Why Fantasy Elves are Great Archers

Aldarion

Neoreactionary Monarchist

To start with: most fantasy elves are based on Tolkien’s elves. But Tolkien’s elves were not just great archers. They were great everything, and during the Great War against Morgoth, we see elven spear/pike phalanxes, elven swordsmen, even elven axemen. However, there is a not-wholly-unjustified conception of elves as great archers, and Numenoreans – who take after the elves – also had great cohorts of archers armed with steel bows. So why is that?

First part of the answer is obviously Legolas. He is probably the most famous elf in fantasy, and he himself is an archer: he fights with a bow and daggers, but only uses daggers occasionally. Most of the time, he shoots orcs with arrows, and his greatest feats are all with the bow as well. Testis unus testis nullus applies here well, but nevertheless Legolas has had significant impact on image of the Elves in popular consciousness – just as Gimli and his axe were important in defining the dwarves.

However, it is false to say that Tolkien’s elves in generl are archers. Thematically, there is a split between the elves. Noldor, who are highly industrial, utilize swords heavily, but also use axes and pikes. In Silmarillion, there is hardly any mention of elven archery in large-scale battles: combat is nearly exclusively close-range, and primary weapons are swords and spears. Gil-galad, last High King of the Noldor, was famous for his prowess with a sper: Aeglos was his spear, and was in terms of symbolic importance a counterpart to Elendil’s sword Narsil. He also used a sword: “his sword was long, his lance was keen”; nowhere is bow mentioned.

Nandarin and some Sindarin elves who live in forests, such as those of Mirkwood and Lothlorien, utilize bows and spears heavily: at Battle of Five Armies, Mirkwood elves have 1 000 spearmen and several hundred archers. This makes sense: most common resource in forest is wood, while metal would be limited. Forest is also not conductive to set-peace battles, but it is very good environment for ambushes, which would also serve to increase reliance on bows as a weapon. Overall, it is indeed forest Elves who use bows and arrows as a primary weapon, and both major Elven kingdoms from Lord of the Rings – Lorien and Mirkwood – are forest ones. Noldor, who lived and fought in manner similar to advanced human civilizations such as Numenor, have long passed from power by the time of War for the Ring.

This split is another part of reason for why fantasy elves are mostly archers. Majority of people are only familiar with Lord of the Rings and The Hobbit. Elves using swords and spears mostly appear in The Silmarillion, and are predominantly Noldori. But by the time of the Lord of the Rings, their heyday is long past; it is Silvan elves who dominate. Being primarily woodland dwellers, they are much more likely to use arrows. Galadriel herself says as much: But do not think that only by singing amid the trees, nor even by the slender arrows of elven-bows, is this land of Lothlórien maintained and defended against its Enemy. Galadriel herself is Noldor, but the majority of inhabitants of Lothlorien are Silvan Elves, a subgroup of Nandor, of Telerin descent. They had never completed the Great Journey, and thus never arrived to Valinor and learned the arts of the Valar. Thus they maintained their simple lifestyle and did not rely heavily on advanced metallurgy and metal melee weapons in battle. This is most obvious with Mirkwood elves, who are even said to have suffered heaviest casualties of the Elves in the War against Sauron, due to their lack of armour. But elves of Lorien also rely heavily on bows and arrows. Noldor elves in the Second Age did use traditional Noldorin fighting styles and weapons, but of their kingdoms none survived as a political entity to the War of the Ring: Eregion was destroyed in the Second Age and its survivors formed Rivendell. But while Rivendell was still a military power at around the time of destruction of Angmar, by the time of the War of the Ring over a thousand years later, neither Lindon nor Rivendell could field a military force. Thus readers who are familiar only with the Hobbit and Lord of the Rings are, in truth, only familiar with Silvan way of war – which does indeed rely on bows and arrows.

Why is that is not directly stated. Celtic and Scandinavian folklore called the flint arrowheads that were found in the fields “elf-shot” and associated them with Elves. It is very likely that Tolkien was aware of this. Sidhe and Faerie are also vulnerable to iron, as are many if not all Scandinavian mythological creatures. As Tolkien-style elves may also draw on these even beyond Tolkien’s own inspiration, this would make majority of weapons and armour useless to them. Combined with fae’s nature as tricksters who rely on stealth, as well as relative lack of physical prowess, a lanky archer stereotype is not an illogical conclusion.

