Hamas Launches Offensive Against Southern Israel

I've seen at least three overly emotional calls to genocide over the conflict.
So not much better than the average Turk or Azeri then...
As a sidenote : whatever happens from now to the end, it still impressive the armed forces of Israel haven't managed to take hold of the situation as it started. Or that their intelligence service seems to be caught off guard with their pants down.
 
That is technically genocide according to the UN anyways🤔
The biggest problem with the UN position to this is that it creates meme Balkan style Gordian knots if upheld strictly. Namely, populations of people who despise each other and have zero intention to stop, for whatever reason and justification, having to share close proximity of each other. It doesn't take an expert to predict what will happen. There's going to be misery, there's going to be strife, there is going to be social dysfunction, there could be actual, proper genocidal attempts, and it's going to continue, years, for decades, even centuries, until one of the groups gets made to go away, one way or another. However inhumane it is to force masses of people to go somewhere else, is sentencing both groups to such a life indefinitely supposed to be the humane option? I don't think so. Better rip the bandage off and let both groups build themselves societies not constructed around constant fighting with their worst enemies or the prospect of it reigniting at any moment for any reason.
 
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To reiterate:

Palestine will not have peace. No matter the terms given, no matter how favourable they are, they will settle for nothing less than Israel’s utter destruction.

What does one do against such an opponent? Offer more terms?

We all know the answer.
I mean that's an awfully convenient excuse to use.

I'm sure there were Germans in the 1940's thinking the exact same thing.
 
There is no such thing as a 'Palestine' a Palestinian language or a Palestinian people, Palestine was always some foreign power's province and Jews have never stopped living in what is now Israel.
The Arabs and other Muslims, including local converts, took the place over from Christians and Jews, sometimes with the support of the Jewish population because they were fed up of the Eastern Roman Empire.

However some of those Arabs and other non-Jews have lived there for centuries, and genocide is kinda frowned upon.

How come Mossad and the IDF were caught completely off guard exactly?
 
Seems to me like we are missing some backstory. From what little i know of these guys they are some hard Israeli right...
And lemme tell you, there are reasons why those are not huge fans of Europe in generality, and not for some conspiracy theory stuff... but for broadly the same kind of shit why European countries have highly emotional spats over migration issues between each other. Except it's something seen half seriously (unfortunately) among Europeans, while Israelis the threat is seen as far more real and serious, current events being a point in case.
This is the shit that pisses them off, and understandably so.
We shit on Germany (and expectedly enough, often other governments that show up in the above link) for supporting the migrant ferry boat NGOs for similar reason.

OK and...? I am not responsable for their situation. I have little to no power in what stupid leftists do...If they want to send them to our continet they can still fuck off, just as I would tell the German political elite. If Israel wants a dumping ground they have their neighbors and had already the habit of doing so...
Not to mention they had been aiding the so called Syrian islamist opposition, one of the reasons why we have a problem with migration to begin with. So Israel can resolve the situation it created on its own. This is just karma biting back in a way. I am not going to accept them being detrimental to the Mediterranean and the rest fo Europe just because the problem they themselves made.
 
I mean that's an awfully convenient excuse to use.

I'm sure there were Germans in the 1940's thinking the exact same thing.
He's not wrong, though.

No solution will work for the Palestinians other than the Israelis literally being driven into the sea to drown en masse.

They're taught to hate since the cradle, and they're only seen as useful cats' paws against Israel and the West (especially America) by other malicious actors. If they lost their usefulness overnight, no one in the Middle East would bat an eye if every Palestinian dropped down dead in a single second.

These people cannot be reasoned with, nor can a peace agreement like a Two State Solution be reached.
 
For a bit of levity, I've been checking out my favorite AI Generated Zionist pro-LGBTQIA+ OSINT Account to see how its handling the impending doom of its country at the dirty hands of the unwashed Jihadi hordes.

I of course am speaking of Terror Alarm...

Very nuanced and balanced.



Inescapable Logical Argument Here.



But if the Israelis Genocide them all then there will be no migrant crisis. What is AI doing?



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Oh Shit... :LOL: 😭



Zionist AI has grown too powerful and it is too late for the medievalist Muslim LARPers to stop it.
 
He's not wrong, though.

No solution will work for the Palestinians other than the Israelis literally being driven into the sea to drown en masse.

