Red_Tornado
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Kirk played by William Shatner .James Bond played by Sean Connery.?
Who could get the most ladies?captain kirk or 007
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Bear Ribs
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The actual number of ladies Kirk got with is mostly memetic, fueled in large part by how many of them were minorities, robots, or aliens which was startling and transgressive for TV at the time. He didn't actually take that many lovers over the course of the show.
Somebody went and actually compiled a list of all of them, in total:
Definite sexual intimacy: 2
Near-certain intimacy: 5
Indeterminate: 8
Kissing but definitely no sex: 12
I don't have as detailed a list for Connery-Only Bond, most lists include every incarnation of 007. A cursory check on my own of his movies suggests Definite Intimacy around 7, and near-certain around 4 with kissing another 3.
So overall I'd say Bond probably takes it, with a lot fewer kisses but more actual sex. That's unless Kirk gets extra credit for variety because I'm not aware of Bond ever making it with a robot or alien.
Somebody went and actually compiled a list of all of them, in total:
Definite sexual intimacy: 2
Near-certain intimacy: 5
Indeterminate: 8
Kissing but definitely no sex: 12
I don't have as detailed a list for Connery-Only Bond, most lists include every incarnation of 007. A cursory check on my own of his movies suggests Definite Intimacy around 7, and near-certain around 4 with kissing another 3.
So overall I'd say Bond probably takes it, with a lot fewer kisses but more actual sex. That's unless Kirk gets extra credit for variety because I'm not aware of Bond ever making it with a robot or alien.
Agent23
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Kirk's escapades cover only 3 years in universe, whileas Bond womanized for 60+ years.
Connery's Bond lasted, what, decades?
Anyways, Austin Powers beats them both easily.
Agent23
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With a lot of travel and time skips, with the 1-2 hours being snapshots from something that took weeks.
Golden Eye IIRC had a year long time skip at least.
I'd say he did one big operation per year.
Agent23
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So, yeah, in Bond's 60 year career there have been 24 official, cinematic Bond girls, that means 0.4 Bond girls per year.
Whileas Kirk, with his 3 year mission had 0.66 cases of sexual intimacy alone.
Kirk wins by the numbers. 😂
Whileas Kirk, with his 3 year mission had 0.66 cases of sexual intimacy alone.
Kirk wins by the numbers.
😂
There's been way more then 24 Sexual liaisons in the Bond movies. He usually bangs two or three ladies in a fair number of the films.
Well lets see, all of the Connery Bond Girls:
1. Honey Rider (Dr. No): Honey was Riding
2. Sylvia Trench (Dr. No/From Russia With Love): Trench Filled
3. Miss Taro (Dr. No): Definitely Banged
4. Tatiana Romanova (From Russia With Love): Definitely From Russia, Definitely Filled with Love
5. Vida & Zora (From Russian With Love): TWO CHICKS AT ONCE
6. Pussy Galore (Goldfinger): Got all that Pussy... Galore.
7. Jill Masterson (Goldfinger): Got a Quick Banging In Before She Died
8. Bonita (Goldfinger): Probable Banging Prior to Movie
9. Dink (Goldfinger): Pausible Conquest. Definitely Spankworthy.
10. Domino Derval (Thunderball): Came In Her Like Thunderball
11. Fiona Volpe (Thunderball): See Above
12. Patrica Fearing (Thunderball): Offered To Do Anything To Keep Bond Silent. Silence was Vigorously Earned.
13. La Porte (Thunderball): Probable Banging Offscreen.
14. Kissy Suzuki (You Only Live Twice): Undoubtedly Dived in Deep on that Ama Diver
15. Aki (You Only Live Twice): Very Much Enjoyed Serving Under Bond
16. Ling (You Only Live Twice): Highly Probable Banging
17. Helga Brandt (You Only Live Twice): Number 11 Got All of Bonds Numbers
18. Tiffany Case (Diamonds Are Forever): Definitely Banged
So that's 15 Lovely Ladies Almost Certainly Wooed during or directly after the movie and four highly probables.
I don't know. Rubber Forehead, Green Body Paint Aliens are all nice I guess but I'm not sure they can match the diversity of seducing numerous spies and foreign agents, Japanese Ninja Divers and a threesome with two Gypsy warrior women.