Beyond Tolkien and his undeniable influence, there are also thematic reasons for Elven reliance on archery. Elves are often (but not always!) presented as being close to nature, which is an aspect that draws from their Norse origins. This rather sharply limits their weapons options: forging metal requires wood to be turned into wooden coal, which loses 90% of it (5 – 12 tones of wood for 1 ton of charcoal 1), and then coal used to heat metal ore and finally metal itself so it could be forged. Compared to this, outfitting an army with bows and some hundreds of thousands of arrows is a minor expenditure of wood. Further, metal smithing is an industry: and as any other industry, it signifies distancing and alienation from nature. This is seen in Tolkien too, in contrast between industrial Noldor and natural Sindar elves.

Elves are also presented as isolationist. This would then extend to killing from distance, ambushing the enemy before they know what hit them – and missile weapons are very suited for such a role. Bow and arrow are also seen as elegant weapons, despite in reality being far more reliant on brute force than swords or spears.

Bows and other ranged weapons also make sense for elves in that, being immortal, elves have very low population replacement rate. Consequently, they have to minimize casualties – which is done by relying on ranged weapons. But in pre-gunpowder era – and even for a long time in gunpowder era – battles were typically won at close range, with melee weapons. Shields, and later armour, significantly limited the ability of archers to cause casualties. As such, bows only make sense if they are a) used in guerilla-style warfare and b) in circumstances where attacker can ambush and/or evade the enemy. In open field, archers require protection of pikemen. But for woodland-dwelling elves, focus on archery indeed makes sense: cover of trees and shrubbery facilitates hit-and-run attacks. At the same time, such approach maximizes the effect of experience which elves will have accumulated while reducing danger of losing precious and nearly-irreplaceable lives.

Lastly, most elves in fantasy are not derivative of Tolkien, but rather of Dungeons and Dragons. While that setting itself is derivative of Tolkien, it is still a role-playing game. A choice which is better than all others (e.g. Tolkien’s elves, who are no different from humans except being immortal) would destroy game balance. And as dwarves already had “heavy hitting melee fighter” base covered and humans “generalist” base, elves got stuffed, rather roughly, into the “ranger” base.

But idea also has problems. Elves are often presented as ectomorphic – physically weak, relatively fral, but quick and agile. War bows however require significant amount of strength – a trained archer will be physically large and strong. As such, fantasy elves should rely primarily on two-handed melee weapons: swords, spears, pollaxes and similar, with ranged weapons being primarily crossbows, javelins and slings. But there is a widespread idea among fantasy community (most of whom had never handled, let alone studied, medieval weaponry) that melee weapons require massive strength while ranged weapons do not. In reality, melee weapons – especially two-handed ones – rely far more on speed and agility than on strength. Of ranged weapons, bows rely primarily on strength, while slings and javelins rely on agility and leverage. Crossbows rely on strength as well but also have various accessories that allow drawing the crossbow more easily, such as windlass. This would actually make them rather suitable as a weapon for elves, if it weren’t for the fact that crossbows are comparatively highly technological – which then results in them being given to dwarves, who can use bows just fine.

Visual acuity, which is often presented as a reason for elves to use bows, would not help with achieving accuracy. Human eye can see a man-sized shape at over a kilometre, and even when shooting at particular parts of body, ability of archer to hit them is still determined primarily by lack of accuracy in the weapon itself. Neither bow nor arrows could be manufactured with precision required for such long-range shots, even assuming they could magically reach it. And they could not. Even artillery (e.g. Roman ballistae) never shot bolts at such distances, with maximum range being at cca 500 – 600 meters. Handheld bows with military arrows never went beyond 300 meters, and typically were at 100 – 200 meters range, and that only against area targets.

