PsihoKekec
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I see Bowser switched from kidnaping overprivileged white females to iconoclasm. Probably didn't want to get metooed.
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I see Bowser switched from kidnaping overprivileged white females to iconoclasm. Probably didn't want to get metooed.
Jesus fucking Christ, these people need to be removed from any position of power/authority -- and I say this as a non-American!
Arch Dornan
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Pedofornia with a bill to lower the penalties for the committed offense?
Why am I not surprised.
gral
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The guy who proposed this law sure looks like he'll benefit from it in the future...
hyperspacewizard
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You know it always amazes me how two faced these people can get.
Think of the children.
Pedos walk free
Think of the children
Let’s drug all our kids
Think of the children
Abortions after birth
Etc etc
Like they obviously give exactly negative shits about kids like this is the kind of stuff that actually makes me sick to my stomach
Think of the children.
Pedos walk free
Think of the children
Let’s drug all our kids
Think of the children
Abortions after birth
Etc etc
Like they obviously give exactly negative shits about kids like this is the kind of stuff that actually makes me sick to my stomach
gral
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You know that quote they love to say, about patriotism being the last refuge of the scoundrel? Whether they are misapplying the quote or not, it's not true anymore. The last refuge of the scoundrel nowadays is 'the children'.
to be fair they said they love children they didn't say how they loved children.
Context matters: there's a massive difference between an age-gap relationship with those in the same generation and a pedo situation, and a lot of Americans don't seem to view that (heck, I saw an American woman hysterically call a bloke a pedo in a YouTube comments section because his girlfriend was seventeen and he was nineteen! I mean, c'mon!).
Anyway, the main issue is that this law is way, way too broad. It's basically an excuse for pedo's to get away with shit, so long as their 'partners' say "yes, I did this willingly" (you can obviously see the flaw there!).
For example, there's a massive difference between an eleven year old "willingly" having sex with someone who's nineteen or twenty-one (yeah, that's the Big P) and a fifteen/sixteen/seventeen year old having willing sex with their eighteen, nineteen, or even twenty year old partner (in that order). From what I understand, this law is so bloody vague it covers both!
In the UK, a sixteen year old having a boyfriend/girlfriend (the former more common) that's likely nineteen to twenty-one is pretty normal. One of my best-friends at sixteen was dating an eighteen year old, who was taking six-form at our high-school (guy was a douche, but that's a personal dislike of his character).
Perhaps it's because the college age/leaving age for high-school for us was sixteen until very recently, but our social attitudes are two years ahead of Americans (we generally see sixteen year olds as you do eighteen year olds, for example).
I mean, I've had friends who've had dating prospects that cross the minor/adult line Americans are so paranoid of (mostly in the sixteen to eighteen year old range, though another of my best-friends met her future husband when she was seventeen and he, like twenty-one? They've been happily married for over ten years now, and they have numerous kids).
Another one of my friends, who was sixteen, had a twenty-one year old cough friend cough: no-one batted an eye at the thought of their dating, so long as it was consensual. Hell, I was eighteen at the time and even I was chatting her up!
So, yeah. Context matters, generally Americans don't see or understand context in these matters (it doesn't help that a lot of your laws are utterly archaic and something straight from the Middle-fucking-East: "Caught urinating in an alley when drunk? Oh, your cock is out! You're a sex-offender! Onto the Registry you go!"), and this law is just too vague/easily exploited by actual pedo's... which, given the State, might've been intentional.
Anyway, the main issue is that this law is way, way too broad. It's basically an excuse for pedo's to get away with shit, so long as their 'partners' say "yes, I did this willingly" (you can obviously see the flaw there!).
For example, there's a massive difference between an eleven year old "willingly" having sex with someone who's nineteen or twenty-one (yeah, that's the Big P) and a fifteen/sixteen/seventeen year old having willing sex with their eighteen, nineteen, or even twenty year old partner (in that order). From what I understand, this law is so bloody vague it covers both!
In the UK, a sixteen year old having a boyfriend/girlfriend (the former more common) that's likely nineteen to twenty-one is pretty normal. One of my best-friends at sixteen was dating an eighteen year old, who was taking six-form at our high-school (guy was a douche, but that's a personal dislike of his character).
Perhaps it's because the college age/leaving age for high-school for us was sixteen until very recently, but our social attitudes are two years ahead of Americans (we generally see sixteen year olds as you do eighteen year olds, for example).