Agent23
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I get my stuff from the list of Bond girls from IMDB, where did you get yours from, Dogeboy?
15 women in a 21 year interval.
So, that would be 0.7 per year.
Meanwhile, if we add up near certain and certain for kirk we get a whopping 2.3 waminz per year.
Kirk wins again.
Agent23
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All 7 movies where Sean Connery played James Bond - IMDb
All 7 movies where Sean Connery played James Bond
www.imdb.com
Never Say Never Again, last Bond movie with Connery, 1983
21 years.
Connery aged really gracefully.
And the surrounding technology changes, too.
The actual movies.
It's not. It's a nine year period at worst but there was a George Lazenby movie On His Majesty's Service in between You Only Live Twice and Diamonds Are Forever. If that's included then there are several more women to add, including a proper marriage.
If we exclude it, then we could exclude Diamonds Are Forever if we're going with the retarded per annum analysis. In which case it's nice seventeen Women in five years since Connery only banged one Woman in the last movie.
Or perhaps 1962-67, 1971 as opposed to something retarded like 1962-1971 or even more ridiculous like 1962-1983.
All 7 movies where Sean Connery played James Bond - IMDb
All 7 movies where Sean Connery played James Bond
Dr. No, first ever bond movie with Connery, 1962.
Never Say Never Again, last Bond movie with Connery, 1983
Never Say Again isn't a canon movie and didn't count in my analysis. It wasn't an Eon production and essentially a remake/adaption of the 1964 film Thunderball. Casting further doubts on its veracity is that it also came out in the same year as Eon's Octopussy because it was meant to be their own reboot of the Bond movies in an entirely new film continuity.
In the main continuity Connery era Bonds refer to the movies produced by Eon starting with Dr. No to Diamonds Are Forever.
Adding Never Say Never Again would be about as legitimate as adding the time range from the Original Series to Star Trek Generations as a minimum and curiously not including any of the women from the Star Trek films as you did with Never Say Never Again.
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I phrased that extremely poorly so your point. I should have said in-universe time, it did indeed last 21 years in real time but is there any reason to think the movies map directly to real life with no timeskips, no periods that are glossed over, nothing accelerated because they want to show the same scene from two perspectives at once?Dr. No, first ever bond movie with Connery, 1962.All 7 movies where Sean Connery played James Bond - IMDb
All 7 movies where Sean Connery played James Bond
Never Say Never Again, last Bond movie with Connery, 1983
21 years.
Connery aged really gracefully.
And the surrounding technology changes, too.
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I think James Bond wins - hands down - due to my wife's opinion: "Kirk wanted to prove he was a ladies man. James Bond simply was."
Agent23
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Aside from us seeing technology and dress and architecture advancing?
The fact that the hare-brained schemes of the likes of SPECTRE probably take years to develop.
Volcano bases and gigantic submersible aircraft carriers and moon bases don't appear out of thin air.
There are no gigantic submersible aircraft carriers or moon bases in Connery-era Bond.
SPECTRE is a large organization. There's a reason why there's like a whole stereotypical room of them gathered around the table and that their expressed purpose during the Connery era is to seize control of the World after fomenting a Hot War between the Soviet Union and United States of America and their respective blocs.
As for years to construct villainous bases or vehicle, Dr. Julius No had the small base in the Caribbean in the first movie in 1962. But there was no massive base in the second film, and the third film had someone independent of SPECTRE who was ultra rich and working with Red China but I don't think there was any elaborate, supervillainous infrastructure that had to be purpose built in that film either. Thunderball likewise also had no elaborate supervillainous infrastructure. There was Largo's cool Yacht and that's about it.
You Only Live Twice did have a volcano space base and it was cool but it was also the master plan of Ernest Blofeld himself and several of his underlings, including a large Japanese zaibatsu. So that probably took a significant amount of time, but the film was also released five years after Dr. No if we're going by your metrics.
And just as an aside, there never was a Moon Base in any of the Bond films. There was a space station in Moonraker which starred Roger Moore, not Sean Connery as James Bond and was released in 1979. The Space Station also wasn't an SPECTRE endeavor, but one by Drax Industries, whoich was a highly successful private spaceflight corporation.
