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Bear Ribs

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Per the article, Astl's makeshift steps were not level, did not have a proper safety railing, and had no foundation. Those are pretty valid reasons for not considering them acceptable, and the professionally built ones that replaced them did not have those significant flaws.
Per the video of the stairs included in the article, that's quite evidently a self-serving lie by the city as there was a handrail, and only one handrail is required per the Ontario building code. As for foundation, guess what? According to the building code you don't need one, the steps can rest right on the ground as long as the wood has preservative treatment. And stair risers aren't required to be level beyond a limit of 1:50. Now looking at the video, it's possible the stairs exceed that so that one could be valid but given the city was making it's facts up for the other two, I wouldn't count on it.

In reality the stairs committed the much graver offense of making the city fathers look bad and they were obviously willing to bend the truth however they felt like and make up new regulations on the fly in order to keep themselves from looking bad and pass a ridiculous amount of cash off to somebody who gave the mayor an appropriate campaign contribution.
 

Zachowon

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Per the article, Astl's makeshift steps were not level, did not have a proper safety railing, and had no foundation. Those are pretty valid reasons for not considering them acceptable, and the professionally built ones that replaced them did not have those significant flaws.
Have you ever built stairs? They arnt hard and I did the one for my eagle project for like..88 dollars.
 

Knowledgeispower

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Have you ever built stairs? They arnt hard and I did the one for my eagle project for like..88 dollars.
Ah Eagle Projects. I built a bridge for my High School's cross country trail for mine. 21 feet long as I recall and the crazy part is that it was only the second longest of the four bridges that various Eagle projects built for that trail all over the course of a Summer. And I helped with all of them. And they're still there and maintained by the cross country team eight years later
 

Zachowon

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Ah Eagle Projects. I built a bridge for my High School's cross country trail for mine. 21 feet long as I recall and the crazy part is that it was only the second longest of the four bridges that various Eagle projects built for that trail all over the course of a Summer. And I helped with all of them. And they're still there and maintained by the cross country team eight years later
I built stairs for a gun club north of where I was
 

Wargamer08

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For that much money, I could fly over, buy tools and supplies, make a crappy test build, scrap it, replace it, and still make more money in profit than I do in a year.
Not if you need to pay off the city’s inspector and permits department.

Though this is a good look at why the government cannot get anything done and why trusting it with any kind of monopoly is just dumb.
 

Terthna

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Per the video of the stairs included in the article, that's quite evidently a self-serving lie by the city as there was a handrail, and only one handrail is required per the Ontario building code. As for foundation, guess what? According to the building code you don't need one, the steps can rest right on the ground as long as the wood has preservative treatment. And stair risers aren't required to be level beyond a limit of 1:50. Now looking at the video, it's possible the stairs exceed that so that one could be valid but given the city was making it's facts up for the other two, I wouldn't count on it.

In reality the stairs committed the much graver offense of making the city fathers look bad and they were obviously willing to bend the truth however they felt like and make up new regulations on the fly in order to keep themselves from looking bad and pass a ridiculous amount of cash off to somebody who gave the mayor an appropriate campaign contribution.
It almost seems like a parody, but this actually happened. Canada is screwed.
 

ATP

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Uh. No?

The Puritans were only one portion of the colonists who came to North America, and they didn't commit genocide either.
Then where are indian tribes which welcomed first english settlers and saved them from death? Or at least their mixed-blood descendents,like in South america.When conquistadors could massacre locals,but never genocided for religious reasons.
 

LordsFire

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Then where are indian tribes which welcomed first english settlers and saved them from death? Or at least their mixed-blood descendents,like in South america.When conquistadors could massacre locals,but never genocided for religious reasons.

Some died of disease, some were destroyed or absorbed by other tribes, some were absorbed into the population of European colonists, some still exist on Indian reservations, or even off of them.

All kinds of things happened. Just like happened to all kinds of tribes and people groups through history that weren't wiped out, but are no longer recognizeable as what they once were because they were absorbed or the like.

Genocide is a deliberate campaign of total destruction, and if you're going to claim that happened, you're going to have to present proof.
 

LordsFire

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You're saying there wasn't a concerted effort to remove the kebab?

No. There were a lot of efforts against individual tribes in different times and places, and even some amount of concerted efforts at specific tribes at specific times.

But to act like there was one unified wave of effort to drive the Indians out or destroy them from the moment Europeans started colonizing the New World is farcical in the extreme. A lot of messy and ugly things happened, but the way some people act like it happened is a fairy tale.
 

Zachowon

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More info I have figured out.

It is being suspended for budgeting cuts.

Source is from a post by ignited. The TA for the Army.
I have been trying to get more but it has been passed through official Army channels
 

Knowledgeispower

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More info I have figured out.

It is being suspended for budgeting cuts.

Source is from a post by ignited. The TA for the Army.
I have been trying to get more but it has been passed through official Army channels
Well this once again proves that if the Dems are trying to seize power by force they're sucking at securing the loyalty of the military which is step number one
 

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