Agent23
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Bullshit.It wasn't a random Double Agent, it was a Colonel in the French Clandestine Services who had killed two British Agents prior and was one of SPECTRE's top agents. And it wasn't "random smuggling of heroin" it was a Drug Cartel that was fomenting a Revolution in Mexico. You know... an operational equivalent to say the plots of literally both Timothy Dalton movies later on. Or You Only Live Twice with Roger Moore. Downplay it all you want, it is upon you to prove your assertion that James Bond only engages in ONE major operation a year when that's been shown to be not the case repeatedly on film. I suppose you consider either Dr. No or From Russia With Love not a major operation since they took part less then a year apart as well?
Yes and SPECTRE wouldn't be prohibited by that. They're repeatedly illustrated and portrayed as every bit equal to their Soviet and American power blocs when it comes to clandestine operations. The main plot in Thunderball only required the infiltration of one agent into the Vulcan Bomber Crew. Everything else you stated isn't prohibitively expensive and I already pointed out in earlier posts in this very thread.
As you stated, I see no reason to arbitrarily limit the focus to the TOS three year mission, especially after you've consistently argued that non-canon James Bond films should be included repeatedly, ignored Bond in universe timelines, want to only include IMDB lists of Bond Girls or Wikipedia lists of Ian Fleming novel Bond Girls and made every other attempt to inflate the numbers. I am merely using the metrics you brought forth for James Bond and applying it to William Shatner's Kirk.
If you find that to be unfair, then simply be consistent with your metrics for both characters.
Are we talking only about Sean Connery's Bond films in the Eon Film Continuity, which if so, is six to nine years dependent. If you want to throw in a bunch of stuff from the novels and remakes/reboots and the like, then I don't see any reason not to apply a far less stringent metric to William Shatner's James T. Kirk. So twenty eight to twenty nine years instead of three.
Wikipedia Isn't More Canon than the Films themselves. I literally laid out the fifteen (to eighteen) romances that Sean Connery James Bond had in his films. Feel free to DISPUTE what I literally saw on the films themselves but using lists from IMDB and Wikipedia and proclaiming these are all of Bond's Romantic conquests is simply farcical.
Furthermore the OP states Sean Connery Bond. Not the Ian Fleming novel James Bond. They are completely different continuities. You are being highly inconsistent in regards to what sources you are using for Bonds romances, referencing all of the Bond films, then the Sean Connery Bond films and using a list from IMDB and now posting up a list from Wikipedia showing the Ian Fleming Novel Bond Girls... which has a completely different chronology when it comes to release dates from the films.
Are we no longer disputing the chronology of the films now? We are doing to use the far more condensed novel releases... and reference them in regards to Sean Connery James Bond? You do realize that in over half of those Novels you referenced from Wikipedia that Sean Connery didn't even portray any of those James Bond characters in the film adaptions. Casino Royale wasn't adapted until 2006 by Daniel Craig (excluding a non-canonical film adaption in the fifties) and then Quantum of Solace was the immediate sequel to that, Live and Let Die, Moonraker, Octopussy, A View To A Kill, The Man With the Golden Gun, & For Your Eyes Only are all Roger Moore portraying James Bond. And of course The Living Daylights had Bond portrayed by Timothy Dalton and On Her Majesty's Secret Service had Bond portrayed by George Lazenby.
So what we have so far deduced...
Using Agent23's chronological metric for Bond, we have either six years or nine years. Six years if we include the time period between Dr. No (1962) and You Only Live Twice (1967) but adding the year that Connery's film Diamonds Are Forever (1971) was released. In between 1967 and 1971 George Lazenby starred as Bond in 1969's On Her Majesty's Secret Service. A more unfair metric IMHO would be a nine year one and count all the years between 1962's Dr. No release and 1971's Diamonds Are Forever. Regardless in that time we have eighteen conquests (we'll use eighteen since you are using probables for Kirk and curiously not offering the same courtesy for Bond for some inexplicable reason) we get the ratio of:
2 to 3 per annum.
EVEN if we permit the twenty one years between Dr. No and Never Say Never Again even though the latter is obviously non-canon, we get a ratio for Bond of:
.857 per annum!
And this isn't even including the women Bond banged in Never Say Never Again because they've been excluded mention for some reason? Just FYI Bond did bang... IIRC... four women in Never Say Never Again including Fatima Blush (whose an expy for a Thunderball character), Nurse Patrice Fearing (again literally the same character from Thunderball but lets keep assuming its the same timeline lol) and Kim Basinger. Oh... and a lady he romanced in the Bahamas that fished him out of the water. So actually it'd be 22 romances and thus pushing Connery's per annum romances to...
1.047 per annum!
If we use the Ian Fleming Novel Romances... based off a list Agent23 found on Wikipedia we get...
1.9 per annum.
For Kirk Sadly for the chronological number based on release date of 28 years with seven partners we get...
.25 per annum.
But using in-universe time we have...
.241 per annum which is sadly even worse.
If we are just using Connery bond I do not see any reason why the chronological order I proposed does not work.