Overall idea of elves as archers in Lord of the Rings actually works: Tolkien’s elves are not physically weaker (or stronger) than humans, and not all elves are archers. Those that are have technological and cultural reasons for being so. But as with so many other ideas from Tolkien’s legendarium, later fantasy authors took the idea and ran with it, without actually understanding how and why it works.
 

Bear Ribs

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I'm bugged that they claim Elves in DnD are shoehorned into being archers. They aren't, they also gain proficiency automatically with longswords (and rapiers in 3.5) and their favored class is usually wizard (sorcerer/cleric for Drow), not ranger. That makes me fairly suspicious of the rest of his claims that I don't know about off the top of my head.

Also it's a bit rude to copy and paste somebody's entire article. A lot of people are counting on views for advertising funding and/or just attention for their work and you deprive them of that by taking the whole thing instead of just a teaser paragraph or two and link.
 

Aldarion

Neoreactionary Monarchist
I'm bugged that they claim Elves in DnD are shoehorned into being archers. They aren't, they also gain proficiency automatically with longswords (and rapiers in 3.5) and their favored class is usually wizard (sorcerer/cleric for Drow), not ranger. That makes me fairly suspicious of the rest of his claims that I don't know about off the top of my head.

Also it's a bit rude to copy and paste somebody's entire article. A lot of people are counting on views for advertising funding and/or just attention for their work and you deprive them of that by taking the whole thing instead of just a teaser paragraph or two and link.

It is my own. And while I have never played Dungeons and Dragons, I did check things where possible. If you think it wrong, feel free to correct me, but from what I have found, Elves are geared towards being archers.

 

Bear Ribs

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Well if it's your own article can't complain about the post then, objection withdrawn.

The DnDBeyond article isn't as indicative as perhaps you're thinking. Ranger lists human first which makes sense, since the original Ranger was Strider AKA Aragorn and humans tend to get pushed into Ranger a lot in DnD. Look at the other classes and they all have similar blurbs, but the magical classes like Wizard and Warlock list Elf as their first race.


 

Aldarion

Neoreactionary Monarchist
Well if it's your own article can't complain about the post then, objection withdrawn.

The DnDBeyond article isn't as indicative as perhaps you're thinking. Ranger lists human first which makes sense, since the original Ranger was Strider AKA Aragorn and humans tend to get pushed into Ranger a lot in DnD. Look at the other classes and they all have similar blurbs, but the magical classes like Wizard and Warlock list Elf as their first race.



Right, thanks.

Question then is, why are DnD elves stereotyped as archers? I mean, Legolas is an obvious answer for Tolkien, but every time I tried searching for the answer beyond Legolas, I found either nothing or the claim that it happened because of Dungeons and Dragons. Which then means that DnD elves themselves got stereotyped as archers, despite not being such in-game. Unless elves are uniquely suited to being archers in DnD, which leads to them being pushed into that role - which would still count as stereotyping despite archery class not being their sole build. Also, it would appear that wood elves specifically are a ranger / archer class, while high elves are a mage class... which, since question is "why fantasy elves are great archers" still fits, especially since the other class fantasy elves are stereotyped as is mages - which fits with DnD model.

And yeah, I am planning on monetizing the blog sometime down the line, but it is not monetized as of right now; I don't have the views just yet to make it profitable.
 

Bear Ribs

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Right, thanks.

Question then is, why are DnD elves stereotyped as archers? I mean, Legolas is an obvious answer for Tolkien, but every time I tried searching for the answer beyond Legolas, I found either nothing or the claim that it happened because of Dungeons and Dragons. Which then means that DnD elves themselves got stereotyped as archers, despite not being such in-game.
They're not though? That's my point, DnD stereotypes elves as primary casters, there's almost no elven archers in the game. Just look at the iconic elf:

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You'll notice the distinct lack of a bow compared with the scroll of magic and some sort of spell being cast. Even the single most famous Elf Ranger, Drizzt Do'Urden, never touches a bow but instead dual-wields scimitars.

