As an ethicist, you certainly can admit that there exists a wide variety of often contradictory ethical systems. Can we agree on that one?I didn't say it was. In fact, I specifically said it wasn't. I said that you have to disregard ethics to succeed in geo-politics. Which is why I recommend not getting entangled in geo-politics.
But as I wrote: you rely entirely on mangling what others said. You're not even debating against anything I said... you're debating some imaginary argument that you cooked up yourself. Which is, regrettably, what you always seem to do. I still don't know if it's a deliberate tactic, or if you're just incapable of grasping what others actually mean.
If so, can you specify *which* ethical systems do you have to disregard to succeed in geo-politics, or are you making the risky move of making this a blanket statement?
Damn, good thing i didn't study ethics, apparently in ethics <= means the same as =.You said "Non-interventionism is not any more of a moral position than pacifism."
Since we are talking about ethics, that's the field upon which we compare. And "not any more of a moral position" is an equation; you're morally equating them here. Your own words.
Please stop lying.
As you can even admit, i wasn't saying they are the same thing, i was just stating their value in my opinion is rather low and for similar reasons and to unspecific degree.
Yeah, considering what i'm seeing from one here, i'll have to agree these people.Again, you mangle the argument with somehing imaginary. Where have I said that people listen to ethicists? My entire point was that they don't, by and large (but that they'd probably be better off if they did it a bit more).