I have no idea what you are referencing in regard to "giant submersible aircraft carriers." There was an underwater base which again, was independent of SPECTRE and constructed by yet another crazy supervillain industrialist, Karl Stromberg IIRC (Moonraker was basically a rehashing of the same story two years later and maybe to capitalize on all of the Star Wars popularity).
As I'm sure you are already aware, the SPECTRE Organization and Ernest Blofeld couldn't be used by Eon Film Productions in the mainstream Bond continuity due to a legal copyright issue over the novel Thunderball by Ian Fleming, which is what resulted in the attempted reboot of a totally different Bond film continuity with the 1983 film Never Say Never Again which while it stars Sean Connery as James Bond, isn't typically considered part of the Connery-era Bond... except maybe with an asterisk since it's basically a remake/reboot of the 1964 film Thunderball which also starred James Bond and if both films existed in the exact same continuity, many issues would arise. This legal issue over the rights to SPECTRE and Ernest Blofeld is why neither appeared for many decades in Bond film continuity until the 2015 film SPECTRE.
However, important to note just for completionist sake, the only significant supervillainous infrastructure in Never Say Never Again is once again... a fancy yacht which honestly, doesn't even seem as fancy as the one in Thunderball that preceded it by twenty years. The new yacht had a computer room (big whoop) while the old yacht broke apart into a superfast catamaran and battle boat (complete with machine guns and 40mm cannons).
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Agent23
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And if you watch the scene where SPECTER is introduced you will notice that they have multiple smaller operations going on constantly, but the big projects that usually lead to Bond mucking things up probably take a lot more time and planning to set up.There are no gigantic submersible aircraft carriers or moon bases in Connery-era Bond.
SPECTRE is a large organization. There's a reason why there's like a whole stereotypical room of them gathered around the table and that their expressed purpose during the Connery era is to seize control of the World after fomenting a Hot War between the Soviet Union and United States of America and their respective blocs.
As for years to construct villainous bases or vehicle, Dr. Julius No had the small base in the Caribbean in the first movie in 1962. But there was no massive base in the second film, and the third film had someone independent of SPECTRE who was ultra rich and working with Red China but I don't think there was any elaborate, supervillainous infrastructure that had to be purpose built in that film either. Thunderball likewise also had no elaborate supervillainous infrastructure. There was Largo's cool Yacht and that's about it.
You Only Live Twice did have a volcano space base and it was cool but it was also the master plan of Ernest Blofeld himself and several of his underlings, including a large Japanese zaibatsu. So that probably took a significant amount of time, but the film was also released five years after Dr. No if we're going by your metrics.
And just as an aside, there never was a Moon Base in any of the Bond films. There was a space station in Moonraker which starred Roger Moore, not Sean Connery as James Bond and was released in 1979. The Space Station also wasn't an SPECTRE endeavor, but one by Drax Industries, whoich was a highly successful private spaceflight corporation.
I have no idea what you are referencing in regard to "giant submersible aircraft carriers." There was an underwater base which again, was independent of SPECTRE and constructed by yet another crazy supervillain industrialist, Karl Stromberg IIRC (Moonraker was basically a rehashing of the same story two years later and maybe to capitalize on all of the Star Wars popularity).
As I'm sure you are already aware, the SPECTRE Organization and Ernest Blofeld couldn't be used by Eon Film Productions in the mainstream Bond continuity due to a legal copyright issue over the novel Thunderball by Ian Fleming, which is what resulted in the attempted reboot of a totally different Bond film continuity with the 1983 film Never Say Never Again which while it stars Sean Connery as James Bond, isn't typically considered part of the Connery-era Bond... except maybe with an asterisk since it's basically a remake/reboot of the 1964 film Thunderball which also starred James Bond and if both films existed in the exact same continuity, many issues would arise. This legal issue over the rights to SPECTRE and Ernest Blofeld is why neither appeared for many decades in Bond film continuity until the 2015 film SPECTRE.
However, important to note just for completionist sake, the only significant supervillainous infrastructure in Never Say Never Again is once again... a fancy yacht which honestly, doesn't even seem as fancy as the one in Thunderball that preceded it by twenty years. The new yacht had a computer room (big whoop) while the old yacht broke apart into a superfast catamaran and battle boat (complete with machine guns and 40mm cannons).
Also, I see no reason why we should not use the chronological time out of universe as different than in universe, there are no date indicators in the movies and we see how the world in the movies moves at the same pace as the world outside of them.
