Disney Plus...

For a long time ever since things like CBS All Access came out for TV series like Star Trek: Discovery and the new Twilight Zone, and of course the long awaited arrival of Disney Plus... I've been fearing the day where streaming would become just as crappy as Cable TV of which I cut the cord on ages ago where you'd have a multitude of choices your paying for but only watching 1% of it and was loath to have big ol disgusting Disney which owns half of everything creative in the world in its stream bank.

I was going to pirate the Mandalorian and feel GOOD about it dammit.

But it's only seven dollars a month... or seventy dollars a year.

And for thirteen dollars a month I can get Hulu and ESPN Plus... not that I use those two services much (I already pay for Netflix and a relative pays for Amazon Prime) but that would fill the gap in my consumerist heart. But I had principles dammit... very vague... and very outraged principles. Can I really be bought out for just seven bucks a month?

Damn these mega giant corporations for offering competitive pricing on the high quality shit content I crave! I thought this was America!!!

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I'll probably get it when the Mandalorian is fully released. I was planning on getting it for a month just to binge on it for the whole family but... seven dollars a month... seventy a year!!!

I don't even know if I'm being satirical or not anymore. This is a serious soul searching post!

Damn you Corporate dominated Capitalism!

DAMN YOUUUUUUUUUUU!


Four streams at once... seven individual accounts? My whole family can use this brainwashing device and become further enmeshed into digital dullardry for like a dollar per family member!

Sums up the streaming shit pretty well.

Don’t worry, everyone’s Disney+ User Data has already been stolen...

Captain-General said:

Don’t worry, everyone’s Disney+ User Data has already been stolen...

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Allahdammit… Blessings and Peace be upon him... I missed my main opportunity.

FriedCFour said:

Sums up the streaming shit pretty well.

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Yeah that was basically me like a week ago... But I mean... seven dollars a month! And they'll lose my identity for me! And I'll get Hasbro PLUS!

I heard digitals will eventually have expiration dates. The value of physicals will grow higher.

Random Username said:

I heard digitals will eventually have expiration dates. The value of physicals will grow higher.

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I've been noticing more and more people buying physical media as of late. Personally, I never really got the appeal of streaming or digital purchases; I like actually owning the things I pay money for.

Terthna said:

I've been noticing more and more people buying physical media as of late. Personally, I never really got the appeal of streaming or digital purchases; I like actually owning the things I pay money for.

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I prefer physicals too but I don't have much space now.

Wouldn't surprise me if digitals eventually have expiration dates to be like a subscription to get more money and Disney is spending a lot. They need ways to get that money back besides increasing theme park prices.

Terthna said:

I've been noticing more and more people buying physical media as of late. Personally, I never really got the appeal of streaming or digital purchases; I like actually owning the things I pay money for.

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This is one I've always felt as well. Physical media is securely mine and securely unchangeable in a way streaming stuff isn't--and I mean the latter both in terms of the costs or conditions associated with streaming something (Netflix started out cheaper--and with better selection--than it is today) as well as the way it's opened up to being altered as a publisher sees fit (Disney+ I understand has had this happen in regards to a Simpsons episode starring Michael Jackson, and it's at least been bandied about and talked about in regards to the older Disney titles like Song of the South and the like--though I dunnow how Disney+ treats those). Streaming anything is useful for the stuff that might normally merit a rental or 'look-see' to see if you're interested. Physical copies are for anything one actually cares about.
But maybe that's my inner old-person speaking.

Piggy-backed off a girlfriend to watch the first episode of the Mandalorian, and it looks good--and that seems to be the general bit I've heard over it. That said...I too have something of a wavy, indefinable objection to giving the Mouse more of my money, partially based off objection to how they did my SW dirty, partially because of the simple standard of how much media they own and the only real objection a consumer has to that is not fueling the beast, and partially because I, very frankly, disapprove of how much cover and concern they've shown to Chinese businesses and filming, and then the remainder because this grab-bag of different companies releasing their own individual streaming site makes my tech-deficient mind confused and aggravated because I remember when a whole heaping bunch of this shit was on ONE of the damn things and I got spoiled so dag-nabbit them whippersnappers are ruining it!

