Who else dreads this year?

[Strigan44]

so far the economy is good,

Mostly the same as it was during Obama’s presidency, and Trump’s actions have only caused it to decline.

he has the benefit of already being a known quantity,

So does most of the Democratic candidates.

and the most important factor the democrats are in a purity death spiral and are purging moderates like crazy

Compared to the Republicans, who couldn’t wait 24 hours after McCain’s death to call him a RINO? Dream on.

and you have antifa attacking journalists and getting more crazy.

Is this about Andy Ngo and his magically regenerating head injury?

and Antifa attacks more people and I strongly suspect they will earn a spot on an official terrorist list soon.

ah yes, Tim “I’m a Centrist but never criticize the right wing” Pool. What a reliable source.

Meanwhile in reality, the Proud Boys and their lackeys have violently assaulted peaceful protesters many times before (in one case leaving a woman with a fractured spine) while the police have done virtually nothing to stop it, often actively defending them at times. Antifa is only doing what the authorities have failed to do before, and until Portland actually takes action against the Proud Boys they won’t stand down.

 

[Cherico]

Mostly the same as it was during Obama’s presidency, and Trump’s actions have only caused it to decline.

So does most of the Democratic candidates.

Compared to the Republicans, who couldn’t wait 24 hours after McCain’s death to call him a RINO? Dream on.

Is this about Andy Ngo and his magically regenerating head injury?

ah yes, Tim “I’m a Centrist but never criticize the right wing” Pool. What a reliable source.

Meanwhile in reality, the Proud Boys and their lackeys have violently assaulted peaceful protesters many times before (in one case leaving a woman with a fractured spine) while the police have done virtually nothing to stop it, often actively defending them at times. Antifa is only doing what the authorities have failed to do before, and until Portland actually takes action against the Proud Boys they won’t stand down.

andy no was put into the hospital by said head injury this is an established fact, Antifa is a terrorist organization they attack people for their poltical beliefs, they attack people for just being around the area, and they have targeted reporters for assault. They have thus far attempted to firebomb federal ice facilities at least once.

These are people who have gone crazy and are only getting crazier with time, if you are a member get out now. Because they have only gotten worse and crossed more and more lines and they show no signs of getting any better.

 

[Name Corrupted by Chaos]

andy no was put into the hospital by said head injury this is an established fact, Antifa is a terrorist organization they attack people for their poltical beliefs, they attack people for just being around the area, and they have targeted reporters for assault. They have thus far attempted to firebomb federal ice facilities at least once.

These are people who have gone crazy and are only getting crazier with time, if you are a member get out now. Because they have only gotten worse and crossed more and more lines and they show no signs of getting any better.

Wtf, Antifa can't be a terrorist organization because it isn't even an organization, it's a bunch of people organizing using social media under the name Antifa to do things ranging from beating people up to providing medical assistance in order to make sure that nobody dies or gets permanently injured while expressing their right to freedom of assembly to people who don't even show up to protests and counter protests and instead produce propaganda and news articles. There's no organization there to actually target dude.

 

[Greengrass]

Theres also the part where Andy Ngo constantly and provably lies.

 

[Cherico]

Wtf, Antifa can't be a terrorist organization because it isn't even an organization, it's a bunch of people organizing using social media under the name Antifa to do things ranging from beating people up to providing medical assistance in order to make sure that nobody dies or gets permanently injured while expressing their right to freedom of assembly to people who don't even show up to protests and counter protests and instead produce propaganda and news articles. There's no organization there to actually target dude.

there is, there are actual branded cells of Antifa complete with merchandise, your statement is like we cant taget gangs because theres no organization there. Ideally you go after the worst cells and proscute them for their crimes but if a major attack happens then there will be a general purge of the entire organization.

I think its only a matter of time before they commit a major attack that cant be glossed over, covered up or ignored.

 

[Name Corrupted by Chaos]

there is, there are actual branded cells of Antifa complete with merchandise, your statement is like we cant taget gangs because theres no organization there. Ideally you go after the worst cells and proscute them for their crimes but if a major attack happens then there will be a general purge of the entire organization.

I think its only a matter of time before they commit a major attack that cant be glossed over, covered up or ignored.

You're going to be waiting a long, long time then.

 

[Terthna]

there is, there are actual branded cells of Antifa complete with merchandise, your statement is like we cant taget gangs because theres no organization there. Ideally you go after the worst cells and proscute them for their crimes but if a major attack happens then there will be a general purge of the entire organization.

I think its only a matter of time before they commit a major attack that cant be glossed over, covered up or ignored.

Sadly, one man's terrorist is another man's hero; and if Isis can manage to attract defenders of their cause and methods, Antifa will have no trouble continuing to find support, no matter what atrocities they end up inflicting on people. They'll just refuse to accept that they're doing anything wrong, or they'll find some way to rationalize why what they're doing isn't wrong.

 

[Cherico]

Theres also the part where Andy Ngo constantly and provably lies.

None of that is conclusive at all mat didn't show any proof that andy wasn't there and Andy has photos on his side not words, second photo just shows him standing there watching people which is some thing reporters do.

