Your Political Beliefs

Train Dodger said:
Rent-seeking produces nothing. When someone sits on a chunk of property and speculates on its future increase of value, it doesn't actually add anything to society when it is sold at the higher price. This applies to everything from stocks, bonds and derivatives to real estate. Say you have a plot of land that has appreciated in value 300%, even if you didn't actually do anything to it in the intervening time, even if it's still the same empty, grassy lot that it was when you bought it. Where does the surplus value come from? Where is the added value to civilization? Just because something becomes more scarce or more valuable in monetary terms, that doesn't mean its actual utility has increased.
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So, if you had to acknowledge the necessity of a State, would that make you a supporter of the Georgist Single Tax? And have you accordingly considered moving to Arden, Delaware, since it was founded on Georgist principles?
 
Punch Card Girl said:
So, if you had to acknowledge the necessity of a State, would that make you a supporter of the Georgist Single Tax? And have you accordingly considered moving to Arden, Delaware, since it was founded on Georgist principles?
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If I accepted the necessity of the state, then yes, I probably would, in fact, support a form of Georgism. If I had to forego the state, then I would support a kind of communalism or syndicalism instead. I have absolutely no love for giant, authoritarian autocracies that forbid individual freedoms. To put it bluntly, I am skeptical of the rat race and much of what society terms as "work". If people are to have jobs, they should be fulfilling, meaningful, and fruitful enterprises, not exercises in futile box-ticking or assembly-line-like drudgery.

I am increasingly convinced that a return to cottage industries, artisan crafts, and care for one's community is preferable to some of the more dehumanizing aspects of industrialized society. If we are to automate entire job sectors away, then people must still have things to do that are pleasing and meaningful to them. Culture and craft should replace the ritual imprisonment of the cubicle and the factory. Leave that work to machines, rather than reducing people to machines.

With a return to Craft, we can get back to what once was beautiful about society. Even as recently as a hundred years ago, we had great architects and visionaries. Where are this generation's equivalent of Frank Lloyd Wright, Raymond Loewy, and Bucky Fuller? Where have the dreamers gone? If we remove drudgery and homogeneity, we can get back to creative freedom and dynamism as a species.
 
Punch Card Girl said:
That's a rather absurd statement if you're American; our society was partially indigenous and partially African from the very first days, and we can't escape the legacy of that.
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Our society was, our nation was not. The indigenous people, rightly, see themselves as part of separate nations from us. Africans are part of our society and some of them can integrate, like Candace Owens and Jesse Lee Peterson, but most Africans are not members of our national identity but their own.

Let me assure you that I'm more conservative than you are and I'm happily married to another woman. This is all very odd and I don't think you're serious at-all, surely now?
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I'm not competing to be more "conservative". And I think we have a responsibility to propagate our nation to ensure it's security and a future for our children. I personally find men gross, but I will raise at least three children for our nation, if only to make sure the invaders don't attempt to replace us, I don't see anything wrong with being concerned with the future of our culture.
 
Belinda said:
Our society was, our nation was not. The indigenous people, rightly, see themselves as part of separate nations from us. Africans are part of our society and some of them can integrate, like Candace Owens and Jesse Lee Peterson, but most Africans are not members of our national identity but their own.


I'm not competing to be more "conservative". And I think we have a responsibility to propagate our nation to ensure it's security and a future for our children. I personally find men gross, but I will raise at least three children for our nation, if only to make sure the invaders don't attempt to replace us, I don't see anything wrong with being concerned with the future of our culture.
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I daresay d’Annunzio would have liked you, he seemed to sleep with sapphists a great deal. Are you really sure you are quite all right?
 
Truthfully, my political beliefs have morphed a lot over the years and they continue to change and evolve.

Way back, I was a libertarian minarchist. It still says I am so on alternate history because I'm notoriously lazy. I used to believe that everything should be privatized and would joke about a cyberpunk world where corporations ran everything. Nowadays, I am repulsed by monopolies trying to control the way people think and the way they have no respect for privacy.

In addition, I do not oppose welfare programs in principle as I have before. Nowadays, I favor programs that focus on people being self-sustaining if possible and caring for those who are unable to care for themselves due to injury, mental states, and/or inadequate private charities. Private charities should fill in the gap first as government reinforces it.