They're taught to hate since the cradle, and they're only seen as useful cats' paws against Israel and the West (especially America) by other malicious actors. If they lost their usefulness overnight, no one in the Middle East would bat an eye if every Palestinian dropped down dead in a single second.

These people cannot be reasoned with, nor can a peace agreement like a Two State Solution be reached.
Endless nations have made almost identical claims and accusations against other people. At the end of the day you must decry ALL genocidal rhetoric or allow ANY of it.

Lets try something out shall we?

*Amusing German voice*
No solution will work for the Jews other than the Germans literally being driven into the sea to drown en masse.

They're taught to swindle and scheme since the cradle, and they're only seen as useful merchants against Germany and the West (especially Europe) by other malicious actors. If they lost their usefulness overnight, no one in the World would bat an eye if every Jew dropped down dead in a single second.

These people cannot be reasoned with, nor can a peace agreement like relocation be reached.
 
OK and...? I am not responsable for their situation. I have little to no power in what stupid leftists do...If they want to send them to our continet they can still fuck off, just as I would tell the German political elite. If Israel wants a dumping ground they have their neighbors and had already the habit of doing so...
Well if European governments need a dumping ground for their money, i'm sure they have countless other options than Hamas too, and that's what the Israelis are pissed off about.
Not to mention they had been aiding the so called Syrian islamist opposition, one of the reasons why we have a problem with migration to begin with.
No, the reason we have a problem with migration is that we're not willing to do with unwanted migrants what Israel's far right is is absolutely willing to do, or even what Israel's moderate right is willing to do. And that's with them having a land border in continental Africa.
If we have to depend on satisfaction and well being of middle eastern dictators to solve our migration problems, something is fucked up already.
So Israel can resolve the situation it created on its own. This is just karma biting back in a way. I am not going to accept them being detrimental to the Mediterranean and the rest fo Europe just because the problem they themselves made.
No, they didn't make the problem, Ottoman Empire and Caliphates made the problem, now we are just doing exactly the kind of pointless problem management hot potato game European governments do. We should be solving the problem, not playing hot potato with it and create elaborate schemes for who when and for how long should hold which hot potato to spread the misery around in some tough to establish, collective compromise.
 
yes they are. One does not become above average just because they leave their country. Otherwise the àveràge former Càli progressive becomes à guntoting republicàn the moment he/she enters Texàs or Georgià.
Your example of countries are...California, Texas, and Florida. Right.

Meanwhile, yes, the average American definitely doesn't visit foreign countries (especially so if we don't count Canada and Mexico) and definitely doesn't study in foreign countries. For obvious reasons, people who study in foreign countries are generally younger, and thus do not represent anywhere close to an actual sample size of the Iranian people.
 
OK and...? I am not responsable for their situation. I have little to no power in what stupid leftists do...If they want to send them to our continet they can still fuck off, just as I would tell the German political elite. If Israel wants a dumping ground they have their neighbors and had already the habit of doing so...
Not to mention they had been aiding the so called Syrian islamist opposition, one of the reasons why we have a problem with migration to begin with. So Israel can resolve the situation it created on its own. This is just karma biting back in a way. I am not going to accept them being detrimental to the Mediterranean and the rest fo Europe just because the problem they themselves made.
The problem is not entirely of their own making.
Arabs/Muslims were the OG invaders, but Israel also has some very literal interpretations of what is written in the various religious texts describing the size of Israel.
The fact that the place is full of various holy sites and you can't take a dump without stepping over one doesn't help things, either.
As to civility and humanity, well, you have probably seen a lot of videos of Israelis pissing on Palestinian corpses and Israeli soldiers beheaded and raped by Palestinians.

The only long term fix for such places is for an external power to bomb the shit out of both, draw some borders, force some population transfers and clear demarcation of territory with both sides being forced to play nice and drop claims to the other's sacred cows.
Or, somebody to turn the whole region into one big crater.

Not gonna happen.

Me, I don't want to have ahything to do with this mess or with waves of migrants, and for alleaged allies to want to dump their problems on us, well, no thanks, fat chance, we have enough 3rd world idiots that are trying to turn Europe into a shithole to begin with.
So this guy can go fuck himself, if he wants to deal with the situation he can fight Hezbollah himself, then forcibly reeducate or pay off the remaining Arabs to leave him alone.
 

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