None of this is conclusive evidence at all and is at best




meanwhile we have actual video of andy being assaulted, we have medical records that show he was assaulted.

Im going to be honest man, if your in Antifa get out now.

Put aside your hate for me, and listen to me this stuff is getting worse, they are getting more radical and its only a matter of time until there is a crack down and you do not want to be there when it happens.

if you in Antifa get out now, this isn't an insult this comes from a place of deep concern I am trying to keep you out of prison and keep you from getting killed if your in it, get out if your not keep your distance.

 

[FriedCFour]

Wtf, Antifa can't be a terrorist organization because it isn't even an organization, it's a bunch of people organizing using social media under the name Antifa to do things ranging from beating people up to providing medical assistance in order to make sure that nobody dies or gets permanently injured while expressing their right to freedom of assembly to people who don't even show up to protests and counter protests and instead produce propaganda and news articles. There's no organization there to actually target dude.

They use the same tactics as the modern KKK, thats true. The KKK cannot be said to be a terrorist organization because there is no one KKK anymore. Its a bunch of likeminded groups spread across the US. However, JBGC, Redneck Revolt, virtually all antifa organizations proudly support terrorism. We saw that with the attack on the ICE facility. So you are right. Antifa is not a terrorist organization. Its a descriptor of a multitude of terrorist organizations and supporters of terror.

 

[Greengrass]

Here's an article with the full video (along with a number of other videos showing Ngo's lies).

Far-right "journalist" Andy Ngo exposed as pals with hate group

Ngo was embraced by Ted Cruz and interviewed by Jake Tapper. But maybe he was just an alt-right troll all along

www.salon.com

 

[FriedCFour]

Here's an article with the full video (along with a number of other videos showing Ngo's lies).

Far-right "journalist" Andy Ngo exposed as pals with hate group

Ngo was embraced by Ted Cruz and interviewed by Jake Tapper. But maybe he was just an alt-right troll all along

www.salon.com

Regardless of whether or not he is lying you dont need his word. You can see video of him being attacked and assaulted. Its utterly undeniable here. If he supports terror attacks then hes only just as bad as Shawn King and W. Kamua Bell.

 

[Greengrass]

Regardless of whether or not he is lying you dont need his word. You can see video of him being attacked and assaulted. Its utterly undeniable here. If he supports terror attacks then hes only just as bad as Shawn King and W. Kamua Bell.

You're relying on the evidence of a short video clip that doesn't show what happened before handed, released by someone who's been proven to lie by misleadingly editing short clips to remove what happened beforehand. It would entirely fit with what Andy has been proven to have done for him to have provoked the attack.

 

[FriedCFour]

You're relying on the evidence of a short video clip that doesn't show what happened before handed, released by someone who's been proven to lie by misleadingly editing short clips to remove what happened beforehand. It would entirely fit with what Andy has been proven to have done for him to have provoked the attack.

There is virtually nothing possible for Andy to have done to have justified the attacks against him. As in, no court of law would ever rule that as self defense. You dont get to hit and assault guys as they walk away from you, we literally see an entire fucking crowd try and get their licks in on him even as he tries to leave.

Just imagine trying to justify that in court "your honor, that one small Asian man and his camera and bad words and opinions were threatening all 37 of us, so we needed to egg him, hit him, kick him, spray him with shit even as he walked away from us."

 

[Hlaalu Agent]

You're relying on the evidence of a short video clip that doesn't show what happened before handed, released by someone who's been proven to lie by misleadingly editing short clips to remove what happened beforehand. It would entirely fit with what Andy has been proven to have done for him to have provoked the attack.

Provoked the attack, what the actual .... So are you saying it is alright to beat someone savagely as a mob, with weapons and without mercy, because they "provoked" you?

 

[Greengrass]

Provoked the attack, what the actual .... So are you saying it is alright to beat someone savagely as a mob, with weapons and without mercy, because they "provoked" you?

You'll have to ask Andy Ngo, since he's the one on camera laughing along with Patriot Prayer as they plan their attack.

 

[FriedCFour]

You'll have to ask Andy Ngo, since he's the one laughing along with Patriot Prayer as they plan their attack.

You dont get to weasel out like that. Was the attack against Ngo justified?

 

[Greengrass]

You dont get to weasel out like that. Was the attack against Ngo justified?

I never claimed it was justified, I said it could have been provoked.

 

[FriedCFour]

I never claimed it was justified, I said it could have been provoked.

Could patriot prayer be said to be provoked? After all they certainly seemed to have been attacked a lot.

 

[Greengrass]

Could patriot prayer be said to be provoked? After all they certainly seemed to have been attacked a lot.

I mean, you can watch the video of them planning their attack, so you can tell me.

Edit: also andy wasn't attacked with weapons as far as I can tell, unless you count eggs and silly string.

 

[Hlaalu Agent]

I never claimed it was justified, I said it could have been provoked.

And how does being provoked justify a mob beating of a journalist and the theft of his property?