Armchair General's DonbAss Derailed Discussion Thread (Topics Include History, Traps, and the Ongoing Slavic Civil War plus much much more)

Arch Dornan

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Marduk said:
Hypothetical? By neighbors? Like Germany? Oh well, in that case they are completely screwed as that's a pretty damn big neighbors. And a big of cold war era stuff changes nothing.
Unless Belgium goes berserk for some reason :D
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They're screwed then.
Marduk said:
It's Netherlands we are talking about, not China.
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A Netherlands where farmers are protesting at this very moment while the politicians don't give a shit with a controlled media that ignores it or a media that sensationalises it if the wrong approach is applied to cause shit to be real.
 
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Arch Dornan said:
They're screwed then.
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In the B movie fiction where Germany invades them again, sure.
Arch Dornan said:
A Netherlands where farmers are protesting at this very moment while the politicians don't give a shit with a controlled media that ignores it or a media that sensationalises it if the wrong approach is applied to cause shit to be real.
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My point exactly, they are protesting, and there are no armored vehicles on the street.
Meanwhile in China:
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Video: China Deploys Tanks After Top Bank Declares People’s Money ‘Investment Products’

The tanks were rolled on the streets to scare Henan bank protestors amid large-scale protests in the province by bank depositors over the release of frozen funds.
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Arch Dornan

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Marduk said:
In the B movie fiction where Germany invades them again, sure.
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Already done back in 1940.

Marduk said:
My point exactly, they are protesting, and there are no armored vehicles on the street.
Meanwhile in China:
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Not yet while they had to deal with undercover cops and got a few warning shots. Escalation.

It's China. They keep a tight lid even as the lid rusts.
 
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Arch Dornan said:
It's a time when neighbours were still aggressive for territory. When it happens again the status quo will have to change again.
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And it's still clownery to make that suggestion. Netherlands are a densely populated country with little resources that is in all possible ways Germany's close ally, so closely tied economically that anything they Germany could want from them, Germany can get it cheaper by just paying or bribing them rather than knocking over the whole structure by invading. If Germany wants to go full hog and start conquering places for shits and giggles, they would be better off teaming up with Netherlands for its navy and grabbing some piece of resource rich land in Africa together. If countries were to sacrifice real world concerns and spending needs for securing against ridiculous hypotheticals you are implying here, everyone with half a brain would be calling their leaders idiots.
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How Vladimir Putin uses the "golden billion" anti-Russian conspiracy …

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Great case of foreign vs domestic addressed propaganda.
Most of you here, you are counted under said "golden billion". Yes, Russian propaganda for domestic and third world purposes says first world countries are run by hardcore self-interested ultranationalists bullying the rest of the world to secure resources for their population's status as "first class people".

Meanwhile the same Russia propagandizes said "golden billion" by saying the exact opposite of this.
 
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Marduk said:
Great case of foreign vs domestic addressed propaganda.
Most of you here, you are counted under said "golden billion". Yes, Russian propaganda for domestic and third world purposes says first world countries are run by hardcore self-interested ultranationalists bullying the rest of the world to secure resources for their population's status as "first class people".

Meanwhile the same Russia propagandizes said "golden billion" by saying the exact opposite of this.
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The interesting thing is that if Russia didn't fall out with the West, Russia itself could have also been a part of this Golden Billion lol.
 
Arch Dornan

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Marduk said:
And it's still clownery to make that suggestion. Netherlands are a densely populated country with little resources that is in all possible ways Germany's close ally, so closely tied economically that anything they Germany could want from them, Germany can get it cheaper by just paying or bribing them rather than knocking over the whole structure by invading. If Germany wants to go full hog and start conquering places for shits and giggles, they would be better off teaming up with Netherlands for its navy and grabbing some piece of resource rich land in Africa together. If countries were to sacrifice real world concerns and spending needs for securing against ridiculous hypotheticals you are implying here, everyone with half a brain would be calling their leaders idiots.
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They're doing it now with their ridiculous hypotheticals of the green policy.
 
Arch Dornan

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Marduk said:
How? Netherlands and Germany are equally idiotic in that area, how could they have a war over it?
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Whatever reason that gets made up for the when. It takes time for ideas considered impossible to one day be possible. Nobody would believe me if I told them the world trade center would one day be destroyed or the Berlin wall would be opened.
 
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Arch Dornan said:
Whatever reason that gets made up for the when. It takes time for ideas considered impossible to one day be possible. Nobody would believe me if I told them the world trade center would one day be destroyed or the Berlin wall would be opened.
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Yeah, sure, totally, everyone thought WTC is immune to terrorism. Can you think up something even less serious? Just admit that you are scrapping the bottom of the barrel for arguments here?
 
Arch Dornan

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Marduk said:
Yeah, sure, totally, everyone thought WTC is immune to terrorism. Can you think up something less serious or just admit that you are scrapping the bottom of the barrel for arguments here?
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No. The only difference is I think up hypotheticals even if they're impossible rather than be the ones in charge spending ridiculous amounts of resources, lives and dedication towards making what sounds ridiculous real.
 
TheRomanSlayer

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WolfBear said:
Yeltsin could have chosen someone else to succeed him in 1999.
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Or have the Union State actually work with Lukashenko as post-Soviet Russia’s dictator. He was on track to succeed Yeltsin, but was blindsided by Yeltsin’s appointment of Putin.

Nazarbayev on the other hand, is another story, but I honestly think that Rutskoy or Burbulis would have been better leaders of post-Soviet Russia than Yeltsin.
 
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