For stereotyped elven archers I'd say Warcraft is a more likely culprit, in Warcraft II elves were the primary ranged unit of the Alliance (Units were quite limited so there were only human melee fighters and wizards, elven archers, and dwarven demolitionists). Blood Elf and High Elf archers were involved in the Expansion pack. In Warcraft III Night Elf archers were the primary ranged unit. Look at the WoW listing for "Archer" and you find an array of elf pictures with the extreme majority of archers being elves in every part of the setting.


For the why I'd say Warcraft's origins as a strategy game were to blame. Due to the old nature of RTS (it's over 25 years old) sprites were limited and there were very limited numbers of units, thus all archers were elven archers, all knights were human knights, all magi were ogre magi, etc. Once this stereotype was put into place I'd say it got fairly entrenched given how ubiquitous Warcraft became, first being the strategy game and later being the MMORPG.
 

Husky_Khan

The Dog Whistler... I mean Whisperer.
Founder
Elves being stereotyped as Archers is more of a general fantasy trope then anything in ADnD I feel. As was stated in the article, Elves were archers in the Tolkien verse and that was what inspired a great deal of Dungeons and Dragons and even though Dungeons and Dragons lore doesn't "shoehorn" elves into archers, there's still a strong correlation between the two. And I think it has more to do with the fanbase that plays ADnD then anything too official.

There are a lot of Elvens archers in DnD lore of course. IIRC the 'Archer' and "Scout' NPC artwork in 5th Edition DnD illustrates an Elven character. In the Dalelands of the Forgotten Realms setting, there are Elven archer units and Elves doing Wood Elf archery things. In the Forgotten Realms Campaign Setting guide there's lore blurbs about Elven archery and the like, including how Daggerdale IIRC sent a company of its elite Elven Archers (the Dalelands sent large numbers of archers who were mostly Human) on the Crusade against the Tuigan Horde. But yes, Elves are also celebrated just as much as magic users and sword fighters (like with the Bladesinger specialization in 2nd Edition DnD).

I do think that Elves have a strong predilection for being Rangers as well in AdnD both in game lore and otherwise. There's a lot of crossover between the ability scores of Wisdom and Dexterity of the Elves and the use of the ranger classes. Plus the most famous Ranger of ADnD history, Drizzt Do'Urden is an Elf (admittedly a Drow Elf) and a ranger. Though while he also does use a bow on occasion, he's obviously more famous for his swordwork (and a big emphasis of Salvatores work is how Elves can spend decades or centuries mastering their swordplay). The Archer of the Heroes of Mithral Hall isn't Drizzt, but Catti-Brie whose a very Human fighter class raised by Dwarfs no less.

But Rangers will always have a strong association with Elves I feel. This is partly because while Aragorn was Human, he was also raised by snooty Elves. Plus along with the affinity for the forest, wildlife empathy and a plethora of other class features and lore bits, Elves (and Half Elves) will be associated with Rangers for a long time.

Warcraft, Warhammer Fantasy and countless independent fantasy settings have undoubtedly solidified and reinforced the Elves are Archers trope pretty strongly though. And it continues on with things like Dragon Age and the like as well. At least in Warhammer Fantasy I don't think Elves are generally considered weaker physically then Humans however, unlike in ADnD where despite a general strength inferiority, Elves are still renowned for their archery (if not by lore then fandom).
 

ShieldWife

Marchioness
Elves as they have come to be seen, have kind of this feminine vibe about them. Male elves are often portrayed in a more feminine or androgynous way. Elves are lithe, graceful, physically weaker, and so on. Tolkien likely wouldn’t have seen them this way, it may be a D&Dism but it’s also become part of how we imagine elves in a number of ways.

And of course in fantasy, women are often associated with bows. This even goes back to some depictions of Amazons, but more recently often if you see a female warrior in a fantasy setting, she will be highly dexterous and an archer - just like an elf. Game of Thrones subverted this with Arya being more of a fencer, which is actually a more realistic way of a high dexterity low strength person fighting.

So as we basically all know now, a war bow is more of a strength weapon. That doesn’t mean that dexterity isn’t helpful with it, but if you’re not strong enough to use it then you’re dexterity isn’t going to even matter. Elves being long lived but slow to reproduce might lead t to thinking that ranged combat is better, that idea also applies to female warriors because you don’t want them to die because it limits your community’s population growth. Once we get to medieval warfare, population growth concerns may actually matter less, because only a relatively small percentage of the population even goes to the battlefield.

