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So I've seen some break down of this; the nearly the entire port of Baltimore is now out of commission, including Naval Station Savannah, for weeks at least.

New bridge is like 10 years out, at best.

Whomever was responsible for the ship and it's condition just fucked that area for decades, and is going to cost billions, maybe trillions, of dollars in damage.
 
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So I've seen some break down of this; the nearly the entire port of Baltimore is now out of commission, including Naval Station Savannah, for weeks at least.

New bridge is like 10 years out, at best.

Whomever was responsible for the ship and it's condition just fucked that area for decades, and is going to cost billions, maybe trillions, of dollars in damage.
It won't be that long.

The port of Baltimore is way too important to both the state of Maryland and the US as a whole. Basically the instant that the S&R operation is over the investigators will pull the VDR log and start clearing.

The shipping channels will be cleared on what is essentially a crash priority basis with crews working 24/7 and zero fucks given about permits, environmental studies, etc. It wouldn't surprise me at all to see the military get involved in a fairly big way.

As for rebuilding the bridge, that will take longer but it won't be ten years. The money will be appropriated in basically thirty seconds (the only real wrangling will be how much the federal government eats vs. the state of Maryland) and again the permitting will get done on the "fuck you, this is actually important, we don't care about the red tape" priority.
 

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It won't be that long.

The port of Baltimore is way too important to both the state of Maryland and the US as a whole. Basically the instant that the S&R operation is over the investigators will pull the VDR log and start clearing.

The shipping channels will be cleared on what is essentially a crash priority basis with crews working 24/7 and zero fucks given about permits, environmental studies, etc. It wouldn't surprise me at all to see the military get involved in a fairly big way.

As for rebuilding the bridge, that will take longer but it won't be ten years. The money will be appropriated in basically thirty seconds (the only real wrangling will be how much the federal government eats vs. the state of Maryland) and again the permitting will get done on the "fuck you, this is actually important, we don't care about the red tape" priority.
I hope you are right, that is a very, very important port and bridge to have out of action for any time at all.

If the Corp of Engineers is given a crash priority basis for work, I guess 10 years won't be needed.
 

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It won't be that long.

The port of Baltimore is way too important to both the state of Maryland and the US as a whole. Basically the instant that the S&R operation is over the investigators will pull the VDR log and start clearing.

The shipping channels will be cleared on what is essentially a crash priority basis with crews working 24/7 and zero fucks given about permits, environmental studies, etc. It wouldn't surprise me at all to see the military get involved in a fairly big way.

As for rebuilding the bridge, that will take longer but it won't be ten years. The money will be appropriated in basically thirty seconds (the only real wrangling will be how much the federal government eats vs. the state of Maryland) and again the permitting will get done on the "fuck you, this is actually important, we don't care about the red tape" priority.
I wouldn't be surprised to see the owners/operators of the Dali get sued into oblivion as well.

Sure, there was a pilot on board, but the ship suffered catastrophic failures (apparently), cause still unknown, that resulted in the impact.
 

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I've read some initial estimates on the bridge rebuild at two years. Though those are literally the first engineers they could stick microphones in front of so who knows how valid that is.

Apparently, the port behind the crashed bridge is the number one disembarkment point for imported cars. So expect car prices to go up.

I'm not sure if Baltimore has it in it to not graft the hell out of the bridge project. Like I can hardly think of a more fiscally corrupt city. Chicago maybe? The bridge cost 50 million initially, but that was in 1977 dollars. I've seen estimates of between 500 to a billion for the rebuild.
 

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I wouldn't be surprised to see the owners/operators of the Dali get sued into oblivion as well.

Sure, there was a pilot on board, but the ship suffered catastrophic failures (apparently), cause still unknown, that resulted in the impact.
They are insured all the way to their maximum possible liability. Liability is also limited by multiple treaties.

Maritime law is its whole own thing and has fairly substantial differences to most law people more used to.

Total hit to the insurance company will likely be in the single digit billions.
 

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They are insured all the way to their maximum possible liability. Liability is also limited by multiple treaties.

Maritime law is its whole own thing and has fairly substantial differences to most law people more used to.

Total hit to the insurance company will likely be in the single digit billions.
I'm curious on how long that will take. Is the money paid out to the city? The state?
 

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I wouldn't be surprised to see the owners/operators of the Dali get sued into oblivion as well.

Sure, there was a pilot on board, but the ship suffered catastrophic failures (apparently), cause still unknown, that resulted in the impact.
Leave it to Maria Bartiromo of Fox Business Network pinning the Francis Scott Key Bridge tragedy to inflation & the open Southern border:
 

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