paulobrito
Well-known member
You need an updated sensor suite to track these pesky drones well enough to generate firing solutions is not that easy for older systems.
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Eh, drones aren't cheap either. Or, let me rephrase, drones that require something heavier than rifle fire are not cheap. Once you get to any level of altitude or payload, or range, the costs start increasing very quickly. Like, something on the scale of the AAI RQ-7 is basically a million a pop weapon system. And if you have to engage it at its maximum altitude some 4-5 km up, at ranges much greater than 1-2 km missiles get increasingly effective compared to cannon fire anyways if the target is at all manuverable.
Knowledgeispower
Ah I love the smell of missile spam in the morning
Of course a sensor and fire control upgrade would be needed but that would pretty much guaranteed if the design was revived and brought into service. They'd also probably wack some light AA missile tubes on the side of the turret while they where at it
Tiamat
I've seen the future...
And now I have yet another possible "what-if" vehicle to stat for fanfic. But yeah, it seems a bit like a solution in search of a problem. Unless of course, you were to develop proximity-fused sensor ammunition like Bofors was developing around that time and mate that with the gun and a capable radar system, would have made a more effective ADA system, couple that with AP and HE-FRAG ammunition when using it against ground targets, it might have made a decent multipurpose support weapon.
The end of the Cold War killed this idea with plenty others, but if the Cold War hadn't ended or had gone hot, hmmm....
Knowledgeispower
Ah I love the smell of missile spam in the morning
The 76mm Oto Melera gun already had a proximity fuse for its shells indeed 3" shells having such fuses was a thing in 1945. The big thing about the 40mm Bofors proximity fuse shells was that for the time they where the absolutely smallest shells that had proximity fuses. Also in the meantime IRL the Italians have developed all sorts of shells for the gun mainly for naval use including ones that they think can shoot down missiles indeed that's what they use as CIWS on their current and projected naval designs
Vargas Fan
Head over heels in love :)
I'm not sure if this should go under armour or not, but apparently the result of an attack on a Panzer IV. The original caption I saw said it was the result of an attack by a USAAF P-47, but it could equally be an ammo cook off from an attack by another tank or tank destroyer. I don't imagine anyone got out alive.
It look like modern art.I'm not sure if this should go under armour or not, but apparently the result of an attack on a Panzer IV. The original caption I saw said it was the result of an attack by a USAAF P-47, but it could equally be an ammo cook off from an attack by another tank or tank destroyer. I don't imagine anyone got out alive.
Knowledgeispower
Ah I love the smell of missile spam in the morning
Anyone getting out alive depends entirely on whether or not the ammo cooked off before anyone could bail out and run a decent distance awayI'm not sure if this should go under armour or not, but apparently the result of an attack on a Panzer IV. The original caption I saw said it was the result of an attack by a USAAF P-47, but it could equally be an ammo cook off from an attack by another tank or tank destroyer. I don't imagine anyone got out alive.
PsihoKekec
Swashbuckling Accountant
Or if it was the crew blowing up the damaged tank during retreat.
A tank i have become to know well...
And a tank I have argued with another analyst about.
It is the iconic Russian tank.
And a guy claims it can kill an Abrams
T-54/55. And not in any realistic combat scenario. If the Abrams is sitting there unmanned and the T-54 gets the chance to just pick its position and aim anywhere without hurry, then maybe.
He said "Can kill it from the side."
Basically that is what I was saying. It has to hit an unmanned one that isn't fighting back...in middle of the day without any obstructions
In that scenario,dude with explosives could do the same.
Aaron Fox
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Looks like a T-55... which can penetrate an Abrams via the good ol' surprise buttsex method and not much else... and good luck in getting into position to do said surprise buttsex...
A tank i have become to know well...
And a tank I have argued with another analyst about.
It is the iconic Russian tank.
And a guy claims it can kill an Abrams
Ah, Battletech has some pretty sensible tank designs despite the system making tanks not as capable. In this case, say hello to the Gürteltier, or as I like to call the 'Guert'. The standard variant is armed with a gauss rifle, an IS ERPPC, a Multi-Missile Launcher 7, and three machineguns for pesky infantry with all the explosive ammo located in CASE bins. Oh, it has a targeting computer, a C3 Slave system, and an ECM suite, you know just for kicks.
As some of my fellow Battletech players said when I showed up with two of them, they said they were disgusting (in Alpha Strike, it has 12 armor pips, 5 structural pips, and deals 4 damage at all ranges).
It would depend on the round it is using too.
And yes it is a T-54/55
paulobrito
Well-known member
Anything that kills a 'Mech is illegal in BT. At a minimum, greatly nerfed.
PsihoKekec
Swashbuckling Accountant
Sure, if the crew is Saudis or Iraqis and T-55 crew is competent.
A tank i have become to know well...
And a tank I have argued with another analyst about.
It is the iconic Russian tank.
And a guy claims it can kill an Abrams
paulobrito
Well-known member
Mandatory - or if launched at sufficient velocity.
I think there are some modern upgrades to the thing that make it possible, some of the modernized t-55s are barely recognizable as such.
And a 100 mm gun is still a pretty big gun, so likely not fun to get hit with.
So, assuming comparable crew and not grossly different on some upgrades (for example, if their optics are in similar classes of at least tech level) it's probably a closer fight than one would assume given the age difference. The T 55 really is a fairly solid tank design.
And a 100 mm gun is still a pretty big gun, so likely not fun to get hit with.
So, assuming comparable crew and not grossly different on some upgrades (for example, if their optics are in similar classes of at least tech level) it's probably a closer fight than one would assume given the age difference. The T 55 really is a fairly solid tank design.