Unfortunately, being a tech-backwards throwback...My capacity to raise the black flag and sail the scurvy seas is also not very developed. So...Catch-22. I'll play wait-and-see. Maybe see how some test-runs go with my friend a few more times to see if I'm interested ( ;p ), and maybe wait until they get better network security. Yeesh.

Husky_Khan said:

For a long time ever since things like CBS All Access came out for TV series like Star Trek: Discovery and the new Twilight Zone, and of course the long awaited arrival of Disney Plus... I've been fearing the day where streaming would become just as crappy as Cable TV of which I cut the cord on ages ago where you'd have a multitude of choices your paying for but only watching 1% of it and was loath to have big ol disgusting Disney which owns half of everything creative in the world in its stream bank.

I was going to pirate the Mandalorian and feel GOOD about it dammit.

But it's only seven dollars a month... or seventy dollars a year.

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Eh. My plan is to just wait until the Mandalorian comes out on Blu-Ray. My previous plan was just to buy a month of subscription and cancel as soon as possible, but then a sh*t-ton of user data was leaked and I decided that the subscription could wait until Disney gets better cybersecurity.

But physical media is the best. It can't be taken from you, it can't be altered without your permission, and your DVD shelf isn't going to split off and force you to go to another shelf to get the content you already paid for.

The only reason I have a Roku account is because I'm not paying for it, and it's sometimes nice to browse. It's a replacement for Blockbuster, good for watching movies and television shows to see if I want to buy the whole thing.

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I heard digitals will eventually have expiration dates. The value of physicals will grow higher.

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Maybe. As the need to monetize content develops, you'll see more streaming services set up as short term rentals. Amazon's streaming service does this, where you have the choice of renting a movie or paying more to buy it.

prinCZess said:

Unfortunately, being a tech-backwards throwback...My capacity to raise the black flag and sail the scurvy seas is also not very developed.

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I know. I've read the story. =P

I mostly don't have a problem with D+ because I honestly don't care about most tv. The Mandalorian is the first show I've actually wanted to keep up with in the last decade, makes the problem pretty much moot.

As far as I'm concerned I'm paying $7 for four episodes that Disney's dropping millions on per episode and getting a bunch of bonus programming too. Sounds like a fair deal from where I'm sitting.

EDIT: I'm also not (currently) worried about my user info because though I wasn't aware before, when I looked it up now most of the stolen accounts appear to be from credential stuffing. People got their data stolen somewhere else and then proceeded to sign up with the same username/password combo that had already been leaked.


Disney doesn't do enough to alert users that somebody's got their info, but at least nobody's raided their servers yet.

I just hope there won't be any new streaming services because I fear everything will go too dispersed leading to a gigantic streaming service crash as the number exceeds peoplw's willingness to pay for more streaming services.

If they videogame market is anything to go by, the crash could be followed by the market rebounding without the worst of what caused the problem in the first place. A crash may well result in streamlining, eventually.

I got a years worth of Disney Plus because I am a Verizon customer. Though I don't like current Disney programming. I do like Classic Disney Programming. And I like the Non Prequel Star War that George Lucas created. And this fulfills my motto.

Free is Free.

I was actually tentatively interested in Disney+, but then discovered they aren't bothering to support most smart TVs, so I would have to actually buy another device to actually enjoy content on the big screen. And I just don't care enough to buy and connect another device to the TV. Running cables is annoying.

Sailor.X said:

I got a years worth of Disney Plus because I am a Verizon customer. Though I don't like current Disney programming. I do like Classic Disney Programming. And I like the Non Prequel Star War that George Lucas created. And this fulfills my motto.

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If I were in your shoes, I'd call Verizon to try to get rid of it because I'm boycotting Disney.

