't that unusual anymore. With stars resting, etc, teams care less about their regular season record, only that they make it to the playoffs, which we can see happen in the last couple of years.

If we look at just 2016 onwards, the road record becomes 11/24 by my count (hand counted from this list, could have miscounted).

Or, just look at the series: Only two games were won at home! One by both teams!

So no, that's a bad statistic.

On top of this, the discounting of gambling markets is just a bad idea. A gambling market is the most reliable predictor of outcomes we know of, as it works somewhat similar to a normal market (with a lot of transaction tax).

Celtics got lucky alright. Jimmy Butler was a missed three pointer away from sending the Heat to the NBA Finals.
Only he's shit at 3's. He had at best a 40% chance to make that. That doesn't even guarantee a win, so no, while scary, it wasn't just luck.
 

bintananth

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... No. That's simply not a good statistic.

First, the 80% is an overstatement, it's more like 76%, which would be 3-1 odds. Second, the home win percentage is much more like 60-65% when we look at all games.
If you include Baseball it's more like 55% on a good day. An MLB team winning 89-90 games is playoff worthy. 100-62 or better means that practically everything went right.

Note: The NBA, MLB, and NHL seasons push human endurance to the limits.
 

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If you include Baseball it's more like 55% on a good day. An MLB team winning 89-90 games is playoff worthy. 100-62 or better means that practically everything went right.
I was just looking at basketball. Baseball is very weird, where since the parks are actually different sizes, you can have incredibly weird results. Like Red Sox players are taught long flies to right field are good, but in other stadiums that's an out.
 

bintananth

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I was just looking at basketball. Baseball is very weird, where since the parks are actually different sizes, you can have incredibly weird results. Like Red Sox players are taught long flies to right field are good, but in other stadiums that's an out.
Baseball is a game where skill is vastly more important than physical fitness:


He wasn't the only MLB player with birth defects.

EDIT: Jim Mercer has more birth defects than Tutankhamun had. My siblings and a I are more inbred than Tutankhamun was and our only birth defect is our shoe size: 12AAAA flat - give or take.
 
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Abhorsen

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Baseball is a game where skill is vastly more important than physical fitness:


He wasn't the only MLB player with birth defects.

EDIT: Jim Mercer has more birth defects than Tutankhamun had. My siblings and a I are more inbred than Tutankhamun was and our only birth defect is our shoe size: 12AAAA flat - give or take.
So? Interesting, but nothing to do with my point.
 

bintananth

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So? Interesting, but nothing to do with my point.
It has every to do with my point.

Add me to an NBA team and you've got a benchwarmer in their 40s who doesn't want to be there and who can say - with complete honesty - "I could easily design this building".

That last part? I told the surgeons who amputated my left big toe that I designed the OR they were using ... at least twice.

I was commenting on the ceiling when they knocked me out and I still had things to say when I woke up in post-recovery about 75-90 minutes later.
 

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It has every to do with my point.

Add me to an NBA team and you've got a benchwarmer in their 40s who doesn't want to be there and who can say - with complete honesty - "I could easily design this building".

That last part? I told the surgeons who amputated my left big toe that I designed the OR they were using ... at least twice.

I was commenting on the ceiling when they knocked me out and I still had things to say when I woke up in post-recovery about 75-90 minutes later.
This has nothing to do with the conversation about home court advantage.
 

bintananth

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We're gonna find out on Thursday and Sunday night for Games 1 and 2 respectively.
The greatest NBA "what if" I have is a backcourt of Allen Iverson in his prime plus one of my sisters. :p

My big sis Euphie is slightly shorter, almost as quick, much better from beyond 23'9", and can't dunk because she can't jump that high.

Calling her fat is a grave mistake because she thinks she's underweight when she weighs 190lbs.

EDIT: Iverson, at his best, weighed about 165-170lbs. That's a good 30lbs smaller than my siblings and I are if the NBA didn't exaggerate player sizes.
 
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