Ukraine vs Fallout Pre-War America

Imo they should ignore 7.62 that's what the Chinese used and they had to resort to building a rail gun.

The quote of 2,500 joules is not the cap but the bare minimum, the quote says OVER not UP TO.
7.62x39 isn't actually as good at penetrating armor as .223, assuming the 2500 joules refer to high class American penetrators (5mm AP), it should actually be mostly immune to Chinese weapons.

In any case the power armor T-51B is designed primarily for laser resistance, indicating China had a large arsenal of laser weapons as well.
 
7.62x39 isn't actually as good at penetrating armor as .223, assuming the 2500 joules refer to high class American penetrators (5mm AP), it should actually be mostly immune to Chinese weapons.

In any case the power armor T-51B is designed primarily for laser resistance, indicating China had a large arsenal of laser weapons as well.
T-51 against hordes of Liberators?
Liberator
 
T-51 against hordes of Liberators?
Liberator
To be truthful even with Bethesda-Fallout, we know so very little of China in regards to it's war capabilities. But it wouldn't be outrageous to say they had personal laser weapons if American civilians had them. I'd say Plasma weapons would be outside their grasp though, way more complicated.
They also probably had anti-materiel rifles, Communist states in general love them.
 
To be truthful even with Bethesda-Fallout, we know so very little of China in regards to it's war capabilities. But it wouldn't be outrageous to say they had personal laser weapons if American civilians had them. I'd say Plasma weapons would be outside their grasp though, way more complicated.
They also probably had anti-materiel rifles, Communist states in general love them.
Hmmm so far what we know about China

-Cloaking tech for Submarines and Infantry
-Logistical ability to invade and supply an invasion on Alaska with sufficient numbers to stall T-45 power armor.
-Limited Power Armor and Automatans
-Nukes
-Gauss Rifles
 
Hmmm so far what we know about China

-Cloaking tech for Submarines and Infantry
-Logistical ability to invade and supply an invasion on Alaska with sufficient numbers to stall T-45 power armor.
-Limited Power Armor and Automatans
-Nukes
-Gauss Rifles
China had power armor? Lemme guess, Bethesda retcon?
 
Not retcon, FNV said that Chinese were working on developing their own power armor. Fallout 76 confirms that they developed a few but it was just a minor amount before the bombs fell.
Developing doesn't really mean produced any issued versions.
If they ever did have any power armor, it'd be on the mainland Chinese areas only, and absolutely not seen by any American eyes.
 
Developing doesn't really mean produced any issued versions.
If they ever did have any power armor, it'd be on the mainland Chinese areas only, and absolutely not seen by any American eyes.
Developing doesn't mean producing yeah but it also means that them producing the armor isn't out of pocket or a retcon.

76 lore says they smuggled some into the main land for their espionage forces 🤷 it wasn't seen by American eyes and only a handful of Chinese officers in Appalachia got them.
 
Developing doesn't mean producing yeah but it also means that them producing the armor isn't out of pocket or a retcon.

76 lore says they smuggled some into the main land for their espionage forces 🤷 it wasn't seen by American eyes and only a handful of Chinese officers in Appalachia got them.
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Bethesda sure knows how to write...
 
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Bethesda sure knows how to write...
I mean they're literally working off of Obsidian lol

Chinese Infiltration was mentioned in New Vegas and so was the power armor. I honestly don't see anything breaking the lore


It's not like Obsidian said "There was NO Chinese Infiltrators and NO power armor"

🤷
 
I mean they're literally working off of Obsidian lol

Chinese Infiltration was mentioned in New Vegas and so was the power armor. I honestly don't see anything breaking the lore


It's not like Obsidian said "There was NO Chinese Infiltrators and NO power armor"

🤷
Which data entry in NV mentions Chinese power armor on American soil?
Chinese saboteurs? Sure, but why would they bring in experimental armor sets lmao.
 
Which data entry in NV mentions Chinese power armor on American soil?
Chinese saboteurs? Sure, but why would they bring in experimental armor sets lmao.
FNV mentions Chinese saboteurs and power armor being developed, kinda a 1+1 = 2 there.

The sets were completed not experimental, they directed a few sets to their Officers to help them with their missions.


It makes a fair amount of sense, a handful of suits weren't going to make a difference in the front line but would definitely help the infiltrators if they needed extra muscle for their missions. China just never got the chance to build them on the scale that America did, too little too late.
 
FNV mentions Chinese saboteurs and power armor being developed, kinda a 1+1 = 2 there.

The sets were completed not experimental, they directed a few sets to their Officers to help them with their missions.


It makes a fair amount of sense, a handful of suits weren't going to make a difference in the front line but would definitely help the infiltrators if they needed extra muscle for their missions. China just never got the chance to build them on the scale that America did, too little too late.
Going to need a link to the information you're suggesting please!
 
Well their fears were right because they did develop them...?
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It's not a mod
Its a game made past NV, hardly relevant for Fallout lore. Even FO4 is a huge stretch.
What, you believe in voodoo sharks in Jaws too? lmao.
 
Its a game made past NV, hardly relevant for Fallout lore. Even FO4 is a huge stretch.
What, you believe in voodoo sharks in Jaws too? lmao.
It's a game past NV working off a concept mentioned in in New Vegas.

Character in Fallout New Vegas) Oh they created this EMP weapon to counter power armor because they thought the Chinese were building power armor.

Fallout 76) Oh look they actually built the armor the Government was creating a weapon to counter with.
 
It's a game past NV working off a concept mentioned in in New Vegas.

Character in Fallout New Vegas) Oh they created this EMP weapon to counter power armor because they thought the Chinese were building power armor.

Fallout 76) Oh look they actually built the armor the Government was creating a weapon to counter with.
America builds all kinds of crazy stuff to counter fictional things in real life. F-15 was to counter the Mig-25, which they thought was a super air superiority fighter. Except it was a bomber interceptor.

They made 1 (one) prototype EMP gun just in case China had power armor, which to date has not been confirmed.
 
America builds all kinds of crazy stuff to counter fictional things in real life. F-15 was to counter the Mig-25, which they thought was a super air superiority fighter. Except it was a bomber interceptor.
And?
They made 1 (one) prototype EMP gun just in case China had power armor, which to date has not been confirmed.
That seems a liiiittle bit disingenuous considering Obsidian isn't likely to get the IP back and you're disregarding the current canon that confirms it.

Can't say it hasn't been confirmed when it literally is
:p

C'mon think narratively why would they mention the potential of China creating their own power armor If China couldn't?

The intent is pretty clear it's with in their ability even if you wanted to ignore the very canon Fallout 76 lore 😬
 

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