Elves as wilderness experts, who use stealth and may be hunters as well as warriors, might lead us to the bow. A crossbow might be the better option as you mention. A windlass crossbow might allow them to use their dexterity in place of strength to reload. It can be used to hunt, can utilize their good hand-eye coordination for deadly aiming, allows them to maintain their range.

I’ve often had this though of elves being horse crossbowmen. Ride up to the enemy on their high quality elven steeds, shoot their quarrel at the enemy, then ride away as they use their windlass to reload. I’m not familiar with any historical armies that did this, though it’s obviously been done with bows, javelins, and even with pistols.

I could still see elves using bows, I guess it’s so iconic at this point that it’s hard for me to break away from the concept. They could just use bows with lighter draw weights than humans, but those lighter bows could be shot more accurately and the incredible dexterity and hand-eye coordination of the elves could let them hit enemies where they are less heavily armored. This could particularly be true if we have elves living in dense forests and not fighting on an open battlefield.

It seems like fencing should be an elven thing. It’s a way of fighting that is so focused on dexterity with minimal strength requirements, it seems very natural. I could see fencing-like fighting styles extending to other weapons too - like long swords (not to be confused with arming swords) or spears. An elf with a spear may be able to use an almost fencing style to fighting, lunging in with a feint or disengage to stab at unarmored areas, trying to stay out of range of a slower possibly stronger enemy.

Shad Brooks, the YouTuber Shadiversity, did a really interesting series on different weapons for fantasy races.

Though ultimately, a fantasy race may not use weapons or fighting styles that are optimized only for their biology. Of course, that will be a factor, but there are also economic, logistic, cultural, and political reasons for certain weapons, armors, or fighting styles to be used or not.

Edit: here are some of Shad’s videos on the topic.





 
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ShadowArxxy

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Comrade
Mounted crossbows are extremely uncommon in fantasy, but do have a historical basis; they were commonly used in Central Europe up into Scandinavia and the Baltic states.

That said, crossbows really go against the "sleek, minimalistic, elegant, and artsy" vibe that fantasy elves have.
 

Aldarion

Neoreactionary Monarchist
I’ve often had this though of elves being horse crossbowmen. Ride up to the enemy on their high quality elven steeds, shoot their quarrel at the enemy, then ride away as they use their windlass to reload. I’m not familiar with any historical armies that did this, though it’s obviously been done with bows, javelins, and even with pistols.

Mounted crossbowmen who shot crossbows from horseback were a thing in Hungary. I do not think they used windlass crossbows, however.
 
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Elves in Tolkien are different, and have abilities that are as vague as they are quite useful.

For example, Legolas could walk on the snow, when the party was going over Caladras and everyone else was sinking deep into it. The elves are able to use “magic” which in Tolkien means, basically...a sort of working with the essence of the world, through your fea.

I’d basically say, elves are connected to the world in a mystical way, and are physically different than humans because of this, therefore they can do things that bare physics says they cannot.

Legolas can see great distances in the books, far more than just the “their taking the hobbit’s to Isengard”, line.
 

Lord Sovereign

The resident Britbong
Elves, being mostly residents of the deep forests of Europe in mythology, would likely favour the bow and arrow in their hunts and ambushes. Perhaps the more "lithe" form can be attributed to a need to navigate a shit ton of trees very quickly?

As for the "elf-shot" thing, I may have said before, but there is a great theory about that being a faint memory of a prehistoric people our ancestors wiped out. Given the coming of the metal working Yamnaya about four and half thousand years ago, and the steep decline of Neolithic populations (especially in Britain) there may be some credibility to that.
 

Guncannon

Pessimistic Pilot
I'm bugged that they claim Elves in DnD are shoehorned into being archers. They aren't, they also gain proficiency automatically with longswords (and rapiers in 3.5) and their favored class is usually wizard (sorcerer/cleric for Drow), not ranger.
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