I believe that capitalism is superior to socialism in every way, however. Free markets drive innovation and deliver prosperity and excessive regulation is costly. There is a place for government research and investment in strategic industries such as technology. Like it or not, the nation who dominates the internet determines the state of individual freedom and privacy in the world. This is in addition to roads and nuclear power to create the infrastructure necessary for people to succeed. The military is needed.

I still am very libertarian when it comes to individual rights. Privacy, free speech, the right to bear arms, etc. They cannot be infringed. Hate speech laws only serve the powerful and if we get into regulating religion, that takes us down a very dangerous road.

Issues such as immigration should be simple, easy to understand, kept neither too high nor too low, and backed up by enforcement. The lack of these qualities or the understanding of them has led to terrible polarization.
 
Belinda said:
Our society was, our nation was not. The indigenous people, rightly, see themselves as part of separate nations from us. Africans are part of our society and some of them can integrate, like Candace Owens and Jesse Lee Peterson, but most Africans are not members of our national identity but their own.
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To give up on different races coming together to be simply American is to give up something fundamental to what makes our nation great. Identity politics is not a game with any winners.
 
FriedCFour said:
Would our children be white children, by any chance?
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If so only incidentally because right now we're the majority and because due to the mind poison of "multiculturalism" most minorities have been persuaded by the internationalists of both stripes to reject our nation.

Maybe an image would help explain?
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almostinsane said:
To give up on different races coming together to be simply American is to give up something fundamental to what makes our nation great. Identity politics is not a game with any winners.
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You say that and yet our nation is clearly in decline because we've pretended it doesn't work.
 
Finally took one of those stupid political tests again
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Naturally, its wrong, as I'm closer to the centre on both axes like this shit likes to place me. This is why I fucking hate political compass "HurrDurr LeFt/rIgHt" "aUtHoRiTaRiAn/lOlBeRtArIan" dichotomy crap
 
Yokkiziikzekker said:
Finally took one of those stupid political tests again
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Naturally, its wrong, as I'm closer to the centre on both axes like this shit likes to place me. This is why I fucking hate political compass "HurrDurr LeFt/rIgHt" "aUtHoRiTaRiAn/lOlBeRtArIan" dichotomy crap
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I honestly don't believe those charts are ever accurate.
 
HistoryMinor said:
Just say fascist.
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Why would you get that idea? My ideal society, the one I think would bring about the best outcomes, is one where members of the nation decide things in an absolute democracy and without a state. How can I be a Fascist if there's no state and it's not totalitarian? People like to throw that word around a lot.
 
Belinda said:
I'm a Third Positionist from what I've been told. Basically our nation is the fundamental basis of our society, anything else leads to tribalistic in-fighting. So the nation are our people and our people are European.

I don't think you need to be white to be a member of our nation and culture, but because of the ways liberals have lied to and propagandized to minorities about the cancer that is multiculturalism it means most won't choose to integrate and so we should pay the ones who choose not to integrate into our culture to move somewhere else.

Nor should we be buying into the dumb internationalist capitalism vs internationalist socialism divide. Capital should not divide our people and should be abolished to dissuade the ability of internationalist capitalists to subvert and take control of our nation behind the scenes.

As for gays and trans, I'm in favor of equality for the ones who choose to respect our society. There's a difference between being LGBT and a degenerate, for example: I'm a lesbian, but I'm going to look for someone to mother children for from within our nation to keep it strong. No silly moral nihilistic fetish "pride" festivals, none of this sexual promiscuity.
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Soooo...
Only whites are american and miscegenation is bad and you're just gonna lie back and take it from a dude even though you don't like men?

Is that about the size of it?
 
ReeeFallin said:
Soooo...
Only whites are american and miscegenation is bad and you're just gonna lie back and take it from a dude even though you don't like men?

Is that about the size of it?
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No, of course not, like I said: `I don't think you need to be white to be a member of our nation and culture, but because of the ways liberals have lied to and propagandized to minorities about the cancer that is multiculturalism it means most won't choose to integrate and so we should pay the ones who choose not to integrate into our culture to move somewhere else. `
 
Belinda said:
No, of course not, like I said: `I don't think you need to be white to be a member of our nation and culture, but because of the ways liberals have lied to and propagandized to minorities about the cancer that is multiculturalism it means most won't choose to integrate and so we should pay the ones who choose not to integrate into our culture to move somewhere else. `
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And the rest of it?
 
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