The highest court of the land can simply force courts to do their jobs.
You don't need to create new laws or interpret them differently just stop giving people preferential treatment.
SCOTUS Getting Shade Over Roe v Wade
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The highest court of the land can simply force courts to do their jobs.
You don't need to create new laws or interpret them differently just stop giving people preferential treatment.
See, that's fair, and I'd only say the castration should be done only after a full court case and any appeals.
Because well, Mattress Girl was a thing, and rape accusation are definitely something that has been abused by bad actors in the past.
Viewing 'austism' as a serious birth defect worthy of abortion is part of why this whole debate is so thorny, and why we should be glad the court ruled the way they did.
Because outside visible, definitely lethal disformities visible on ultra-sounds, or falopean pregnancies which will never surive and will kill the mother, there really aren't a lot of medical reasons for an abortion. Putting 'the baby will be autistic' on the reasons for an abortion is pure eugenicist thinking, and part of the anti-life shit the Left have pushed out for years now.
The Right, for all their flaws, would rather a less than perfect child be born and give it a chance to live, while the Left just want a 'more perfect' society, and want to purge anyone who is 'flawed' in a way not convenient to their goals. Also, autistic people are less likely to buy bullshit, and are less susceptible to many types of propaganda; that makes them invaluable in helping fight the asshats who want all their opposition dead.
...this is why Lincoln had Allan Pinkerton put Dems in blacksites.
Not that I'm advocating for that, just...jesus.
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Even then I'm against it. People are wrongfully put to death, I see no reason to expand this to include castration.
Oh, 100% the mother gets a choice. When it comes to self defense, it's important that you have the ability to both do so and not do so.
Fair, I was just thinking of methods to incentive not having an abortion in a case of rape, and that seemed a fairly easy sell to a traumatized woman.
This whole thing shows why RvW was such a shit show and why the fight never really ended. Because at the end of the day, the debate comes down to both life and choice, and how to define where the limits are on those.
Which is why this really should be a state-level issue.
Ixian
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The violinist argument doesn't work. Because unlike a pregnancy the individual didn't agree to an act that they knew could result in another person becoming dependent on them.
I take it that SB is taking this all in stride?
Terthna
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You're welcome to your opinion, but I could not disagree more. Raising a child with autism is like you're being punished for being alive, and the payoff is rarely worth the suffering unless they're the highest of high-functioning. Not wanting to go through that isn't "eugenicist thinking"; it's self-preservation on the level of not wanting to stick your hand in a fire, because you know it'll burn you. In addition, autistic people are no less likely to buy bullshit; in fact, I'd argue we're more likely to buy into the regressive left's nonsense than a normal person. Those of us who aren't too busy screaming, and putting holes in the walls with our heads; like my "brother" (a low-functioning autistic whom I think about as little as possible).
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Did you read what I'm talking about? I'm talking about only cases of rape, where the mother also "didn't agree to an act that they knew could result in another person becoming dependent on them."
I specifically pointed out your exact objection here, in regards to the classic violinist argument:
Also, as a side note for people who hope/fear/wonder that this precedent will expand beyond abortions, there's 4 passages in the majority saying it won't, then Kavanaugh goes off and says it won't as well. No one signed on to Thomas' saying he would.
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Do you know who Alan Turing was?
You act like a child is a monetary investment, with expected ROI, and that is part of the poison the Left have introduced to this culture.
Have you considered that maybe if our culture wasn't so poisonous in many ways, we could find ways for even low-functioning autistic to have good, fulfilling lives that can add valuable contributions to society?
Ixian
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I'd care more if it wasn't for the fact that the vast majority of abortions aren't due to rape. Because they aren't, its an incredibly small percentage.
Yeah, and I'm against those abortions (past 8-9 weeks, when I believe life starts). But here, I'm literally arguing just for an exception for rape. That's it. I'm very happy with Dobbs.
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Lord Sovereign
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Right.
In the kindest possible way:
I have Aspergers syndrome myself, I went to school with the people you describe and I'm vaguely livid you talk about not just our kind, but your own brother in such a manner.
I do business with a lot of aspies, about the only thing that frustrates me is that they tend to be extremely polarized in their reasoning and that it's very difficult to convince them to go along with anything they believe is not the right way to do something.
Though honestly the first flaw is preferable to the utterly shallow reasoning of so many supposedly normal danger hairs and the second one prolly has more to do with them being self made than anything else.
It's kinda hard to tell someone how to do something when they've done everything.
I dunno why you'd wanna abort autistic people. Even the wall screeching ones...there are methods of correcting and helping them overtime.
That just seems like self hatred more than anything else.
Though honestly the first flaw is preferable to the utterly shallow reasoning of so many supposedly normal danger hairs and the second one prolly has more to do with them being self made than anything else.
It's kinda hard to tell someone how to do something when they've done everything.
I dunno why you'd wanna abort autistic people. Even the wall screeching ones...there are methods of correcting and helping them overtime.
That just seems like self hatred more than anything else.
Well I lost the bet. It didn't take long for the N Word to come out after the decision. Got to pay the 5 bucks now.
you really dont like having money do you?