LindyAF
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Capitol riot defendant alleges beating by jail guards
A man accused in the Jan. 6 unrest was left partially blind and moved to another facility, lawyers say.
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AnimalNoodles
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Capitol riot defendant alleges beating by jail guards
A man accused in the Jan. 6 unrest was left partially blind and moved to another facility, lawyers say.
They are finally going to learn that the pig system hates them and backing the blue is pointless.
the sooner the right wingers realize that the police aren't really on our side, the better.
I mean. Yes there are right wing police. But they've been letting rioters go and riot and dropping charges for a year, but are so quick to throw the book at the right wingers who do it.
While there are many good individuals, The police, as an organization, are not on our side.
Depends on where you are.
That is the issue, if you give up supporting the police they have less reason to hold back. Without support either quit or do your job still and make it so you have to do more
Support your police if you are smart enough to know how they align politically...
Police do not make the decision on if charges are dropped, nor are they the group that gets to decide to throw the book at someone. That is entirely up to the local District Attorneys, and while many have cozy relationships with the cops, most of the ones who are doing those things were Soros funded far left nutjobs who hate the cops and the law.
I'm not saying cops are OK, but blame needs to be accurately placed where it is due. In this case especially, as while there is only limited things people can do to clean up the police system, they CAN actually solve the issue of bad DAs quite directly, as those are directly ELECTED positions. Those bad DAs can and should be challenged by candidates who will equally uphold the law.
AnimalNoodles
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Im not advocating open hostility, but Back The Blue was always stupid.
What we have seen is that the antifa types are free to do as they please, which includes not only vandalism, but murder, yet everyone who has stood up for themselves, even if only to brandish weapons to discourage these attackers, they have had the book thrown at them by the authorities, which has included having evidence tampered with by them, as well as doxxing information about them so that the antifa types can focus their efforts on them. In Michigan, a state official doxxed someone and their family because they were reluctant to certify what they thought to be fraudulent results and there were exactly zero consequences for them for doing so. Meanwhile, a kid who literally only defended himself from people who were directly attacking him, including a felon who was armed with a pistol and drew down on him, has had the book thrown at him. People who stood out on their lawn with firearms (including one that didn't even work) to keep people who had already violently torn down a gate away from them and their property had the book thrown at them, and the state even provably tampered with the evidence. A man who sat in his own house with firearm who was being harassed by these thugs, who had already trespassed on his property had the police come and arrest him instead. A man who stood up to these barbarians as they attacked stores and burned them has likewise had the book thrown at him. Meanwhile none of these antifa types have faced any consequences for their crimes, and the same police who would happily do another Waco to any other group of people, including just normal average Americans who are guilty of nothing more than wanting to be left alone, will treat these people with kid gloves.
I view the entire law enforcement system as corrupt, and not on our side. Even if some individuals are.
If the democrats banned guns today, the same police that the right supports, will be kicking down our doors tomorrow.
LordsFire
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You two seem to be completely ignoring that this is not federalized police doing this. This is police set up and run in each of those local areas.
Can you name for me some places where the local governments (including police) aren't controlled by flaming leftists where they've been this abusive to people trying to protect themselves?
Because if you can't, I don't see how your 'don't support the police in general' attitude is reasonable.
Can you name for me some places where the local governments (including police) aren't controlled by flaming leftists where they've been this abusive to people trying to protect themselves?
Because if you can't, I don't see how your 'don't support the police in general' attitude is reasonable.
The fact that they're willing to oppress us just because their leaders have a D by their name enforces my point, rather than disproving it.
For all the reputation of their general idiocy and posturing, Antifa does have fairly competent people in the upper echelons of their organization, and the simplest proof of that is the high accuracy of their... venue shopping. AKA how they choose the locations of their activities according to their ability to largely get away with them in said location in every way - legal and physical, in regard both to private and public actors.
That's why the worst of the rioting we hear of comes from places that are notorious for established far left influence in their governance, like the infamous "Antifa Central" that is Portland, combined with accordingly tame population that will be unwilling to cause them much trouble either (usually correlated, if they were sick of far left, they would not be electing it).
But sometimes mistakes happen, and if some branch of Antifa makes a mistake in venue shopping, you get scenes like this, and as far as i know, no "consequences" befell on these people.
AnimalNoodles
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The cops will support the people who pay their pensions.
AnimalNoodles
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'Antifa' is a way for much larger and more powerful structures to politically launder themselves and operate under the radar. The typical actual Antifa is either a striver or some kind of lumpenprole. By themselves they are largely useless. But Antifa cloaks the well organised, funded and connected groups that operate in the back..they are the ones that do the true work. They are the ones that provide the legal help, the intelligence, the transportation, pay the bills and organise things. Without thier support antifa was largely incapable of much beyond raping underage teens and smoking meth.
I hope not, but with what has been happening on the national level, the thing to keep in mind is that while it might be the case on a local level, things have a way of changing when pressure comes down from above. An example of this is that cop who made a video reminding fellow police officers that they need to keep people's rights in mind, no matter what a mayor or governor might say. On a local level, his fellow officers agreed with him and supported him, but then it came down from the state level that he had to remove that video he made or get suspended. He had integrity, and so that's just what happened to him, and all those guys and his boss who had supported him and agreed with him only a day prior turned on him, or were at the very least just not there to stick up for him or protest what happened to him.
LordsFire
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...No, it does not. The fact that officers hired by, trained by, and working for leftist politicians act in accordance with leftist lunacy does not support the idea that officers hired by, trained by, and working for conservative politicians, are not automatically going to be behaving the same way.
they will as soon as a D takes their R's place.
The police are going to end up in a position where they have no friends and no allies.
And its very hard for me to have any sympathy because they did it to themselves.
Not really?
It all depends.
I for one, know that a lot of officers in a blue county in GA are right leaning and are more likely to let you go if you support them then if you don't.
In my county, our Sheriff alone has said they will not enforce any federal laws they deem unconstitutional. It wouldn't matter of the state was R or D. Because the local government pays them, and even then a lot have morality, and a decent amount are ex military
Sheriffs are not Police. They don't answer to politicians, they are directly elected themselves. As such, if they alienate the population by enforcing laws that directly harm them, the population can easily replace them.
As such, what Sheriffs say and do are no indication of what Police will say and do, and vice versa.
In some.places the Sheriff has indirect control over local Police.. especially small town ones. In my county the Sheriff was more or less the head LEO and the city police listened to him.
Of course they don't have to, but they did because they want cooperation.
Sheriffs are those that are willing to help should they be R and not D