Hamas Launches Offensive Against Southern Israel
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Terthna
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You're talking about relocating over seven million people; even assuming you could get all or even most of them to agree to abandon their home, the monetary cost involved would be astronomical. You're looking at having to spend several trillion dollars at least; at a time when nobody has that kind of cash just laying around. We'd bankrupt ourselves in the attempt long before we actually managed to get them all out.
Counter revolution - christians like in Vandea,later in Spain or in 1920 Poland.
When soviets come near Warsaw,all polish males go to army,and womans go to church pray for victory.
Jews waited for coming soviets,even made Gates for them.
Lord Sovereign
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The United States must demand blood payment for this outrage.
I think the CVBG around the Ford probably has at least one SEAL team with them, and this is the sort of this SEALs are useful for.
Leftists, even Jewish, aren't one.
Greatest ally, probably not, ally, probably yes.
It's so basic no one except westerners follows it.
Are you familiar what happened in ex-German Europe *after* WW2?
Islamists are internationalists, they care about national borders as much as leftists do.
If they are busy with their spat with Jews, they are distracted from their claims in Europe, and they do have such.
Wrong Jews, it's not like Israeli nationalists love Soros and company, in fact they make laws to limit their NGOs like Eastern Europe does.
Well, I can agree with the first part of the quoted statement…
King Arts
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Yes it's commie logic to look at the facts on the ground, and what international laws and treaties were signed and try to make decisions based on that. After all commies are well known for using logic and consistency. Everyone knows that of course the true opposite of commie thoughts is "muh feels!" what my feelings say in a particular time is right and I can change and shift them however much I want. Truly I'm the commie leftist here and not you.
Define what a state is define what an ethnicity is you dumb motherfucker. You just saying there isn't means nothing. Bacle the asshole on the internet spouting his oppinion is not a source!
Bacle this is pure stupidity. So what the Jordanians just did a lottery and picked out random Jordanians and said "Yup these guys are Palestinians!" No Palestinians are distinct from other Arabs, other Arabs don't see them as Egyptian, or Jordanian or Syrian. They don't see them as countrymen. And Palestinians don't see themselves as Egyptian or whatever. They see themselves as Palestinian. You can say that Palestinians are a bad nationality or evil or whatever but they are a real ethnicity.
Again that makes them distinct from other Arabs. You are trying to be like a leftist and arguing both sides instead of being consistent! They are distinct from other Arabs they don't get along with other Arabs they are separate from other types of Arabs.
I see someone still believes the lefty lies about 'Palestine' that the commies and Arabs planted decades back.
King Arts
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And you just like a leftist make no actual logical arguments against what a ethnicity is and why Palestinians aren't one. You just spout your dumb oppinion, and act childish with the laugh emote. You should go back to your brothers on the left.
Nah, ripping in the the Tard-Right like you is plenty fun.
The Tard-Right really has out-ed themselves in their reactions to both the invasion of Ukraine and now these Hamas attacks.
Gotta find someone to make a good 'Commie-Left vs Tard-Right' meme.
King Arts
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Look in the mirror you stupid commie. I've said earlier that Israel is in the right on blowing up Hamas and crushing Palestinian resistance. But you are such a neocuck that to you anyone who think the Palestinians are an ethnicity and thinks it would be wrong to genocide them is pro Hamas and wants them to win. So to you the only correct option is to suck Israel's dick no matter what.
mrttao
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they are drinking the cool aid.
this is what generations of slaughtering "heretics" in your own population does to people. they are very detached from reality.
King Arts
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Pretty much. Once Israel takes off the gloves and kills lots of them hopefully they will get smarter and learn to live in peace for their sake.
I grew up in a town that is heavily Jewish influenced due to them founding TB hospitals here in the 1800s, and have friends who are Jews because they are my classmates and neighbors, and I've seen the bullshit hate they get from cunts on both ends of the political spectrum and detest it.