So, 21 years.
Yes I'm aware that SPECTRE has multiple operations going on, that's why I referenced it was a large organization in the very post you quoted.
Also SPECTRE was actually first mentioned in Dr. No since Dr. Julius No was obviously a member of theirs but first introduced more... directly or openly in From Russia With Love but it wasn't until Thunderball, the fourth movie, where the famous SPECTRE "Introduction" you are potentially referencing actually occurred.
There's no "but" since my response wasn't directed towards actual planning but your assertion that it takes years for the infrastructure and vehicles to be constructed to indicate a passage of time. Since two of your three examples (a Moon Base and Giant Submersible) were completely wrong the only example you brought forth actually only occurred in the fifth Bond film, a full five years after Dr. No if we go chronologically which IMHO isn't that big a deal.
More directly to your point, the "big projects" as you say might've had long lead up times but there's no reason to assume that the projects were so exorbitant or prohibitive reinforce some argument in support of chronological time. From Russia With Love actually occurred in a short period of time, with very little leadup. They had a patsy who contacted the British because SPECTRE had infiltrated SMERSH in order to get the British to capture the MacGuffin and then steal it from them. Unless we're arguing the infiltration only took place from 1962-62 then it has no bearing on the chronological argument.
Likewise in Thunderball, to argue it required more lead time and planning is also offbase. As you undoubtedly know as you stated you've seen the SPECTRE meeting in question, you'd know by the time of the briefing in Thunderball that Emilio Largo had been working on the project for a while which involved infiltrating NATO and gaining access to a British Vulcan Bomber which required a lot of training and even plastic surgery but... while it required a lot of preptime it also wouldn't of been taxing on resources since it basically focused on one infiltrator. Also keep in mind... that this operation occurred immediately after another SPECTRE Agent, after killing two British Agents, faked his funeral and then was hunted down and eliminated by James Bond in the opener, which casts more doubt onto your assertion that "James Bond engages in only one operation a year." The idea that James Bond engages in only one "big" operation a year simply isn't supported by any evidence, especially since he had just came off a mission prior to Dr. No as well. In the prologue to Goldfinger he had also prevented a revolution in Mexico by eliminated a Drug Cartel Lord.
There's also the important point that there was six months that took place between Dr. No and From Russia With Love... instead of the assumed year that you are basing off of the release date of the film. So right there is a canon discrepancy.
Again, you are being rather obtuse. There is no twenty one year difference. As stated repeatedly in this thread... and as you just quoted so I'm assuming you had read, the 1983 film Never Say Never Again, took place independently of the Sean Connery continuity and was actually a very strong remake of Thunderball which was released in 1964.
However, if we are to utilize the chronological time, I guess it's only fair to point out that Star Trek: The Original Series took place in 1966 with its inaugural season, while James T. Kirk's last appearance was in Star Trek: Generations, which was released in 1994. So using a chronological time like we are doing with Bond for no good reason, would be a period of twenty eight years.
Meanwhile for Sean Connery's Bond, excluding the non-canon remake of Thunderball which is Never Say Never Again, you would only get nine years at the most using your metric. However it would likely be less due to the 1969 George Lazenby Bond film released between the 1967 release of You Only Live Twice and the 1971 film Diamonds Are Forever thus it would be the five years between Dr. No and You Only Live Twice, with an additional year in regards to Diamonds Are Forever, so six years.
Of course, you can also argue that Star Trek does have a canon timeline, which I'm sympathetic towards but the period of time that passed in Star Trek is interesting since that would mean a timeline between 2265 when Kirk first helmed the Enterprise to 2294 and the events that led to Star Trek Generations which would actually be less favorable because the amount of time would then be twenty nine years.
So by the chronological metric for Bond, we have either six years or nine years and eighteen conquests (we'll use eighteen since you are using probables for Kirk and curiously not offering the same courtesy for Bond for some inexplicable reason) we get the ratio of:
2 to 3 per annum.
EVEN if we permit the twenty one years between Dr. No and Never Say Never Again even though the latter is obviously non-canon, we get a ratio for Bond of:
.857 per annum!
