Will Chinese increase in Amphibious capabilities present a threat to US and its allies in the pacific?

Zachowon

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This article helps show the increase of their forces, as well as allowing them to have a force capable of invading Taiwan.

Does this perceive to be big threat to US dominance of the Marine force market?
 

Bacle

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No, because the Virginia class are a thing and we just sold a bunch of Mk 48s to Taiwan.

Amphibs and landing transports make wonderful targets for subs.
 

Zachowon

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No, because the Virginia class are a thing and we just sold a bunch of Mk 48s to Taiwan.

Amphibs and landing transports make wonderful targets for subs.
Good to know, good to know
 

Husky_Khan

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Hot take. They'll need that extra amphibious capacity for when the Three Gorges Dam bursts. A week ago I would've never expected their dramatic rise in maritime naval power could be applied in response to an engineering disaster of their own making.

Gotta hand it to the Chinese, they're horrifyingly clever in adapting to changing circumstances even if said circumstances are of their own creation by and large. ;)
 
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Aaron Fox

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Here's the thing, quite a few of these articles ignore the logistical side of things. You can't have an Amphib force if that force's fuel supplies dwindle at incredibly high speeds and you're not getting much in terms of replenishment.

Right now, China is completely vulnerable as closing off a few straights and it'll be fighting Imperial Japan all over again... and the Chinese leadership knows this.
 

Es Arcanum

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Here's the thing, quite a few of these articles ignore the logistical side of things. You can't have an Amphib force if that force's fuel supplies dwindle at incredibly high speeds and you're not getting much in terms of replenishment.

Right now, China is completely vulnerable as closing off a few straights and it'll be fighting Imperial Japan all over again... and the Chinese leadership knows this.

So did the Japanese...😄
 

Zachowon

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and we csnt forget America will come brining the beating down. This time woth the Japanese
 

Knowledgeispower

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and we csnt forget America will come brining the beating down. This time woth the Japanese
Although at the rate things are currently going in Asia I wouldn't be surprised if Japan started to fully remilitarize and repealed the parts of their constitution that block them from declaring war and having offensive weapons sometime in the next decade or so.
 

Zachowon

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Although at the rate things are currently going in Asia I wouldn't be surprised if Japan started to fully remilitarize and repealed the parts of their constitution that block them from declaring war and having offensive weapons sometime in the next decade or so.
The treaty ran out last I checked and they are able to remilitize
 

Aaron Fox

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They abandoned the spirit of the constitution and treaties when they started building aircraft carriers, pardon helicopter destroyers (one is named Kaga). Now they are buying F-35s for them.
Mostly because China is erking back to the 'good old Imperial days' as a whole. The Opium Wars really damaged the Chinese collective psyche in that regard. While China knows that it can't try to make China grow larger now, they're preparing for it because the CCP is beholden to Chinese history, its people's collective desires, and the Mandate of Heaven concept...

... and that's the problem overall.

The thing is, to get a military effective enough to carry out those collective desires, they'll need three things: logistical capacity, money, and time.

For logistical capacity, that is comparatively easy of the bunch, as it pertains to things like bullets, spare parts, spare barrels, fuel, and the like... but the problem lies in that they've mostly been a 'green water' navy for quite some time and switching over to a 'blue water' navy is fraught with problems, as the USN learned when it kept trying to modernize on a (practically) literal shoestring budget that Congress loved to give the Navy until the Cold War became a thing.

Money is actually quite a problem in the long run, as that lovely outsourcing money is drying up as companies withdraw and go back home only to automate the shit out of them because at this point the human being is far too expensive to keep hiring anymore in the eyes of the stockholders who actually run a good portion of the companies these days. Since this is divided by all sorts of domestic and trade demands alongside the military, there is going to be a budget crunch pretty darn quick.

Time is the wildcard here and can be rather unpredictable...
 

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