I'm absolutely done playing the dumb game that is 'Palestine is a nation/Palestinians are a state/ethnicity', instead of just another bunch of Arabs who got tossed from their home countries to be catspaws for the Arab's hate on Israel.
The sooner the lie of the 'Palestinian' state and ethnicity is removed, the faster actual peace can be achieved in the region. Send the foreign nationals and their kids back to their home nations, be that Jordan, Syria, Lebanon, Egypt, or anywhere else.
Even the Abraham Accords, the gold standard actually attempting a two-state solution that met as many concerns of both sides as possible, was negotiated with the Arab powers who were behind the creation of the 'Palestinian ethnicity' back in the 40s/50s and beyond. It was not negotiated with the 'Palestinians', because the lie of 'Palestinian statehood' exists at the whim of Rhiyad, , Ankara, Kuwait City, Cairo, Damascus, and Tehran.
King Arts
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Ok, so you are biased. You like Jews, thus you hate their enemies the Palestinians. That's fair, but that does not mean that Palestinians are not a nation.
Someone could live in a heavily Palestinian influenced town and have many Palestinian friends.
Or someone could have lived in a town influenced by neither and be completely neutral on the matter.
"Just another bunch of Arabs" is kinda of a way for you disregard their humanity and personhood isn't it? After all can't someone say that the English or Americans are Just another bunch of Germans. They have a Germanic language. Nations can come into being and well the Palestinians are apart from other nations even if they did not exist separately before they certainly do now.
The point is a nation can be created if a group of people identify with each other, and others don't identify with them. Palestinians see themselves as Palestinian, Egyptians don't see the Palestinians as Egyptian. They see them as foreginers just like they see the Jordanians or Syrians. Just because they have shared Arab roots doesen't mean anything really. Also you do realize that many Palestinians lived in the area of the Gaza strip, and West Bank before Israel became a nation in 1948. It's kinda false for you to say that "Oh they are foreigners from Saudi Arabia or Turkey, or Syria who moved into the area after Israel was destroyed."
It's not something Israel or neocons thought up, Arabs themselves agreed until tactically they "separated" Palestinians out for pragmatic reasons in the 70's. Here are some related quotes from Arab leaders:
Zuheir Mohse, high ranking PLO official, 1977:
Prince Hassan of the Jordanian National Assembly, 1970:
Auni Bey Abdul-Hadi, an Arab Muslim leader, to Peel Commission in 1937:
Syrian President Hafez Assad to Yasser Arafat:
King Arts
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All of these people are from diffrent nations though. Like Jordanians are not Syrians, and Syrians are not Jordanians. If Palestinians are not a thing and are part of another nation. One of those guys has to be wrong.
Also even if Palestine was "created" in the 70's does it matter? After all the Arab nations were created in the post colonial period. It's not like Jordan existed for hundreds of years and then Palestine came up. And again there is my question did the Jordanians just do some sort of young adult dystopian hunger games bullshit. "Ok here is the lottery if you are called up you are not Jordanian but Palestinan got it?"
I mean it makes sense that the Palestinians especially because of their history now see themselves as seperate from Jordan, or Syria, or Egypt. If Israel never existed then the land would have been fought for by Syria, and Jordan, and Lebanon so a Palestinian identity might never have emerged true, and maybe those Arab nations would want to eat and consume Palestine. But the way history happened Palestine did end up creating an identity for itself.
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So who do you think the PLO guy was, the one explaining the politics of it?
My point exactly. Arabs are an ethnicity, but as one of the quotes explain, there is no major difference between Jordanians, Syrians, Palestinians, and even some other populations, only administrative borders with different leadership. Kinda like China and Taiwan are both ruled by Chinese, and Koreas are both Korean states, but differ by political system.
Did it? Then why don't they care about telling Arabs from the abovementioned countries to not interfere in their business?
The PLO guy explained it very clearly why even if Palestinian identity doesn't exist, and they don't need one, they need to propose one for political benefits.