And this isn't even including the women Bond banged in Never Say Never Again because they've been excluded mention for some reason? Just FYI Bond did bang... IIRC... four women in Never Say Never Again including Fatima Blush (whose an expy for a Thunderball character), Nurse Patrice Fearing (again literally the same character from Thunderball but lets keep assuming its the same timeline lol) and Kim Basinger. Oh... and a lady he romanced in the Bahamas that fished him out of the water. So actually it'd be 22 romances and thus pushing Connery's per annum romances to...
1.047 per annum!
For Kirk Sadly for the chronological number based on release date of 28 years with seven partners we get...
.25 per annum.
But using in-universe time we have...
.241 per annum which is sadly even worse.
So Bond is roughly four to twelve times more successful using the metrics proposed and provided in this thread.
Agent23
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First off, are you familiar with the concept of hyperbola?Yes I'm aware that SPECTRE has multiple operations going on, that's why I referenced it was a large organization in the very post you quoted.
Also SPECTRE was actually first mentioned in Dr. No since Dr. Julius No was obviously a member of theirs but first introduced more... directly or openly in From Russia With Love but it wasn't until Thunderball, the fourth movie, where the famous SPECTRE "Introduction" you are potentially referencing actually occurred.
There's no "but" since my response wasn't directed towards actual planning but your assertion that it takes years for the infrastructure and vehicles to be constructed to indicate a passage of time. Since two of your three examples (a Moon Base and Giant Submersible) were completely wrong the only example you brought forth actually only occurred in the fifth Bond film, a full five years after Dr. No if we go chronologically which IMHO isn't that big a deal.
More directly to your point, the "big projects" as you say might've had long lead up times but there's no reason to assume that the projects were so exorbitant or prohibitive reinforce some argument in support of chronological time. From Russia With Love actually occurred in a short period of time, with very little leadup. They had a patsy who contacted the British because SPECTRE had infiltrated SMERSH in order to get the British to capture the MacGuffin and then steal it from them. Unless we're arguing the infiltration only took place from 1962-62 then it has no bearing on the chronological argument.
Likewise in Thunderball, to argue it required more lead time and planning is also offbase. As you undoubtedly know as you stated you've seen the SPECTRE meeting in question, you'd know by the time of the briefing in Thunderball that Emilio Largo had been working on the project for a while which involved infiltrating NATO and gaining access to a British Vulcan Bomber which required a lot of training and even plastic surgery but... while it required a lot of preptime it also wouldn't of been taxing on resources since it basically focused on one infiltrator. Also keep in mind... that this operation occurred immediately after another SPECTRE Agent, after killing two British Agents, faked his funeral and then was hunted down and eliminated by James Bond in the opener, which casts more doubt onto your assertion that "James Bond engages in only one operation a year." The idea that James Bond engages in only one "big" operation a year simply isn't supported by any evidence, especially since he had just came off a mission prior to Dr. No as well. In the prologue to Goldfinger he had also prevented a revolution in Mexico by eliminated a Drug Cartel Lord.
There's also the important point that there was six months that took place between Dr. No and From Russia With Love... instead of the assumed year that you are basing off of the release date of the film. So right there is a canon discrepancy.
Again, you are being rather obtuse. There is no twenty one year difference. As stated repeatedly in this thread... and as you just quoted so I'm assuming you had read, the 1983 film Never Say Never Again, took place independently of the Sean Connery continuity and was actually a very strong remake of Thunderball which was released in 1964.
However, if we are to utilize the chronological time, I guess it's only fair to point out that Star Trek: The Original Series took place in 1966 with its inaugural season, while James T. Kirk's last appearance was in Star Trek: Generations, which was released in 1994. So using a chronological time like we are doing with Bond for no good reason, would be a period of twenty eight years.
Meanwhile for Sean Connery's Bond, excluding the non-canon remake of Thunderball which is Never Say Never Again, you would only get nine years at the most using your metric. However it would likely be less due to the 1969 George Lazenby Bond film released between the 1967 release of You Only Live Twice and the 1971 film Diamonds Are Forever thus it would be the five years between Dr. No and You Only Live Twice, with an additional year in regards to Diamonds Are Forever, so six years.
Of course, you can also argue that Star Trek does have a canon timeline, which I'm sympathetic towards but the period of time that passed in Star Trek is interesting since that would mean a timeline between 2265 when Kirk first helmed the Enterprise to 2294 and the events that led to Star Trek Generations which would actually be less favorable because the amount of time would then be twenty nine years.