Huh, that would be an interesting way to make a legal argument to get rid of unwanted package deals, by claiming they violate the first amendment by preventing people from boycotting. Private company means jack shit, conspiracy against rights is a thing.

Doomsought said:

If I were in your shoes, I'd call Verizon to try to get rid of it because I'm boycotting Disney.

Huh, that would be an interesting way to make a legal argument to get rid of unwanted package deals, by claiming they violate the first amendment by preventing people from boycotting. Private company means jack shit, conspiracy against rights is a thing.

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Nope.

1) There is virtually no cause of action against a private party for infringing on your freedom of speech.

2) Even if there was, they are entirely within their rights to say "that is included in the product that we sell, you can either accept it or are free to not buy our product".

Husky_Khan said:

For a long time ever since things like CBS All Access came out for TV series like Star Trek: Discovery and the new Twilight Zone, and of course the long awaited arrival of Disney Plus... I've been fearing the day where streaming would become just as crappy as Cable TV of which I cut the cord on ages ago where you'd have a multitude of choices your paying for but only watching 1% of it and was loath to have big ol disgusting Disney which owns half of everything creative in the world in its stream bank.

I was going to pirate the Mandalorian and feel GOOD about it dammit.

But it's only seven dollars a month... or seventy dollars a year.

And for thirteen dollars a month I can get Hulu and ESPN Plus... not that I use those two services much (I already pay for Netflix and a relative pays for Amazon Prime) but that would fill the gap in my consumerist heart. But I had principles dammit... very vague... and very outraged principles. Can I really be bought out for just seven bucks a month?

Damn these mega giant corporations for offering competitive pricing on the high quality shit content I crave! I thought this was America!!!

😭

I'll probably get it when the Mandalorian is fully released. I was planning on getting it for a month just to binge on it for the whole family but... seven dollars a month... seventy a year!!!

I don't even know if I'm being satirical or not anymore. This is a serious soul searching post!

Damn you Corporate dominated Capitalism!

DAMN YOUUUUUUUUUUU!

How Many Streams Does Disney Plus Support at Once?

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Four streams at once... seven individual accounts? My whole family can use this brainwashing device and become further enmeshed into digital dullardry for like a dollar per family member!

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Cheap up front, sure, but it's like renting vs buying. Once the period of rental ends, the money has been spent but no asset remains. Over five or ten years that rent adds up. A decade of netflix is over a thousand dollars! I can buy a whole lot of media with a thousand dollars, and I can keep it as long as I want, and convert it to a digital format for convenience or safekeeping if I so desire.

Physical ownership of media also allows for efficiencies that streaming services do not. If I and my four best friends choose to buy media rather than renting, and have some measure of coordination in what we choose to buy, we end up with up to five times the total media owned and available to us all. Streaming accounts can sometimes be shared, but even that does not increase the amount of access to media acquired per dollar spent -- it only spreads around what the service offers.

That's a good way of looking at it comparatively. I'm actually pretty straightforward in my own entertainment purchases I suppose though your math and reasoning is pretty simple. I'm not sure where I get the figure from but for a lot of entertainment I usually just try to lay out a one dollar per hour of entertainment ratio when buying games or movies or even streaming services for the most part I suppose and that's how I justify the purchase generally speaking... internally I suppose.

Not that it's a strict rule or I go crazy on it but if it's something I'm practically capable of purchasing and already interested it, usually that snap analysis is one factor that colors my judgment when making a decision to buy something.

But your point on permanencies is well taken.

So I have Disney+. Overall it has a great selection of Disney shows and almost everything they have made. The nice thing about Dinsey is their library is huge so a just Disney streaming service can work unlike CBS which has a much more limited selection. I mainly got for babysitting duties and because it was cheap. So overall 70 dollars is a good amount for the selection.

So far the only real complaint I have is that the search engine is not the best. It works great if you know what you want to watch. But random browsing has issues like not all Star Wars media being under Star Wars.

