Worm WORM/Parahumans: Explaining, Discussing, Complaining. Lets do one or another!

Honestly, I rather enjoy well-written Worm fics, because the universe is ripe for good fanfiction. On the other hand, the majority of Worm fiction is crap. That being said, the majority of MOST fanfiction is crap.

But there are plenty of gems among the crap in all fandoms, and once you learn basic pattern recognition you can generally pick out the gems without getting too invested in the story itself. For one thing, if the author spends the first chapter pontificating on their sexual orientation, it's probably a crappy story LOL.

Worm has such potential for fanfiction. Especially if you push the Scion endpoint back by a few more decades. The problem is the overabundance of authors who turn it into a poorly done romance vehicle, insist on making all of the people they dislike raging incompetents, and insist on constantly repeating the same mistake Worm made - a massively accelerated timeline (seriously, everything from the Lung Fight to Taylor joining the Wards takes place over less than a year).
 
Worm has such potential for fanfiction. Especially if you push the Scion endpoint back by a few more decades.
I think that The procrastinating fat swine riverboat captain wannabe, aka G.R.R.M, did something like what you are describing, darker and edgier novel series where random people get superpowers, with whatever triggered it, I think literally some meddling aliens, happening at some point in the early 20th century IIRC,the series was called Wildcards I think, and he was more of an editor than an actual contributor.
 
The problem is the overabundance of authors who turn it into a poorly done romance vehicle, insist on making all of the people they dislike raging incompetents, and insist on constantly repeating the same mistake Worm made - a massively accelerated timeline (seriously, everything from the Lung Fight to Taylor joining the Wards takes place over less than a year).

And the millions of cookie-cutter fanfics which are literally just "Taylor gets a different power".
 
And the millions of cookie-cutter fanfics which are literally just "Taylor gets a different power".
If there is one that is more useless than controlling bugs then that would be quite entertaining I suppose.

A crossover between that thing and SST/SC/Ender's Game/Deep Rock Galactic/War with the Chtorr/Armor might actually create a situation where bug control might be quite useful.
 
Worm has such potential for fanfiction. Especially if you push the Scion endpoint back by a few more decades. The problem is the overabundance of authors who turn it into a poorly done romance vehicle, insist on making all of the people they dislike raging incompetents, and insist on constantly repeating the same mistake Worm made - a massively accelerated timeline (seriously, everything from the Lung Fight to Taylor joining the Wards takes place over less than a year).
Yeah, the romance thing often gets shoved down everyone's throats to the point its unworkable in fanfiction. My main issue with the setting beyond that is a complete lack of any interesting gangs/factions you would think in a world where superpowers emerge in the 70's-80's that it would suddenly put some power into various fringe groups on both the left and right giving rise to even some new extreme ideologies.

Instead we literally get a gang of Neonazis, a hodgepodge of Asian gang's formed by Lung, a gang of drug addicts and finally the undersides operating under Petryr Baelishs hero as proxy.

Literally while the characters themselves are interesting their ideology and factions are lifeless caricatures and no depth is ever really given to them.
 
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🤢🤮 The internet has too much Worm content already, don't need any more of it.
Have you actually read Worm?

The fanfiction isn't very accurate to the original. Almost all of them are some variation of fix fic.

Also, reading the original won't increase the amount of Worm content on the internet.

If you're so hard set against Worm, though, and you want free entertainment, the first chapter of the VN Higurashi is free on Steam.

Or you can get into manga.

If you want romance manga, I recommend Umi no Misaki. Light novels, The Empty Box and the Zeroeth Maria.

Tokyo Ghoul is genuinely pretty great. The manga at least.

You want classic anime? Serial Experiments Lain. No one cares if you pirate the classics.

There's a ton of free entertainment on the internet.
 
Have you actually read Worm?

The fanfiction isn't very accurate to the original. Almost all of them are some variation of fix fic.

Also, reading the original won't increase the amount of Worm content on the internet.

If you're so hard set against Worm, though, and you want free entertainment, the first chapter of the VN Higurashi is free on Steam.

Or you can get into manga.

If you want romance manga, I recommend Umi no Misaki. Light novels, The Empty Box and the Zeroeth Maria.

Tokyo Ghoul is genuinely pretty great. The manga at least.

You want classic anime? Serial Experiments Lain. No one cares if you pirate the classics.

There's a ton of free entertainment on the internet.
The trouble with Worm is that although it has a great concept, great ideas, and even great characters, Wildbow's execution of those ideas is a little half-baked/crude, especially as it gets into the later arcs.

He may have improved over the course of his writing career (I haven't read any of his other works yet), and don't get me wrong I've nothing against the guy, but Worm took off not because of his execution/writing but because of the concept people could use themselves (especially with crossovers); it's why many fics are so vastly different from the source material, even when they're just alternate power roulette fics.
 