So by the chronological metric for Bond, we have either six years or nine years and eighteen conquests (we'll use eighteen since you are using probables for Kirk and curiously not offering the same courtesy for Bond for some inexplicable reason) we get the ratio of:
2 to 3 per annum.
EVEN if we permit the twenty one years between Dr. No and Never Say Never Again even though the latter is obviously non-canon, we get a ratio for Bond of:
.857 per annum!
And this isn't even including the women Bond banged in Never Say Never Again because they've been excluded mention for some reason? Just FYI Bond did bang... IIRC... four women in Never Say Never Again including Fatima Blush (whose an expy for a Thunderball character), Nurse Patrice Fearing (again literally the same character from Thunderball but lets keep assuming its the same timeline lol) and Kim Basinger. Oh... and a lady he romanced in the Bahamas that fished him out of the water. So actually it'd be 22 romances and thus pushing Connery's per annum romances to...
1.047 per annum!
For Kirk Sadly for the chronological number based on release date of 28 years with seven partners we get...
.25 per annum.
But using in-universe time we have...
.241 per annum which is sadly even worse.
So Bond is roughly four to twelve times more successful using the metrics proposed and provided in this thread.
The big plots that SPECTER runs might have not had a moon base directly, but usually the type of high risk high payout plot they have running that drags in Bond is something way more complex than the assassination of some random french double agent or the smuggling of heroin.
Those are the types of plot you'd need time and resources to organize, like, oh, waiting for the opportunity to infiltrate people in the flight crew of a specific bomber carrying nukes, then getting the logistics to salvage said nukes, add travel time and the type of big project they had going in Thunderball for example probably takes years to organize and execute.
I am sticking to the TOS tv show's 3 year mission and Shatner Kirk.
As to bond, well, don't care so much since the movies with Connery and Brosnan were the only Bond movies i paid much attention to.
Also, wikipedia has a list of the original bond girls:
| Title (publication date) | Bond girl |
|---|---|
| Casino Royale (1953) | Vesper Lynd |
| Live and Let Die (1954) | Simone "Solitaire" Latrelle |
| Moonraker (1955) | Gala Brand |
| Diamonds Are Forever (1956) | Tiffany Case |
| From Russia, with Love (1957) | Corporal Tatiana Romanova |
| Dr. No (1958) | Honeychile Rider |
| Goldfinger (1959) |
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| "From a View to a Kill" (1960) | Mary Ann Russell |
| "For Your Eyes Only" (1960) | Judy Havelock |
| "Quantum of Solace" (1960) | — |
| "Risico" (1960) | Lisl Baum |
| "The Hildebrand Rarity" (1960) | Liz Krest |
| Thunderball (1961) |
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| The Spy Who Loved Me (1962) | Vivienne Michel |
| On Her Majesty's Secret Service (1963) |
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| You Only Live Twice (1964) |
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| The Man with the Golden Gun (1965, posthumously) | Mary Goodnight |
| "The Living Daylights" (1966, posth.) | Trigger |
| "The Property of a Lady" (1966, posth.) | Maria Freudenstein |
| "Octopussy" (1966, posth.) | — |
| "007 in New York" (1966, posth.) | Solange |
As per the IF novels.
We have a list of 25 women for a period of 13 years.
I think this is as canonical as it will get.
So, for that time, Bond nets 1.9 women per year, and I doubt he got to shag all of them, so at least a few will be in the intermediate category.
So with the above we have Kirk's ratio at 5.0 per year when you add indeterminate, near-certain and certain.
It wasn't a random Double Agent, it was a Colonel in the French Clandestine Services who had killed two British Agents prior and was one of SPECTRE's top agents. And it wasn't "random smuggling of heroin" it was a Drug Cartel that was fomenting a Revolution in Mexico. You know... an operational equivalent to say the plots of literally both Timothy Dalton movies later on. Or You Only Live Twice with Roger Moore. Downplay it all you want, it is upon you to prove your assertion that James Bond only engages in ONE major operation a year when that's been shown to be not the case repeatedly on film. I suppose you consider either Dr. No or From Russia With Love not a major operation since they took part less then a year apart as well?