I mean, I've had friends who've had dating prospects that cross the minor/adult line Americans are so paranoid of (mostly in the sixteen to eighteen year old range, though another of my best-friends met her future husband when she was seventeen and he, like twenty-one? They've been happily married for over ten years now, and they have numerous kids).
Another one of my friends, who was sixteen, had a twenty-one year old cough friend cough: no-one batted an eye at the thought of their dating, so long as it was consensual. Hell, I was eighteen at the time and even I was chatting her up!
So, yeah. Context matters, generally Americans don't see or understand context in these matters (it doesn't help that a lot of your laws are utterly archaic and something straight from the Middle-fucking-East: "Caught urinating in an alley when drunk? Oh, your cock is out! You're a sex-offender! Onto the Registry you go!"), and this law is just too vague/easily exploited by actual pedo's... which, given the State, might've been intentional.
Arch Dornan
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I'm glad my child years was relatively normal. Once my potty and bath training was complete I only touched myself.
Arch Dornan
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Some other missed content.
Doomsought
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That isn't an American thing, that is a Senator thing. The political class are just as different from normal people at this point as the aristocracy in any other country.
Ypu only get on the list for doing that near a school.
I think because most Americans think 18 is the age one should become an adult (except drinking and smoking apperently) so anything before is often scrutinized
One of my closest friends right after she turned 16 (age of consent in the state I am from) was basically taken advantage of by her bf at the time for sex. Have hated the guy to this day
Arch Dornan
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I consider it a modern concept but a very justified one like how your closest friend got taken advantage of.
It is to prevent minors being taken advantage of. It's not perfect but there's a good reason for its strictness.
The whole dating thing is broken because dating is not explicitly a step on the way to marriage. Sex disconnected from family and children I think is one of the things making people crazy, which these age rules are very blunt instruments to try and fix an underlying issue that people aren't really willing to try and fix.
A 15 year old marrying a 20 year old is I think less questionable and easier to police on a case by case when its known that the guy is supposed to be dating with the aim of marrying the person he's dating within a year, maybe two. Its much more concerning when you have a 15 year old moving in with a 20 year old who is making no commitment to the girl, and can leave her at any moment.
Now, a 15 year old running off to marry so young also has its problems, but it at least sets some bounds of what's actually expected, including an explicit understanding that the 20 year old has an understanding to take care of and support the 15 year old.
Meanwhile, casual teenage sex sets no real boundaries to the relationship, making it virtually impossible to police and thus requires attempts to keep teens separate from older people who still have signifigantly more power in such a relationship without any of the bounds of persuing an actual relationship.
A 15 year old marrying a 20 year old is I think less questionable and easier to police on a case by case when its known that the guy is supposed to be dating with the aim of marrying the person he's dating within a year, maybe two. Its much more concerning when you have a 15 year old moving in with a 20 year old who is making no commitment to the girl, and can leave her at any moment.
Now, a 15 year old running off to marry so young also has its problems, but it at least sets some bounds of what's actually expected, including an explicit understanding that the 20 year old has an understanding to take care of and support the 15 year old.
Meanwhile, casual teenage sex sets no real boundaries to the relationship, making it virtually impossible to police and thus requires attempts to keep teens separate from older people who still have signifigantly more power in such a relationship without any of the bounds of persuing an actual relationship.
Arch Dornan
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The topic is quite worth a long discussion. Maybe a thread can be opened to talk about it in the commentary section.
Yinko
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Got to be honest, I was originally being optimistic and didn't think this would go though.
I have to wonder if there are any caveats to this, because if taken at face value it's pretty horrifying. For instance, unless I am mistaken, most places have a sort of lower limit for how young someone can be and still be said to consent with another minor. If that is still in place then this is a lot less horrifying than if it's a blanket ruling. It's the difference between a 25yo having sex with a 15yo and an 18yo having sex with an 8yo. If the former, then it would be closer to an extension to the current anti-statitory rape laws which tend to forgive so long as the individuals are within 6 months of one another, if the latter then... I forsee a lot of homeschooling in California's future.
Floridaman
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It’s ok with the tax base collapsing in California they can’t afford schools anyway.
It's a cultural thing, from what I've seen: numerous times have I seen an American go hysterical at anything remotely to do with this topic, and that includes age-gaps of just a few years.
Let's put it this way: by their views (and some American laws), a huge swath of the UK populations could be considered sex offenders under those laws/views.
Hell, someone pissing in an alley on a night out is a common occurrence to the point where the police just hand them a mop and sponge to clean it up.
Without clicking on that video, that still image of social-media companies being in the literal grip of communist iconography is strangely apt.