Armchair General's DonbAss Derailed Discussion Thread (Topics Include History, Traps, and the Ongoing Slavic Civil War plus much much more)
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Arch Dornan
Oh, lovely. They've sent me a mo-ron.
I didn't say they were I always refer to them as volunteers.
They disagree otherwise but it's not surprising. I remember Hanoi Hilton.
Yeah, Ukraine did go through the legalese to technically make it so.
There are ways to do that, after all French Foreign Legion is very much a thing.
Ironically, Russia also has its own attempt at this.
So if Russia goes beyond scaremongering with their threats, there could be retaliatory moves in the same area.
More likely than not, if Russia does it, it could be through the hands of its puppet quasi-states, and that in turn may lead to more "fun" reactions around the world regarding these polities.
Could the world declare saidbpuppets terrorist organizations amd deal with them the same way?
Sorry I was being sarcastic.
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Arch Dornan
Oh, lovely. They've sent me a mo-ron.
I know what'll happen in the future. If any Russian volunteer or merc like Wagner gets caught in Russian foreign adventures I expect the same treatment.
Hopefully not. Unless it's after appropriate criminal prosecution.
Arch Dornan
Oh, lovely. They've sent me a mo-ron.
It's the same thing after the formality is done like the volunteers already caught and put on a show trial.
AnimalNoodles
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one of those consequences i harp about.
Well, I guess Wagner won't be treated right either, since they are actual mercs.
Let's hope if the US gets invovled media stays away....
Arch Dornan
Oh, lovely. They've sent me a mo-ron.
Their merc buddies should remember about Syria if there were any left to tell after getting bombed to shit.
I was wondering when they'd show up the fresh meat.
I saw a video of this African guy trying to volunteer.
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paulobrito
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If I remember a common point reported by all volunteers that survived long enough to be back - they think they are going to Syria or Afghanistan and found themselves in Hell. Ukraine's War is the first High-intensity war between two modern armies in a very long time. All the wars in the Middle East don't count (see the reasons why Arabs lose Wars.)
There was an article early in the War where Sergei Lavrov or something stated there's twenty or sixty thousand Syrians/Libyans volunteering to fight for Russia in Ukraine.
I'm sure if they desired to, Russia could recruit significant foreign forces from the Middle East and Africa to fight on their behalf. And there are already foreign fighters fighting on behalf of the Separatist forces in the Donetsk and Luhansk Oblasts. Plus volunteering for Russian Military service is permissible in some circumstances by foreigners (like for most countries), especially from the CIS States.
Ukraine expects EU-wide support for candidacy to join bloc
A Ukrainian deputy prime minister overseeing the country’s push to join the European Union says she’s “100%” certain all 27 EU nations will approve making Ukraine a candidate for membership in the bloc.
apnews.com
Ukraine should improve its corruption levels so that they are at least Balkan/Italian/former Austro-Hungarian (excluding Austria itself, of course) levels:
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EU grants Ukraine candidate status, 'beginning a long journey together'
European Union leaders on Thursday granted Ukraine the coveted status of official candidate to join their 27-nation club, a bold geopolitical step hailed by Kyiv and the EU itself as a "historic moment".
www.reuters.com
This article from 2010 by Russian nationalist blogger Anatoly Karlin has aged very badly:
The People's Choice, or how Ukrainians are Learning to Stop Worrying and Love Eurasia - Anatoly Karlin
I enjoyed the egg-throwing scenes from Ukraine’s Rada on the ratification of the gas-for-fleet deal with Russia as much as anyone. It also reflected the polarized commentary on the interwebs. The Ukrainian patriot-bloggers get their knickers in a sweaty twist. The academic beigeocrat Alexander...
akarlin.com
Developed nation by the 2020s my ass.
Anatoly Karlin to Ukraine in 2010: "Ailing Europe doesn't want you; thus, having you join dynamic Eurasia is inevitable."
2014: Russia conquers Crimea and the Donbass.
February 2022: Russia attacks the rest of Ukraine.
June 2022: Ukraine gets European Union candidacy status.
TBH in 2010 Russia's and company's brand of authoritarianism has looked much softer than it did in 2014, when Russia started went full retard on Ukraine, and even then, in 2014 it looked softer than it does lately, with first Belarus going full retard on opposition, and now Russia doing the same over war opposition.
Even so, there is still the fact that Russia is nowhere near as attractive as the European Union is:
For instance, when it comes to global elite science production, Russia isn't producing very much of it while the European Union (mostly Western Europe) is:
Science Production
Long-time readers will know that I am a fan of The Nature Index for tracking global scientometrics. Unlike raw numbers of articles published, it automatically adjusts for quality, since only submissions to elite journals are counted. In my previous longread on the subject, I presented a per...
www.unz.com
Eastern Europe in general is a backwater for elite science production. Of course, there is a possibility that some of this elite science production could be crap (Woke stuff, failing replication, et cetera), but even so, there should probably still be a good amount of real, legit science in there.
When it comes to European elite science production, it's primarily Germanic + Parisian supremacy!
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Mysterious Invisible Force Struck Down Patriarch Kirill of the Russian Orthodox Church, Smiting him to the Floor of his Very Own Church During a Religious Service!
Clear proof that the 'Invisible Hand' of the Marketplace exists.
Clear proof that the 'Invisible Hand' of the Marketplace exists.
It's almost as if God himself has spoken:
Putin's Top Priest Collapses During Russian Church Ceremony
Patriarch Kirill hurt his back after he fell during a service in the Black Sea city of Novorossiysk.
www.newsweek.com
Specifically this anti-Russian God with big meaty balls (on the right in the painting below, of course)
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