Yes and SPECTRE wouldn't be prohibited by that. They're repeatedly illustrated and portrayed as every bit equal to their Soviet and American power blocs when it comes to clandestine operations. The main plot in Thunderball only required the infiltration of one agent into the Vulcan Bomber Crew. Everything else you stated isn't prohibitively expensive and I already pointed out in earlier posts in this very thread.
As you stated, I see no reason to arbitrarily limit the focus to the TOS three year mission, especially after you've consistently argued that non-canon James Bond films should be included repeatedly, ignored Bond in universe timelines, want to only include IMDB lists of Bond Girls or Wikipedia lists of Ian Fleming novel Bond Girls and made every other attempt to inflate the numbers. I am merely using the metrics you brought forth for James Bond and applying it to William Shatner's Kirk.
If you find that to be unfair, then simply be consistent with your metrics for both characters. 🤷♀️
Are we talking only about Sean Connery's Bond films in the Eon Film Continuity, which if so, is six to nine years dependent. If you want to throw in a bunch of stuff from the novels and remakes/reboots and the like, then I don't see any reason not to apply a far less stringent metric to William Shatner's James T. Kirk. So twenty eight to twenty nine years instead of three.
Wikipedia Isn't More Canon than the Films themselves. I literally laid out the fifteen (to eighteen) romances that Sean Connery James Bond had in his films. Feel free to DISPUTE what I literally saw on the films themselves but using lists from IMDB and Wikipedia and proclaiming these are all of Bond's Romantic conquests is simply farcical.
Furthermore the OP states Sean Connery Bond. Not the Ian Fleming novel James Bond. They are completely different continuities. You are being highly inconsistent in regards to what sources you are using for Bonds romances, referencing all of the Bond films, then the Sean Connery Bond films and using a list from IMDB and now posting up a list from Wikipedia showing the Ian Fleming Novel Bond Girls... which has a completely different chronology when it comes to release dates from the films.
Are we no longer disputing the chronology of the films now? We are doing to use the far more condensed novel releases... and reference them in regards to Sean Connery James Bond? You do realize that in over half of those Novels you referenced from Wikipedia that Sean Connery didn't even portray any of those James Bond characters in the film adaptions. Casino Royale wasn't adapted until 2006 by Daniel Craig (excluding a non-canonical film adaption in the fifties) and then Quantum of Solace was the immediate sequel to that, Live and Let Die, Moonraker, Octopussy, A View To A Kill, The Man With the Golden Gun, & For Your Eyes Only are all Roger Moore portraying James Bond. And of course The Living Daylights had Bond portrayed by Timothy Dalton and On Her Majesty's Secret Service had Bond portrayed by George Lazenby.
So what we have so far deduced...
Using Agent23's chronological metric for Bond, we have either six years or nine years. Six years if we include the time period between Dr. No (1962) and You Only Live Twice (1967) but adding the year that Connery's film Diamonds Are Forever (1971) was released. In between 1967 and 1971 George Lazenby starred as Bond in 1969's On Her Majesty's Secret Service. A more unfair metric IMHO would be a nine year one and count all the years between 1962's Dr. No release and 1971's Diamonds Are Forever. Regardless in that time we have eighteen conquests (we'll use eighteen since you are using probables for Kirk and curiously not offering the same courtesy for Bond for some inexplicable reason) we get the ratio of:
2 to 3 per annum.
EVEN if we permit the twenty one years between Dr. No and Never Say Never Again even though the latter is obviously non-canon, we get a ratio for Bond of:
.857 per annum!
And this isn't even including the women Bond banged in Never Say Never Again because they've been excluded mention for some reason? Just FYI Bond did bang... IIRC... four women in Never Say Never Again including Fatima Blush (whose an expy for a Thunderball character), Nurse Patrice Fearing (again literally the same character from Thunderball but lets keep assuming its the same timeline lol) and Kim Basinger. Oh... and a lady he romanced in the Bahamas that fished him out of the water. So actually it'd be 22 romances and thus pushing Connery's per annum romances to...
1.047 per annum!
If we use the Ian Fleming Novel Romances... based off a list Agent23 found on Wikipedia we get...
1.9 per annum.
For Kirk Sadly for the chronological number based on release date of 28 years with seven partners we get...
.25 per annum.
But using in-universe time we have...
.241 per annum which is sadly even worse.
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