The trouble with Worm is that although it has a great concept, great ideas, and even great characters, Wildbow's execution of those ideas is a little half-baked/crude, especially as it gets into the later arcs.

He may have improved over the course of his writing career (I haven't read any of his other works yet), and don't get me wrong I've nothing against the guy, but Worm took off not because of his execution/writing but because of the concept people could use themselves (especially with crossovers); it's why many fics are so vastly different from the source material, even when they're just alternate power roulette fics.
Eh I'm very skeptical of this.

Worm took off because it has great world building, and a strong cast of characters that could easily produce many different interesting interactions, and are simultaneous not super hard to write.

Worm could definitely use some editing - but serialized stories tend to run a bit long, and Worm is beyond incredible for a new authors bi-weekly web serial.

IMHO, Worm is hands down better than anything, say, Brandon Sanderson has written, especially in terms of powers & worldbuilding. And that's nominally Sanderson's whole thing.

That was a pretty good one actually.
Aye a fellow Umi no Misaki enjoyer.

And that's a critical failure of a writer: if your work isn't engaging or doesn't hook people from the first few pages, your book could be the most amazing thing ever written in just a few chapters... but nobody will ever read it.
Except... its the exact opposite issue?

Most people tend to agree that Worm's earlier parts are the stronger parts, with the story peaking at the Leviathan and Slaughterhouse Nine Arcs.

Its not like Worm doesn't have a pretty strong plot hook. In the first Arc, 25K words, we meet a relatable protagonist with a chip on their shoulder, have a major fight scene, and are introduced to a fairly original superhero setting.

All the most entertaining fics I can think of have followed that formulae. People give SkySaber/PerfectLionheart a lot of shit, but his stuff often follows a pretty pattern that is successful in stories that those same detractors tend to love.

Perfect Lionheart is a nutcase, but Partially Kissed Hero is fucking amazing to read. Not in the way he intended perhaps, but its still hilarious.

Nobody has read Worm.

I wrote Worm fics, and even I hadn't read Worm :V

Anyone who can't read a 1.7 million word story in two weeks is a pussy.

Yes, I wear glasses. How did you guess?
 
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Eh I'm very skeptical of this.

Worm took off because it has great world building, and a strong cast of characters that could easily produce many different interesting interactions, and are simultaneous not super hard to write.


Aye a fellow Umi no Misaki enjoyer.


Except... its the exact opposite issue?

Most people tend to agree that Worm's earlier parts are the stronger parts, with the story peaking at the Leviathan and Slaughterhouse Nine Arcs.



Perfect Lionheart is a nutcase, but Partially Kissed Hero is fucking amazing to read. Not in the way he intended perhaps, but its still hilarious.



Anyone who can't read a 1.7 million word story in two weeks is a pussy.

Yes, I wear glasses. How did you guess?
As I said, it was the concept of those characters and early setting that people liked. Wildbow's actual execution of them was hit and miss, and often miss; it's why many power roulette fics have vastly different characterizations of those characters, in the early period of the story which was the most interesting part of it.

Yeah, I'm dumb -- I misread his post. :ROFLMAO: Wildbow had the opposite problem in that the beginning started out strong but it began to flag as the story went on (especially when the story went past the whole "local superhero" thing).
 
As I said, it was the concept of those characters and early setting that people liked. Wildbow's actual execution of them was hit and miss, and often miss; it's why many power roulette fics have vastly different characterizations of those characters, in the early period of the story which was the most interesting part of it.

Yeah, I'm dumb -- I misread his post. :ROFLMAO: Wildbow had the opposite problem in that the beginning started out strong but it began to flag as the story went on (especially when the story went past the whole "local superhero" thing).

Did you know that Worm was originally supposed to begin wrapping up after the end of the Echidna incident?

Can't help but wonder if the series ending would have had better pacing had that been the case.
 
What I want to know is, why is Worm the thing that so many people are obsessed over that it needed its own Creative Writing subforum? It's nothing special; and outside of Spacebattles and Spacebattles adjacent communities, relatively obscure.
From my understanding, the world building is great and the characters are interesting it's just the story is shit. It's just half the time the characters in these fanfics are INOs.
 
What I want to know is, why is Worm the thing that so many people are obsessed over that it needed its own Creative Writing subforum? It's nothing special; and outside of Spacebattles and Spacebattles adjacent communities, relatively obscure.
Honestly it's the same reason many fanfic authors are shit. It let's you write a story that let's you take powers or people from other settings and put them in some other place and play around with it. It's also why Familliar of Zero had a lot of stories just have Louise summon something other than Saito. Also why on QQ stupid company stories are so common. I like crossovers but when you have fucking game mechanics from some other place to make you broken it's just too much. Come up with some original concepts, same also applies to ROBS.

From my understanding, the world building is great and the characters are interesting it's just the story is shit. It's just half the time the characters in these fanfics are INOs.
INOs?
 

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