Tzeentchean Perspective
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A comparison of infection rates based on "states with the highest number of deaths/cases according to part leadership" will reveal something striking.
China Wuhan Virus Pandemic
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MenimenLoop
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damn, that was bad. hopefully this pandemic can end soon.
Morphic Tide
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The mechanism for cases being bad has jack shit to do with airflow; What is happening is unrelated to anything ventilators do, outside the tertiary pneumonia that's still not the major cause of hypoxia, because it damages oxygen transfer directly, and causes cytokine storms, before pneumonia happens. So airflow itself doesn't give oxygen, and the lungs are damaged by inflammation, before infections compromising airflow occur.
In other words, the primary suggestions of treatment of the terminal cases do not work. The supply issues the quarentine is predicated on are not relevant, because ventilators are not a working treatment, and they're the main thing that'd actually need hospital beds. The treatments currently being suggested that are working are pill regimens that can be done at home, using generics that every chemical plant on Earth has the legal ability to produce.
Arch Dornan
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I can post again. Maybe I'll get booted out longer again because of so and so being a derail. Not going to reply to anyone anymore if it's seen as a derail.
US Navy ship infection cases going up.
US Navy ship infection cases going up.
Because they have to, for the families sake, because if the medals wont it will spread over open source and wint end well
Arch Dornan
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India death toll rising.
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Virus spreading in Chinese hospital.
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Newest drug to enter the scene?
Karmic Acumen
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Not sure how legit this is, but the video HAS been disappeared from YouTube once already,
Looks like the COs need to end all port visits and do Gator Squares in certain locations until they get new orders.
Well it's important to be skeptical.
This video kinda goes into the whole ventilator brouhaha... Or rather the commentary around.
LifeisTiresome
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Can Estrogen and Other Sex Hormones Help Men Survive Covid-19? (Published 2020)
Men are more likely than women to die of the coronavirus, so scientists are treating them with something women have more of: female sex hormones.
Call me paranoid, but I just see this as 1 more move by the establishment to weaken men.
Navarro
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6 monkeys given an experimental coronavirus vaccine from Oxford did not catch COVID-19 after heavy exposure, raising hopes for a human vaccine
A team from the University of Oxford is leading the way in the search for an effective vaccine for the coronavirus. Human trials started last week.
www.businessinsider.com
Good news.
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From what I could read, it doesn't seem to even be that effective. But yes I can definitely see it being continued. Under the flag of either medical purposes and later for making boys(and men) more docile and submissive.Can Estrogen and Other Sex Hormones Help Men Survive Covid-19? (Published 2020)
Men are more likely than women to die of the coronavirus, so scientists are treating them with something women have more of: female sex hormones.www.nytimes.com
Call me paranoid, but I just see this as 1 more move by the establishment to weaken men.
Tzeentchean Perspective
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And I will say once again buddy, severe cases are always going to be bad.
Youtuber FPSdiesal look him b
Up as he had/has COVID and isnt dying like you keep claiming. He says it sucks but isnt as bad for 90 percent of people
Morphic Tide
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And again the two of us are saying that it is a different kind of bad. The TL;DR is that we have medicines that intervene several steps before the ventilators, blocking underlying symptoms that cause the pneumonia in the first place, including reducing further cell infection, and the clotting that is the more common proximate cause of death. And the ventilators are making those severe cases worse by placing even further strain on the internal structures already compromised by the virus, because low airflow from pneumonia isn't the primary cause of hypoxia.
It's not panicking about it being a massive general threat. It's being freaked out about the medical professionals being left in the dark about what this shit is actually doing and how to treat that, making the bad cases into fatal ones for negative reason.
It's not panicking about it being a massive general threat. It's being freaked out about the medical professionals being left in the dark about what this shit is actually doing and how to treat that, making the bad cases into fatal ones for negative reason.
THEY ARNT BEING LEFT IN THE DARK! Almost all of the stuff the media reports are coming after this stuff has been tested, and often times medical professionals in the hospitals are administering it...
Especially if it is already a proven and tested drug!!!
They call it clinical trials for a reason.
What you both are doing is Doom mongering.
What is being glossed over is the fact that the Ventilatiors are made to not be a cure or a way to help them heal... it is to allow those with serious cases to hopefully heal.
There's another paper that just came out that shows exactly how this virus causes multi-organ injury:
Follow-up studies in COVID-19 recovered patients - is it mandatory?
The novel Coronavirus disease 2019 (COVID-19) is an illness caused due to Severe acute respiratory syndrome coronavirus-2 (SARS-CoV-2). The World Heal…www.sciencedirect.com
In most people, this won't happen. If uncontrolled spread of this virus is allowed, however, then every major city will have hundreds of thousands of cases, of which some tens of thousands will be severe or critical. It's not the mortality rate that's the problem. It's the infectiousness and rate of spread.
C.I.A. Hunts for Authentic Virus Totals in China, Dismissing Government Tallies (Published 2020)
Intelligence officials have told the White House for weeks that China has vastly understated the spread of the coronavirus and the damage the pandemic has done.
In the known cases, this virus has had a 6.95% case fatality rate so far. 3,126,806 confirmed cases, 217,555 deaths.
Serological tests are trying to determine how many asymptomatic cases there are out there, but many of those tests can have false positives.
The truth is, the number of mild or asymptomatic cases could be far greater or far lower than we think. We don't know.
This. More of the patients could be saved if there was a more accurate picture of the pathology of the virus and how to treat it. This notion of COVID-19 as a mere pneumonia is plainly false. It's a form of coagulopathy and endotheliitis, systemic inflammation, sepsis, and multiple organ failure in one. The pneumonia is an effect of what the virus does, not the cause.
Where the hell did you get that percentage? Is that the world one? Are you including the Lie if the chinese?
And the issue with that percentage is you also have to accept the purpose that every death is directly from COVID when a lot probably arnt..
LordsFire
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This is ignoring the recent anti-body studies done that have shown infection rates in the general public are probably between 50-80 *times* higher than what testing of those who actually go in for medical attention have revealed.
Seriously, your continual focus more or less exclusively on the worst end of things isn't helping. You talk like things will only possibly be worst-case scenario.