Terthna said:

I've been noticing more and more people buying physical media as of late. Personally, I never really got the appeal of streaming or digital purchases; I like actually owning the things I pay money for.

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I have always bought physical copies of media I want to keep. I have had bad experiences with moving and losing movies I paid for because I no longer had Time Warner.

Also books will last longer then I will be alive and nothing beats reading a real book on rainy/snowy* day.

It makes loaning out a copy easy. I can give some one my copy of the Game of Thrones but it is a pain to share them on a Kindle and other E-readers.




*Stupid no good blizzard making Thanksgiving travel hard

prinCZess said:

like--though I dunnow how Disney+ treats those).

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Disney+ puts a short disclaimer in front of older works that people find objectionable. It basically amounts to Disney saying these are works of their time and we felt it is important to not change them but acknowledge that some past works have bad stereotypes in them that are not acceptable today.

Husky_Khan said:

That's a good way of looking at it comparatively. I'm actually pretty straightforward in my own entertainment purchases I suppose though your math and reasoning is pretty simple. I'm not sure where I get the figure from but for a lot of entertainment I usually just try to lay out a one dollar per hour of entertainment ratio when buying games or movies or even streaming services for the most part I suppose and that's how I justify the purchase generally speaking... internally I suppose.

Not that it's a strict rule or I go crazy on it but if it's something I'm practically capable of purchasing and already interested it, usually that snap analysis is one factor that colors my judgment when making a decision to buy something.

But your point on permanencies is well taken.

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The problem comes from people thinking that streaming services like Netflix where just like their personal libraries of VHS tapes and DvDs. Instead they are finding out that Netflix is just a different version of cable. You have to accept that you are just renting things which is fine for a lot of media. I don't have the money to buy everything I want to watch. So I rent it though Cable and Disney+ while buying movies and shows that I will rewatch enough to justify owning.

Husky_Khan said:

I've been fearing the day where streaming would become just as crappy as Cable TV of which I cut the cord on ages ago where you'd have a multitude of choices your paying for but only watching 1% of it and was loath to have big ol disgusting Disney which owns half of everything creative in the world in its stream bank.

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That was always going to happen. Netflix when it was just DVDs though the mail only competed against video stores. But streaming services are basically just version of cable companies though the internet.

I know it is cool to hate on cable and it does have its problems like price and service issues. But the amount of entertainment though On Demand and live viewing is amazing. You get more hours of shows then you can watch from news to cooking to dramas and many more. Netflix use to have that in hit shows but has slowly been losing ground as previous owner take back properties.

Basically Netflix started out like AMC in showing only syndication. But now they make their own shows along with showing some older shows.

The big problem is that Netflix is no longer a game changer. It has direct competitors like Hulu and and shown that their is a large market for older shows. So just like we saw the expansion of DisneyXD type channels knockoffs of Netflix where coming.

So the original right holders where always going to try and get a piece of the pie without the middle man. Some like Disney have the scope to pull it off. Wlhile CBS has a struggling one but may make it work. Others like CW Seed just uses it as an extension of its network.

So the days of being able to cut the cord and get all the movies and T.V. shows a season late for 15 dollars a month is dead or dying.

So anyone else get Disney+ yet? I got it, probably keep it for a month before canceling. It seemed cool at first but honestly the selection was rather... underwhelming. I dunno, I just expected more. It had all of the ol' Disney animated movies and Pixar, MCU and Star Wars stuff as well as old cartoons and Disney channel nonsense, but I guess I didn't realize that Disney+ would just be PG-13 and that they'd keep a lot of their Fox stuff on Hulu or off of this platform or whatever.

So yeah... I don't have Hulu either. But regardless, it's probably for the best. Already saw the Mandalorian and I can go through Rebels and some other series I never bothered watching if and when I get the time and then cancel it out. Which is nice... saves me money from THE MOUSE!