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They are minors. One is 13. Laws work differently
Yes.
Let me be absolutely clear: I'm not arguing that they're being unfairly punished. I am only saying that it is factually a lesser offense than "true" murder, amplified to a murder charge by the felony murder rule.
That only effects how they are charged. The article is specifically talking about them getting a plea deal. Also, the assumption that juveniles are more likely to be reformed should be challenged considering what was seen in the video, and the knowledge that the 13 year old has apparently participated in a carjacking previously.
I'm just saying.
Oh I know just saying what they can be charged with
Terthna
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To be fair, nobody isn't a sociopath at that age; I think it's as much the parents' fault as it is theirs, for letting them run wild like this.
I'm not going to be too worried about the plea deal until I know what it is. A lot of people are offered plea deals because it saves the state resources it desperately needs instead of waiting months for a trial in court. If it's still a significant punishment (with the allowance that the criminals are minors), I'll be fine.
Indeed. Prosecutors will generally *always* be willing to put some kind of plea deal on the table, although it may be one harsh enough that the defendant is unlikely to take it.
On a broader-than-this-case note, plea bargaining does tend to create a perverse incentive for the innocent to plead guilty because it's a better outcome than risking everything at trial, especially against the increasingly serious backdrop of cases where the evidence was tampered with. The right tends to go along with this out of knee-jerk "tough on crime", but it really appears that "being a prosecutor" trumps all political ideology; even Kamala Harris officially argued that tampering with evidence to coerce a guilty plea isn't prosecutorial misconduct *and* shouldn't be grounds for an appeal.
I don't get where the 'even' part comes from, 'especially' seems much more apt. Kamala is a cop through and through, and a dirty one at that, and even when she isn't being a dirty cop, she's threatening truant's parents with jail or arresting people for marijuana when she had the privilege to do it in school with no consequences. She's human scum, and why I get worried that Biden might get hurt enough to abdicate.
you do realize if they handn't car jacked no one would have died.
If they had simply stayed home and played video games every one would have been better off.
Oh, this fucking bitch. So disabled shouldn't even dare dream about great things, just suffer quietly and don't waste too much money?
your suprised thats how socialists are.
Stop, i am good anglican,not catho......Arghhhhh.
PsihoKekec
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...Not sure if a troll or if there is some Christian nutcase that believes this:
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...Not sure if a troll or if there is some Christian nutcase that believes this:
Came across this as I was looking at an interesting article about Jupiter and the blur between stars and planets.Did Satan start computers through Alan Turing because Satan plans to use artificial intelligence in end times? Isn't it strange the way h...
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puritans genocided all indians they could find in Nort America becouse they belived that they are New Israel in New Canaan,so at least in case of protestants,you could find people beliving in everything.
Bear Ribs
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Bit of hate/love/hate whiplash on this one.
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In Toronto there's a community park, and the path up the hill to it was steep and rocky. The people petitioned the city asking for a stairway to be put in. The city gathered various estimates and concluded the short stairway would cost between $65,000-160,000 dollars to build.
After a woman broke her wrist in a fall while the city was still figuring out how massive a bribe they needed for eight wooden steps, a local man hired one of Toronto's homeless as an assistant and built the 8-step structure for $550.
The city promptly covered the steps in caution tape to keep people from using them. When they didn't work, they tore his steps down over the protests of everybody who had to deal with that dangerous pathway and many others as well. The steps were so well built they needed an entire crew with power tools and sledgehammers to get them apart.
The mayor was able to get a new set of steps made after seeing the massive outcry. He was even able to get a steep discount when people started asking pointed questions about why the city needed 100 times more money than a normal citizen for the same structure. Somehow the $65,000 stairs were built for a mere $10,000, allowing the city to build steps it already had and destroyed, but now with the mayor's name attached to the project instead of some homeless guy.
Man builds park stairs for $550, irking city after $65,000 estimate
When the city said it would cost $65,000 to build a set of stairs in his local park, this Toronto resident built them himself for just $550.
theheartysoul.com
In Toronto there's a community park, and the path up the hill to it was steep and rocky. The people petitioned the city asking for a stairway to be put in. The city gathered various estimates and concluded the short stairway would cost between $65,000-160,000 dollars to build.
After a woman broke her wrist in a fall while the city was still figuring out how massive a bribe they needed for eight wooden steps, a local man hired one of Toronto's homeless as an assistant and built the 8-step structure for $550.
The city promptly covered the steps in caution tape to keep people from using them. When they didn't work, they tore his steps down over the protests of everybody who had to deal with that dangerous pathway and many others as well. The steps were so well built they needed an entire crew with power tools and sledgehammers to get them apart.
The mayor was able to get a new set of steps made after seeing the massive outcry. He was even able to get a steep discount when people started asking pointed questions about why the city needed 100 times more money than a normal citizen for the same structure. Somehow the $65,000 stairs were built for a mere $10,000, allowing the city to build steps it already had and destroyed, but now with the mayor's name attached to the project instead of some homeless guy.
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Per the article, Astl's makeshift steps were not level, did not have a proper safety railing, and had no foundation. Those are pretty valid reasons for not considering them acceptable, and the professionally built ones that replaced them did not have those significant flaws.
See, this is the problem with regulation. The solution given was better than what was there, and perfect is the enemy of the good. By having so many standards, it raises the cost to fix problems, which then don't get fixed because resources are finite. This is why infrastructure never gets built in the US.